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Postby Frank Dux on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:07 am

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Kobe on his trash talk at the line with Wallace: "It's pretty funny. I tried to make him make a contribution to my foundation."


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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Maluco Beleza on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:18 am

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XXIV wrote:A post I came across on another board, really does make you appreciate Kobe Bryant even more:

kblo247 wrote:
Hakeem, Magic, Michael, Bill, Larry, Shaq, Tim, KG and so on. Kobe has outlasted them. He's played more minutes in the season and playoffs. He's been asked to be the main facilitator, scorer, and defender on his teams, unlike them because of roster ineptitude.

His peers at his position a decade ago were AI, T-Mac, Vince, Ray, Rip, Manu, and later on Wade yet most are out the league or greatly reduced role guys. Kobe however has had the longest prime of any wing player in history

Kobes longevity even if he retired tomorrow can only compare to Malone and Kareem, because statistically no perimeter player has ever had such an extended prime, some have had higher peaks, but not been 25-5-5 for a decade without their minutes protected or responsibilities greatly reduced. Fact is he's truly special, a pride to have in a Laker uni, whether you like him or not personally because you know he gives his all to the job even in the offseason and always has.


Kobe is like the Energizer bunny of NBA superstars, and yeah the only other guys that compare are Kareem and Malone.



dude we've know this for how long? kobe fans have know this forever. i knew back in 2004 he would last as long as he wanted. nobody believed me... its not that hard to tell if you watch him..

and yea i have a friend who told me once back then that wade would have a better career than kobe i laughed and seriously wanted to slap him... and he was a tmac fan and a kings fan now go figure he's a kobe and lakers fan.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Finwë on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:21 am

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If more of our players had that mentality we'd be unstoppable
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:23 am

He had a nice game considering the Nets played great D on him
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Finwë on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:30 am

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Pau on Kobe: "He gets all the hockey assists." Unfortunately he's the only one.

Noticed that. I LOVE that play where Kobe finds Pau top of the key after the P&R, it just leads to great results. Pau can take the FT line J, find a corner shooter (MWP), attack the rim, or if the D rotates to him he can lob it to Howard.
It was unstoppable last year (we called it KGB, Bynum instead of Howard) and we didn't run it nearly enough. It seems we're going to it more this year.
And when Nash comes back, that's one of the best passers/shooters in the game running the P&R attracting even more D, and that's Kobe mothereffing Bryant on one of the wings. UNSTOPPABLE.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby BDG on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:36 am

Best moment of the game was when Kobe bet 5 stacks with Wallace at the free throw line and then laughed at him with the game on the line. :man10:

Kobe's pockets just got a little fatter.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:45 am

this guys amazing
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby LakerFan1235 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:49 am

BDG wrote:Best moment of the game was when Kobe bet 5 stacks with Wallace at the free throw line and then laughed at him with the game on the line. :man10:

Kobe's pockets just got a little fatter.

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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:51 am

LOS ANGELES -- Gerald Wallace is rapidly becoming a cult hero amongst Nets fans, and here’s a cool example of why.

With the game on the line Tuesday night and Kobe Bryant at the charity stripe, Wallace began jawing with the Laker great.

What was Wallace talking about?

“I was trying to get him to close his eyes to shoot.”

Now remember, Michael Jordan is famous for hitting a free throw with his eyes closed, and we all know how much Bryant wants to be like Mike. So maybe there was a chance Bryant would play along.

Turns out he would’ve – for a steep price.

“I had to make a big bet,” Wallace said. “So I told him just shoot the free throws.”

There’s no telling what this “big bet” involved, whether it was thousands of dollars, millions, maybe even a car. But Wallace was obviously willing to pay up if it scared him off.


http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/nets/2012/11/gerald-wallace-wanted-kobe-to-shoot-with-his-eyes-closed

would have been hilarious ... I think Kobe said " put 500 grand on it" at one point ... makes sense
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby BDG on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:10 am

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BDG wrote:Best moment of the game was when Kobe bet 5 stacks with Wallace at the free throw line and then laughed at him with the game on the line. :man10:

Kobe's pockets just got a little fatter.

can u lip read?
I'm not bad at it.

Kobe said something along the lines of "How much you wanna bet" and then said "OK put 5 on it" (I assume he was talking in the thousand dollar amount)

I don't remember it verbatim, but the Time Warner feed had a clear shot of Kobe's face when he was talking to Wallace.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby BDG on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:22 am

Thank you Cachooka.

In order of Kobe's phrases, I can make out ...

"I'm 90 percent ... (???)"

"I might make these b****" (I think that's what he says here)

"How much you put on it?" (referencing the bet)

"How much you put?"

"You put 5 grand."

Then he says one more short phrase, and shake his head at Wallace, laughing at him. I'm positive of everything here -- pretty apparent if you can read his lips.

He wasn't saying 500 grand like some people are saying -- he said 5 if you watch that clip ... realistic bet for those two guys to make given their salaries. :man1:
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Scnottaken on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:43 am

BDG wrote:Thank you Cachooka.

In order of Kobe's phrases, I can make out ...

