Kobe Bryant Discussion: Reason for Lakers downfall?

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Postby MadMax on Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:35 am

ZenMaster4President wrote:Ah... the last student of the game there is.

If there is one thing I want Kobe to teach Julius is this - be student of the game. How to improve and re-invent oneself.

Hopefully Kobe's perspicacious nature rubs off on him.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:35 am

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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:19 pm

Kobe should be happy with the effort..... It started with 24 million per for a fat broken down ball hog that doesn't know when to quit.....
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby TIME on Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:27 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Kobe should be happy with the effort..... It started with 24 million per for a fat broken down ball hog that doesn't know when to quit.....


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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby diehard on Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:59 pm

I was thinking of a less athletic Kobe, and the name Steve Smith came to mind. 4 years of Steve Smith type ball sounds good to me. Maybe even a post-injury Grant Hill/Steve Smith hybrid.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby diehard on Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:01 pm

By the way, can Kobe opt out of his contract next year (yeah, I probably missed that answer somewhere else)?
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby trodgers on Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:28 pm

Less athletic Kobe is probably going to be like MJ with the Wiz. He averaged 20-6-4, played in all 82 games at 39 in his final season. It's just crazy.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:35 pm

trodgers wrote:Less athletic Kobe is probably going to be like MJ with the Wiz. He averaged 20-6-4, played in all 82 games at 39 in his final season. It's just crazy.

Kobe this year is going to score more than 20 points, no doubt about it.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby therealdeal on Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:41 pm

@Waldorfsfinest then directly asks KD: “You couldn’t score 81 if you were jacking up shots like Kobe?” Durant responds with a series of Tweets, basically defending the degree of difficulty of scoring 81 in a game. Translation: This stuff isn’t easy. The NBA is hard. Give Kobe his props. Oklahoman - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.nj6QRUek.dpuf

Waldorfsfinest basically was denigrating Kobe and Durant stuck up for him. Durant is on record as a huge Kobe fan.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby trodgers on Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:50 pm

"Jacking up shots like Kobe."
46 FGA, 28 makes. That's 61%.

Durant shot 30+ times six times last year. He didn't shoot above 50% once. None of them were awful, but his two highest FGA games were 42% and 41%.

I'm glad Durant said what he did. He's amazing at what he does, and he is a better shooter than Kobe will ever be, but he can't score like Kobe and he recognizes that.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:35 pm

therealdeal wrote:
@Waldorfsfinest then directly asks KD: “You couldn’t score 81 if you were jacking up shots like Kobe?” Durant responds with a series of Tweets, basically defending the degree of difficulty of scoring 81 in a game. Translation: This stuff isn’t easy. The NBA is hard. Give Kobe his props. Oklahoman - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.nj6QRUek.dpuf

Waldorfsfinest basically was denigrating Kobe and Durant stuck up for him. Durant is on record as a huge Kobe fan.

good stuff. thanks for looking out KD
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:34 pm

trodgers wrote:"Jacking up shots like Kobe."
46 FGA, 28 makes. That's 61%.

Durant shot 30+ times six times last year. He didn't shoot above 50% once. None of them were awful, but his two highest FGA games were 42% and 41%.

I'm glad Durant said what he did. He's amazing at what he does, and he is a better shooter than Kobe will ever be, but he can't score like Kobe and he recognizes that.


what always kill me with these guys trying to dog Kobe for that game never say that the Lakers were getting beat cause no one on the Lakers could make a shot. Kobe basically took the game over and it was a close game until the very end. Im glad KD said what he said.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby jlkr on Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:42 pm

Not to be a downer or anti-Kobe, but I sure remember when Kobe shot 17 for 47 against the Celtics one year. Other games where he was 12 for 31 or 10 for 34, etc. But that's Kobe, he just shrugged those games off and kept coming back.

Anyway, strongly suggest y'all pray that Kobe isn't staying a year or two too long, that will be painful. He may be healthy, but this will of necessity be a different Kobe from before the injury, no two ways around that. Pop would definitely have no problem sitting Kobe down for entire games as he has done with his own trio of stars. Hope Scott takes on that mentality to preserve Kobe to the end of the season and possibly the playoffs.

