abeer3 wrote:coach needs to be replaced (new system) and players need to move (pau for better fitting pieces). until both are addressed, what we've seen so far is what we'll get.
i do think that a better coach would have this team over .500, though, warts and all.
Lakeshow24 wrote:Chillbongo wrote:Kobe at odds with the "system".
Kobe upset with MDA.
Kobe death stare coming?
Kobe upset at "the system" is code for BRING PHIL JACKSON BACK.
Ludachris wrote:Well, I'll admit, I was one of the few fans who actually thought D'Antoni would do well with this team. I just figured we would learn how to run the pick and roll effectively with him coaching and Nash running the point. Obviously that's not working well. We have nobody that can set a good pick, and then the guy who sets that half assed pick doesn't roll to the hoop, they roll to a random spot outside the key... I don't understand it.
What I really don't understand about how this offense is run is that nobody cuts to the basket, I mean almost ever, when Nash is dribbling around under the hoop. I'm always waiting for a cutter and it never happens. Everyone is just standing around. Hardly any back picks are being set. How does anyone expect to get open? Howard is pushing people around and getting called for it. When Howard is on the bench Pau STILL stays up at the free throw line setting picks and staying in that general area - even last night when Noah had 5 fouls! Pau should have been working on getting Noah's 6th foul when Howard sat down, didn't happen, and I was yelling at the TV.
I thought D'Antoni was an offensive guy. And sure, the offense isn't the major problem area, but when you see the way they execute and it looks like it's still preseason, there's a problem. These are veteran players who shouldn't take this long to mesh on offense. Seems to me the coach isn't making it happen. Howard looks like he's beyond frustrated all the time, Artest doesn't look like he wants to be there (even though he's playing well), Nash looks 10 years older than he did last season, Kobe is playing well but can't seem to bring everyone together, and Pau has made it known that he cares more about being a starter even if the stats show that him playing with Howard makes the team more ineffective. I don't know.
Seems to me it's time to reevaluate everything. Is Howard really the guy you want to build around, or is there a trade out there that brings back another player you can build around? Is there a scenario where it makes sense to keep Pau? Is Artest's elevated level of play this season making him more valuable in a trade? Is it even possible to make a few trades to bring in players that better fit around the core of Howard and Kobe and Nash? Would firing a second coach in the same season give this team a better chance? Seems like we lose no matter what.
"We're going to have to change something … probably going to have to post the ball a lot more, slow the game down a lot more," he said.
revgen wrote:"We're going to have to change something … probably going to have to post the ball a lot more, slow the game down a lot more," he said.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-kobe-bryant-lakers-20130122,0,4156470.story?track=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=53297
If we're going to do that, then Pau (stop being pushed off the block by Andre Miller of all people) and Dwight (stop being stripped on every postup opportunity) are going to have to step up their game.
We're also going to have to put our best shooters on the floor, who aren't necessarily our best defenders. D12 absolutely needs the maximum space possible in order to work. He's not like Bynum where he can operate in a crowded lane.
We also need to do a better job of moving off the ball. Only guys I see doing that are Jamison and Clark. None of the guards really move off the ball well at all.
dwighthowardsdad wrote:The Mike Brown pace. Slow down the game to a grinding halt to try to hide our defensive weaknesses. One thing Kobe is right about in this situation is working from the free-throw line extended down concering HIM; he's best operating in the post at this point in his career...
lotus wrote:The only thing they can do is make trades to get players that will make MDA's system more productive. Or eat MDA's contract and let Bernie Bickerstaff coach for a year or two until Brown's salary drops off. jimmy screwed this franchise.
revgen wrote:"We're going to have to change something … probably going to have to post the ball a lot more, slow the game down a lot more," he said.

khmrP wrote:the system is flawed but Kobe isn't helping with his volume shooting. I see his comments about having to try and pass Howard the ball but seriously he makes it sound like its Howard fault for turning his back in hopes of getting position to get the a MISSED shot when Kobe goes up. Who goes up to shoot and thinks teammates should prep for a pass knowing Kobe's rep?
Chillbongo wrote:khmrP wrote:the system is flawed but Kobe isn't helping with his volume shooting. I see his comments about having to try and pass Howard the ball but seriously he makes it sound like its Howard fault for turning his back in hopes of getting position to get the a MISSED shot when Kobe goes up. Who goes up to shoot and thinks teammates should prep for a pass knowing Kobe's rep?
While I agree with your post, not the bolded part. As a basketball player you ALWAYS keep an eye on the ball AND the defense.
Howard's too good for that excuse. Sure, Kobe's shooting habits might make those kinds of passes less frequent, but as a basketball player you ALWAYS expect a pass.
That one's on Dwight.

khmrP wrote:Chillbongo wrote:khmrP wrote:the system is flawed but Kobe isn't helping with his volume shooting. I see his comments about having to try and pass Howard the ball but seriously he makes it sound like its Howard fault for turning his back in hopes of getting position to get the a MISSED shot when Kobe goes up. Who goes up to shoot and thinks teammates should prep for a pass knowing Kobe's rep?
While I agree with your post, not the bolded part. As a basketball player you ALWAYS keep an eye on the ball AND the defense.
Howard's too good for that excuse. Sure, Kobe's shooting habits might make those kinds of passes less frequent, but as a basketball player you ALWAYS expect a pass.
That one's on Dwight.
well its not just Howard when Kobe goes up for a shot and decides last minute to try and pass cause he realize's he's gona be forced into a bad shot that aren't expecting a pass from Kobe when this happens.
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