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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby Tobias Funke on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:41 pm

I think it goes back to what he said about not wanting to be a guy averaging 18ppg or something like that being the reason he plans (or planned) to retire sooner rather than later. I think thats really his way of saying he knows he cant average near 30ppg and be a top dog forever, and its probably tough for him to envision not being "that guy".

Probably why he joked about switching to PG since its a way to still possibly be quite effective even if he's not the first option. The only way he could justify diminished scoring figures would be if his primary job was no longer to be a scorer. I doubt he was serious at all though.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby Weezy on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:24 pm

Congrats to Kobe for passing Wilt, 4th all time scorer in history man that is amazing, we're watching a legend.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby borri on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:25 am

23 seconds of rest....really?
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:39 am

^^^^ Not the right time to play Dribble or Benjialldayeveryday
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby OX1947 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:43 am

If Kobe is to play 3 more years after next year, this team will have to be set up really well to win. Kobe first and foremost would have to take half of what he makes now. That's going to be tough from what I see. A 3 yr, 45 mil contract. Then, sign a super star PG with Dwight still here of course. I have no idea how it is going to pane out in a year. We will see.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby KB24 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:57 am

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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby Finwë on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:47 am

OX1947 wrote:If Kobe is to play 3 more years after next year, this team will have to be set up really well to win. Kobe first and foremost would have to take half of what he makes now. That's going to be tough from what I see. A 3 yr, 45 mil contract. Then, sign a super star PG with Dwight still here of course. I have no idea how it is going to pane out in a year. We will see.

I think he could realistically take less than that. If he plays, it's definitely not for the money. He's got plenty of that as it is..
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby trodgers on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:17 am

borri wrote:23 seconds of rest....really?

Apparently he didn't want to stiffen up. That rest was the final 23 seconds of the third Q, so it wasn't much extra downtime.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby gcclaker on Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:15 am

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borri wrote:23 seconds of rest....really?

Apparently he didn't want to stiffen up. That rest was the final 23 seconds of the third Q, so it wasn't much extra downtime.

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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby Vasashi17 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:36 am

Kobe to make announcement before 2013/14 training camp, to indicate if this upcoming season will be his last. :man6:

A season filled with turmoil and injury has taken its toll on Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant. So much so that it has him thinking about his future and how much longer he'll play.

After passing Wilt Chamberlain on Saturday night to move into fourth place on the NBA career scoring list, the 34-year-old Bryant said he'll make a decision before training camp starts next season whether 2013-14 will be the end of the storied career.

"I'll talk to my family and stuff and really see if I want to continue to sacrifice as much as I'm sacrificing right now," Bryant told NBA.com. "I'm putting my body through a lot to just try to get ready to play every single night. To do what I'm doing right now, it's not easy. I'll tell you, it's taken a lot of commitment."

Bryant, who began his career with the Lakers in 1996, is approaching the final year of a contract that will pay him $30.4 million in 2013-14.

"It's my decision. It's really about what I want to do, if I want to train and be psychotic with my training," he told NBA.com. "That's what it comes down to. It's really how I'm feeling physically."

Bryant's injuries this season include a sprained ankle and now a bone spur in his left foot. The Lakers also are struggling to make the playoffs during an injury-filled year that begain with a coaching change.
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby pound4pound1 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:43 am

i know that day is soon to come...i just dont want to think about it yet...we've been spoiled for 17 years


he's still playing and i ALREADY miss him...as weird as that is
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:27 pm

i hope he plays until nash contract is up. takes way less money so the lakers can sign more quality talent. maybe takes a lesser role on the team and does more facilitating but can always take over if need be. idk
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby Tobias Funke on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:32 pm

"I'll talk to my family and stuff and really see if I want to continue to sacrifice as much as I'm sacrificing right now," Bryant told NBA.com. "I'm putting my body through a lot to just try to get ready to play every single night. To do what I'm doing right now, it's not easy. I'll tell you, it's taken a lot of commitment."


I remember Jalen Rose saying basically the exact same thing in reference to Kobe and the few others like him who are still suiting up despite having put so many minutes in in their career. He said he has an insane amount of respect for them because he knows first hand the amount of additional time and prep that is needed just to get lose and limber enough to run with the youngsters in practice is substantial, let alone when it comes to getting ready for an actual NBA game.....and then to outperform the majority of your peers also, most of whom are younger and have far less mileage? Incredible.

Id be quite surprised if Kobe said he'll call it quits after next season. I think he loves the game too much and even if it doesn't right now, eventually playing an extra year or two in a reduced role will be more appealing than retirement.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: Bonespur 47 mins - 19/14/9 (603)

Postby DJ-RaZ-Q#24 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:23 pm

Vasashi17 wrote:Kobe to make announcement before 2013/14 training camp, to indicate if this upcoming season will be his last. :man6:

A season filled with turmoil and injury has taken its toll on Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant. So much so that it has him thinking about his future and how much longer he'll play.