"I'm 90 percent ... (???)"

"I might make these b****" (I think that's what he says here)

"How much you put on it?" (referencing the bet)

"How much you put?"

"You put 5 grand."

Then he says one more short phrase, and shake his head at Wallace, laughing at him. I'm positive of everything here -- pretty apparent if you can read his lips.

He wasn't saying 500 grand like some people are saying -- he said 5 if you watch that clip ... realistic bet for those two guys to make given their salaries. :man1:

Watch it just be 5 bucks.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Ken_rosseneri on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:13 am

he said 500 grand
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Chopper on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:07 am

given the league's history with Kobe, they will fine him $1M for betting on a basketball game he was involved in...
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Tobias Funke on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:29 am

IMO He's been both our best player at the 2 obviously, but also at the PG spot as well, even in those games with Nash. Ofcourse I think Brown had alot to do with that, even though he gave Nash the green light to deviate, his "nagging" coaching style probably made Nash feel uncomfortable doing so alot of the times.

Compare that to when Kobe ran the offense with Nash out of the game. Still lots of miscues and turnovers, but his decision making as far as flow and calling plays was definitely more indicative of what MB's offense would have eventually looked like, probably because he didn't really give a crap what Brown said.

Ofcourse this will change once Nash returns since this is pretty much his offense as much as MDA's at this point, but Kobe's play has definitely made it easier to have Nash out injured.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Finwë on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:34 am

My earlier post was about this very play that Dave McMenamin is breaking down in this column:

Three men, one play, a glimpse at major potential
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To hear Kobe Bryant break down the most important play in the Los Angeles Lakers' 95-90 win over the Brooklyn Nets on Tuesday was akin to hearing a forensic detective combing his way through a crime scene and describing how each bit of evidence fit together to illustrate what went down.

First, some context. The Lakers led by three heading into the fourth quarter and then went horridly cold, starting off the final period by going nearly eight minutes without a field goal and seeing their three-point lead turn into a six-point deficit thanks to missed shots, turnovers and poor free throw shooting.

Metta World Peace finally made the take-the-lid-off-the-rim basket -- a 3-pointer from the left corner -- to cut Brooklyn's lead to two points with 4:39 remaining.

And that set up the play that changed the game.

"It’s kind of a domino effect," Bryant said. "To start the game, they went to a drop defense and I stepped up and had 11 points in the first quarter just from pulling up and shooting. After that, they had to change their coverage a little bit and went more to showing up a little higher on the screen-roll and I was able to hit Pau and he hit jump shots. So now, they have to pre-rotate and now I hit Pau and now Pau’s hitting Dwight slipping to the rim or hitting Metta in the corner for a 3.

"So it’s kind of a domino effect."

Bryant drove right past Gerald Wallace, but was forced to pick up his dribble when Brook Lopez stepped up to cut him off just below the foul line.

In true Bryant form, he already left his feet when Lopez collapsed on him, but was able to turn around in midair and pass it out to Pau Gasol who came to the ball to catch it at the top of the key.
(Sidenote: Bryant leaving his feet before he passes is easily the most frustrating part of his game to see over and over again. For being as fundamentally strong as he is, he chooses to break this cardinal rule of basketball way too much.)

Bryant then came back out to the wing to get it back from Gasol and positioned his body in a way -- shoulders square to the rim with his feet spread apart enough to give him a good base -- that Wallace and Lopez both closed out on him, thinking he was going to shoot. Rather than shoot it, Bryant flipped a pass over Wallace's head to Gasol who was cutting towards the free throw line.

When Kris Humphries saw Gasol coming down the lane with the ball in his hands, he left Dwight Howard who he was checking on the baseline to cut off the Spaniard.

Then Gasol, seeing that Howard was as open as the day is long, immediately threw a lob pass that Howard caught and threw down for an alley-oop dunk.


That made it a tied game, 86-86, with 3:05 remaining. The Lakers made the dominoes fall and never looked back.

"It was a good, good play," Gasol said. "Kind of a double drag and then they jumped Kobe, because obviously he’s a great player and then I was able to get that pocket pass. I made the intention to go to the rim and Dwight was wide open. I always try to find him every time when I’m rolling there, unless they back off a lot from me and then I have to get the shot up, which is also a good choice."

As much as the play worked because Bryant shot pull-up jump shots in the first quarter to get the Nets to change their defense to pressure the ball, it also worked because Gasol kept shooting the ball from the foul line extended all night when he was open. Even after he missed a couple in a row, he didn't defer when he got an open look from there. If Gasol had shown a reluctance to shoot the ball in that position, maybe Humphries doesn't close out on him and stays home with Howard and then there's no lob portion of the play to finish it off.

"They mostly come out of Kobe’s pick-and-rolls," Gasol said of his team-high seven assists. "He gets all the hockey assists on my assists so he’s the one initiating the action. They have to make a decision as far as how much they want to commit to Kobe and commit to the roll of Dwight and then I make the next decision, which is most of the time hitting the opposite wing for the open jumper or hitting Dwight if I see that he has an opportunity to score."