At this point, I consider whatever we get from Kobe to be a gift. Treasure it, guys ... it won't be that long now.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby LAKEROC on Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:31 pm

Suppose Kobe didn't have that trade restriction(which is asinine to give a player, by the way). Could we get anything of value for the guy? While Love is 25-26, and just netted back to back #1 overall picks, is there anything of value we could have get for Kobe at this stage of his career? Is is possible, we could get a Dante Exum in return for Kobe, if Cleveland is getting Wiggins for Love?
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:36 pm

Quit trollin'.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby LAKEROC on Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:20 pm

I am asking a viable question. Whether you are incapable of eliciting even a truncated response, to that question, shows a fundamental lack of speculative cognition and understanding on your part. While you may speak with such vociferous certitude that Mr. Bryant has no chance of being traded from the Lakers organization, I believe the question warrants an adroit and equitable response.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:55 pm

However you want to fancily word it.....quit trolling. Effing impossibility for numerous reasons, most importantly it should NOT be done.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby therealdeal on Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:38 pm

Wow.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby Savory Griddles on Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:08 pm

LAKEROC wrote:I am asking a viable question. Whether you are incapable of eliciting even a truncated response, to that question, shows a fundamental lack of speculative cognition and understanding on your part. While you may speak with such vivacious certitude that Mr. Bryant has no chance of being traded from the Lakers organization, I believe the question warrants an adroit and equitable response.


Sweet. Looking forward to more LAKEROC posts now that he's discovered http://thesaurus.com.

By the way, a viable question is which brewery is better, Stone or Deschutes? Or maybe which Joker was better, Heath Ledger or Jack Nicholson? "Can we like ship 36 year old Laker legend Kobe Bryant to f---ing Salt Lake City, Utah for a highly touted rookie?" is not viable. It's about as viable as Janet Reno would be as a porn star.
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Postby thkthebest on Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:12 pm

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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby LAKEROC on Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:23 pm

You know, I always thought Janet Reno had nice eyes. :man12:
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Postby LTLakerFan on Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:38 pm

God that's a frightening thought! :man10:
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby Juronimo on Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:40 pm

Savory Griddles wrote:
LAKEROC wrote:I am asking a viable question. Whether you are incapable of eliciting even a truncated response, to that question, shows a fundamental lack of speculative cognition and understanding on your part. While you may speak with such vivacious certitude that Mr. Bryant has no chance of being traded from the Lakers organization, I believe the question warrants an adroit and equitable response.


Sweet. Looking forward to more LAKEROC posts now that he's discovered http://thesaurus.com.

By the way, a viable question is which brewery is better, Stone or Deschutes? Or maybe which Joker was better, Heath Ledger or Jack Nicholson? "Can we like ship 36 year old Laker legend Kobe Bryant to f---ing Salt Lake City, Utah for a highly touted rookie?" is not viable. It's about as viable as Janet Reno would be as a porn star.



Personally I like Anderson Valley and Full Sail, but between those 2, I like Deschutes. Their Pale Ale is quite good.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby Savory Griddles on Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:45 pm

Juronimo wrote:
Savory Griddles wrote:
LAKEROC wrote:I am asking a viable question. Whether you are incapable of eliciting even a truncated response, to that question, shows a fundamental lack of speculative cognition and understanding on your part. While you may speak with such vivacious certitude that Mr. Bryant has no chance of being traded from the Lakers organization, I believe the question warrants an adroit and equitable response.


Sweet. Looking forward to more LAKEROC posts now that he's discovered http://thesaurus.com.

By the way, a viable question is which brewery is better, Stone or Deschutes? Or maybe which Joker was better, Heath Ledger or Jack Nicholson? "Can we like ship 36 year old Laker legend Kobe Bryant to f---ing Salt Lake City, Utah for a highly touted rookie?" is not viable. It's about as viable as Janet Reno would be as a porn star.



Personally I like Anderson Valley and Full Sail, but between those 2, I like Deschutes. Their Pale Ale is quite good.


I gotta say between those two it's Stone. Their "Enjoy By" is my favorite beer of all time. But you're right Mirror Pond Pale Ale is awesome. Their Chainbreaker is pretty interesting as well. But this is not the Official Beer Thread from Open court, so I will end the beer talk. :man12:
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Happy with the FO effort (806)

Postby lukewaltonsdad on Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:17 pm

LAKEROC wrote:Suppose Kobe didn't have that trade restriction(which is asinine to give a player, by the way). Could we get anything of value for the guy? While Love is 25-26, and just netted back to back #1 overall picks, is there anything of value we could have get for Kobe at this stage of his career? Is is possible, we could get a Dante Exum in return for Kobe, if Cleveland is getting Wiggins for Love?


If you're looking for an answer to that question and somebody who will take the time without criticizing you, PM LetsGoLakers; I am most certain that he will give you a fair and and equitable response.
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