After passing Wilt Chamberlain on Saturday night to move into fourth place on the NBA career scoring list, the 34-year-old Bryant said he'll make a decision before training camp starts next season whether 2013-14 will be the end of the storied career.

"I'll talk to my family and stuff and really see if I want to continue to sacrifice as much as I'm sacrificing right now," Bryant told NBA.com. "I'm putting my body through a lot to just try to get ready to play every single night. To do what I'm doing right now, it's not easy. I'll tell you, it's taken a lot of commitment."

Bryant, who began his career with the Lakers in 1996, is approaching the final year of a contract that will pay him $30.4 million in 2013-14.

"It's my decision. It's really about what I want to do, if I want to train and be psychotic with my training," he told NBA.com. "That's what it comes down to. It's really how I'm feeling physically."

Bryant's injuries this season include a sprained ankle and now a bone spur in his left foot. The Lakers also are struggling to make the playoffs during an injury-filled year that begain with a coaching change.



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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby dj vitus on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:48 pm

I think Kobe will stay a few more years... as long as we're trying to contend. He has shown he has fun winning even when he's mostly facilitating.

With Kobe at $10M, and then Nash and hopefully Dwight under contract through 2014, we'll have $20M of cap room, just enough for a max FA or two really good pieces.

If Kobe renounced his rights and took the mMLE instead, we'd have a whopping $30M to play around with. :man13:
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby Vasashi17 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:50 pm

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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:03 pm

i think if he wants to win his next contract will be way less money so they can pay dwight and some other good players to surround them with
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby SK8 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:48 pm

It's not about money, it's about his personal life and sacrifice he is making.
I absolutely understand him, it was a loooooong journey, man deserve rest BIG TIME.
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby karacha on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:57 pm

For some reason I think he will retire next summer.
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby Battle Tested20 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:10 pm

karacha wrote:For some reason I think he will retire next summer.


I really do too. Kobe's made it known that isn't no longer about making sure he has more points or statistical numbers than someone else. If his family, if his health, and if his will power to work hard is even a little deflated he'll call it a career.

Boy, would I love to be a fly on the wall that could hear when he has his talks with his family and with the Lakers organization about his impending future.
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:52 pm

The "decision" about retirement next year is posturing for changes and an extension IMHO.... Kobe wants another chip..... but if the past is any indication he isn't willing to adjust his salary to acquire the pieces to do it.... OTOH... if ownership had more money to spend we'd probably still chance another star rather than 3 to 4 role players that are sorely needed....

My guess is that the Lakers extend him in a manner that still pays him close to what he's making IF they can right this ship and get some real pieces this offseason....

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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby TIME on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:20 pm

Rooscooter wrote:The "decision" about retirement next year is posturing for changes and an extension IMHO.... Kobe wants another chip..... but if the past is any indication he isn't willing to adjust his salary to acquire the pieces to do it.... OTOH... if ownership had more money to spend we'd probably still chance another star rather than 3 to 4 role players that are sorely needed....

My guess is that the Lakers extend him in a manner that still pays him close to what he's making IF they can right this ship and get some real pieces this offseason....

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I tend to agree with your take. But he never used to talk about the cost of his commitment before, even when he was sending messages to management. I do think Kobe will stay a few more years if they make the changes he hopes they make, but if not I can see him ending it suddenly.
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby therealdeal on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:24 pm

This isn't a money grab. If he tried to force the Lakers right now to give him anything over 12 million dollars past next season, I'm sure they'd tell him to take a hike. No one is worth 30 million anymore, not even LeBron. At least from a basketball standpoint.
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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:39 pm

I honestly think he wanted to go out this year but the season didn't happen like we though it would. Remember he won another gold medal in London, he almost won another scoring title, vouched for another MVP season last year and this year but things just didn't go down like he thought it would. However I do think he wants to retire next season.

Kobe loves basketball if he could play in his grave he would, but I think personally from what I'm seeing, his body is like "Well that's all folks" Kobe knows his body better than us and I think this is the first time in his career where he feels his body may be getting the best of him. He's going to be 35, it's not like he a senior citizen so he may be invested in other things basketball related other than coaching. He still has his camp, and then he loves going overseas to China so he can be a ambassador.


It was so amazing watching him play, growing up the only girl and person in general in my family into sports, especially basketball. Kobe being the one player that really caught my eye up until now. So it will be super tear jerking for me when he retires but it's time.

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Re: Kobe Thread: Enjoy it while you can; 2013/14 could be it

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:21 pm

therealdeal wrote:This isn't a money grab. If he tried to force the Lakers right now to give him anything over 12 million dollars past next season, I'm sure they'd tell him to take a hike. No one is worth 30 million anymore, not even LeBron. At least from a basketball standpoint.

Lebron & Kobe are both worth 30 million, just not when there's other players on the team that send you over the lux tax. I'd take Kobe at 30 million & dumping Pau for a backup C who makes the minimum over forcing Kobe to take 12M or retire.
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