(For the record, we had to ask Bryant what he thought of adding the hockey assist as an official statistic -- holler, HoopIdea -- and he was non committal about the possibility. "It's really just if they want to add it, they'll add it," Bryant said. "For us players, it really doesn't change the game except for statistically we'll probably get a little more assists.")

Howard had the least to do with the play out of the three guys involved. He really didn't have to think, just observe what was playing out in front of him and use his tremendous athleticism to punctuate the chain of events with a slam dunk. But that was part of the beauty of watching he and Bryant and Gasol come together to make the play happen. Bryant did the skill work by shifting the defense into a compromised position, Gasol did the thinking work by assessing the skewed D that Bryant had created and then deciding the best possible avenue to score and Howard did the physical work by doing what he does best and leaping toward the hoop.

"It’s a great play for us because you got to pick your poison," Howard told ESPNLosAngeles.com. "Sometimes they drop back on Kobe, he hits the jump shot. They come up, he passes the ball to Pau. If my man leaves me then I have a dunk. If my man stays home, Pau got the jump shot. So, we just got to slow the ball down and make the defense pay for making mistakes.

"It just shows that we’re learning each others’ game, we’re getting into a good rhythm on the offensive end and we’re playing together. It will only get better, so we just got to keep going."

That's the ultimate motivation to want to play together, when you see that a teammate gets it and that you're both operating on an unspoken plane while you're playing that renders the defense inconsequential.

The Lakers are still an unfinished experiment, but the way their elements are naturally mixing already doesn't make you think it's all going to blow up in their face.

"There’s a lot of stuff you can’t guard," Mike D'Antoni said after his first game on the sidelines ended with a win. "Kobe in the angle pick-and-roll with Pau there and going 7-feet (Gasol) to 7-feet (Howard) and Pau can pass ...

"So, a lot of good stuff."
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:07 pm

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Apparently, Kobe Bryant turned an ankle during Tuesday's game and said that it bothered him all night.

"Had a hard time sleeping last night. Ankle still throbbing. Had to get up every few hours to ice it," he wrote on his Facebook page.

We should know more about his status for Wednesday's tilt with the Sacramento Kings as game-time nears, but Bryant notoriously plays through just about every injury, so he should be on the floor. However, Wednesday's game is the second of four contest in five days for the Los Angeles Lakers, so he'll have have a pretty heavy workload on the joint in the coming days.

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Going to need something from the bench. Looking at Meeks here and MDA to throw Meeks out there to give Kobe some rest.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby therealdeal on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:08 pm

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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby Legendary on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:59 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
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Apparently, Kobe Bryant turned an ankle during Tuesday's game and said that it bothered him all night.

"Had a hard time sleeping last night. Ankle still throbbing. Had to get up every few hours to ice it," he wrote on his Facebook page.

We should know more about his status for Wednesday's tilt with the Sacramento Kings as game-time nears, but Bryant notoriously plays through just about every injury, so he should be on the floor. However, Wednesday's game is the second of four contest in five days for the Los Angeles Lakers, so he'll have have a pretty heavy workload on the joint in the coming days.

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Did this happen on that play when he split the double-team and threw it off the backboard/rim to himself? He came down awkwardly and I thought he got hurt, but he showed no signs of pain afterwards.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:45 pm

^ That play should be available all day, and has been when Bynum was here.

Brown was too stupid to use it.

That three man pick and roll game is dangerous, with Nash, even more effective.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:06 pm

like i said...ALL DAY.

if it's that easy, then run it until the defense has to adjust. the adjustment would be leaving pau open. pau has to attack the basket instead of settling for jumpers. i know he can hit them, but he's better off attacking and drawing fouls.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby D.B. Cooper on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:09 pm

The bet was 5g's for Kobe's charity.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby KJ MonK on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:06 pm

^ any1 know what kobe and artest were yapping about when kobe was shooting clinching free throws in that game @ Houston a few yrs back? almost EXACT same scenario/score



also, why do radio announcers sit SO high? i was in a drive thru during those last 2 free throws so i had to listen to Ireland call the end, he mentioned nothing about Kobe and Wallace jawing at each other... could've been too far to see, but he made a big deal about what avery was saying to the ref so idk
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion: TripDub!

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:15 pm

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Pau on Kobe: "He gets all the hockey assists." Unfortunately he's the only one.

Noticed that. I LOVE that play where Kobe finds Pau top of the key after the P&R, it just leads to great results. Pau can take the FT line J, find a corner shooter (MWP), attack the rim, or if the D rotates to him he can lob it to Howard.
It was unstoppable last year (we called it KGB, Bynum instead of Howard) and we didn't run it nearly enough. It seems we're going to it more this year.
And when Nash comes back, that's one of the best passers/shooters in the game running the P&R attracting even more D, and that's Kobe mothereffing Bryant on one of the wings. UNSTOPPABLE.


Glad Pau brought it up, Kobe doesn't get enough credit for that play. He also loves to run it from the wing off a pick from Pau. They ran it last night and Dwight almost got that dunk but he was fouled. If Dwight can start dunking that ball consistently without bringing it down the play is simply unstoppable.
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