Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby ADT on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:51 pm

(To media on @TWCSportsNet) Kobe said that not only do Lakers need to self-assess individually...they also need to assess the system...yup.


If thats kobe saying this system sucks and is not working thats it. If Kobe gives up on the system being ran then the entire team will give up aswell. Time for change someone who will run system inside out and focus on defense!
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:55 pm

^^ I'm with that. Too late to do much about it though. D' Antoni's been incredibly inflexible as a coach. Can't imagine there will be any real changes there.

The best they've played out there was with no system. Just minimal coaching, but great substitutions under Bernie. He let them play - trusted the guys and they responded. No real agenda. Just win games.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby quartzcharm on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:55 pm

Unfortunately, I don't think thats an option. Not only is Pringles stubborn, but I don't think he's smart enough to implement a system that maximizes all the talent on the team.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby noobiew on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:00 am

Thank you Jim Buss for ruining our season ! :bow:
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby D.B. Cooper on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:00 am

Bring back Bernie or make Jordan the HC
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:51 am

This is like saying the sky is blue. Anyone with any hint of common sense knew this a long time ago. Many questioned the hiring of Datoni from the get go. Jim Buss has ruined this team with his horrible coaching hires.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby kblo247 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:56 am

You got a tea, of post up players playing pick and roll because the system fits Nash who has never won anything or got the conference playing that way. Nash needs to be Kerr or Fisher, a spot up guy. Kobe, Metta, and Pau hould post up. Dwight should flash to the goal and clean up the trash ala Horace Grant and young Bynum on the title teams. Fact is Phil was a better fit as was the triangle and Princeton O for everyone but Nash, and it shows
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby kenzo on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:56 am

Jim, Jim, Jim... wasn't it Dr Buss, who wanted Pringles realy bad?
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby kenshi1023 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:04 am

kenzo wrote:Jim, Jim, Jim... wasn't it Dr Buss, who wanted Pringles realy bad?


I think dr. Buss prefers more on getting lays than pringles.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby GoldenKnight on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:07 am

D'Antoni doesn't know any other offense than the one he runs, that is why he was a terrible hire & that is why he has never won anything, he doesn't adjust not because he doesn't want to, its because he doesn't know how.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Lakeshow24 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:25 am

kblo247 wrote:You got a tea, of post up players playing pick and roll because the system fits Nash who has never won anything or got the conference playing that way. Nash needs to be Kerr or Fisher, a spot up guy. Kobe, Metta, and Pau hould post up. Dwight should flash to the goal and clean up the trash ala Horace Grant and young Bynum on the title teams. Fact is Phil was a better fit as was the triangle and Princeton O for everyone but Nash, and it shows


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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby KB24 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:30 am

kenshi1023 wrote:
kenzo wrote:Jim, Jim, Jim... wasn't it Dr Buss, who wanted Pringles realy bad?


I think dr. Buss prefers more on getting lays than pringles.

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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Lakeshow24 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:31 am

KB24 wrote:
kenshi1023 wrote:
kenzo wrote:Jim, Jim, Jim... wasn't it Dr Buss, who wanted Pringles realy bad?


I think dr. Buss prefers more on getting lays than pringles.

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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:33 am

Kobe at odds with the "system".

Kobe upset with MDA.

Kobe death stare coming?
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Lakeshow24 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:03 am

Chillbongo wrote:Kobe at odds with the "system".

Kobe upset with MDA.

Kobe death stare coming?


Kobe upset at "the system" is code for BRING PHIL JACKSON BACK.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:24 am

But, I thought 'Antoni was an "offensive genius".
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby BDG on Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:26 am

DEAD ON!

I've never seen a Lakers team look so confused for half a season (so far). On both ends.

Hiring D'Antoni was a horrible move. His system will take you to the conference finals at best. On top of that we don't even have the personnel to run his system. On top of that we don't even look like we're running a system.

The last two games were such glaring examples of this.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:35 am

It's the Knicks all over again. D'Antoni never learns from his mistakes.

Put Kobe at SF, bring in a young athletic PG, and let Nash play as co-PG / SG.

Nash is needed for his veteran leadership, not as the rudder of the offense. He too old to rudder anything.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby lakersin4 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:53 am

I don't see what assessing it is going to do. Phil was probably the only coach in the league capable of using 2 7 footers at the same time & playing through them. Nothing D'antoni knows how to do is going to make our personnel work. He's not going to start playing inside out & make Nash a spot up shooter.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby abeer3 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:09 am

it's extremely painful for everything i've been saying about dantoni for the last decade to be proven true with my team as the case study.

that said, mike brown's version looked just as bad. so, if you're management, it can't just be about the coach. everything should be on the table right now.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby nameant on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:01 am

Wait....we have a system?
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby charvin on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:35 am

That stare should have been done already.

Chillbongo wrote:Kobe at odds with the "system".

Kobe upset with MDA.

Kobe death stare coming?
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby ElginTheGreat on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:38 am

nameant wrote:Wait....we have a system?



Exactly. What plays are we running? What is our defensive strategy? We are completely lost out there.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:43 am

The only time our offense looks good is when we run horns. When we run pick and roll, we forget to pick and then we don't roll.

Our defense just sucks. No communication and it seems it's one guy trying to lock their man down as opposed to playing team defense. D12/Clark run around and cover for everybody else who gets lost on screens and backdoor cuts. Perimeter defense is crap as well.

We need to start running Kobe System.
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Re: Kobe: "Need to assess the system"

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:07 am

abeer3 wrote:it's extremely painful for everything i've been saying about dantoni for the last decade to proven true with my team as the case study.

that said, mike brown's version looked just as bad. so, if you're management, it can't just be about the coach. everything should be on the table right now.


First... I don't like MDA's system and I don't think he's a championship coach.... I didn't like Brown's system and didn't think he was that good either.

With that said.... I think we're a poorly matched team of individuals and there isn't a system that can fix our issues.

We have 6 players (Kobe, Howard, Pau, Nash, MWP and Jamison) that have all been the primary player on a team in the past. They have all had "systems" built around their talents with the exception of MWP and Jamison. Getting them to share and move without the ball isn't something that comes naturally or even innately to them.

It's so obvious to anyone who really understands the game, you can't just throw together a bunch of big names and expect success. If Kobe has another chance at a championship here in LA this team needs to be dismantled and re-built from just about the ground up..... and quickly. I don't think what we're seeing is fixable with a new system.
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