Laker News with Howard Beck at 1150 today!!!!

Laker News with Howard Beck at 1150 today!!!!

Postby Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 on Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:11 pm

Howard Beck is the guest at Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton's show today at 6:30 PM. He is the beat writer for the Lakers and he will discuss the possible moves of the Lakers in terms of the draft and free agency. Hope you guys can listen.

It is 1150 AM Radio.
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Postby Lakers Dynasty 2000 on Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:22 pm

I missed it (stupid flu!) Can someone post a recap of it?
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Postby Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 on Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:37 pm

Nothing special LD.
It is basically things we are talking about in here.

Rumors about Payton, Howard, Malone, and Brown.

And the direction of the team in terms of the draft. How Mitch is looking at some Euro's.

Walton is a possibility.

Since he is a beat writer, he just provided the possibilities that can happen.
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Postby Snakell Beast on Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:05 am

Well, there isn't much to report right now because where we go in the free agent pool will very largely depend on the players we get in the draft...
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Postby Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 on Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:17 am

From what I heard in the show, the Lakers are looking closely at Brian Cook or Zaur Pachulia. This could be an indication that free agency wise, we are zoned in to Payton or another PG.
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Postby Snakell Beast on Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:59 am

The Power Forward I want most from the draft is Malick Badiane. If we got he and Hansen, Outlaw or one of the other mid-front court guys left at the #32, we'd be pretty set in the front court...
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Postby ELF on Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:43 am

Sorry this belongs in another thread.

I wouldn't make that deal. Lewis for Fisher, George and our picks, are you crazy? You going to give up two experience players that are comfortable running the offense for someone that needs to learn the offense and two picks. And you say this will definately bring GP. How do you know? And lets say GP goes down that leaves Pargo running the Point and you want Rush to back up Lewis. Man, I'm glad you guys aren't the GM.

If Mitch was to make this trade and it doesn't pan out, all of you would be calling for his head. How could he give up Fish and D. George. Snakell Beast, where are you? Normally, I agree with 75% of the things you say, but this is crazy. Someone please find out what happen to the real SBeast.

GP/Fisher
Kobe/Rush/P?(the guy from the clippers)
D. George/Griffin/Fox
D. Coleman/Medvedenko/Horry
O'neal

Now this is a lineup and it's possible. Wthout trading two of our most experience players. And we will still have 2 picks. So if we wanted to pull off a sign and trade for GP (but without giving up both Fish and George) we could. And, then would could use our MLE for Howard.

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Postby Snakell Beast on Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:47 pm

Rashard has something that is universally communicative in basketball, Athletic Ability and Natural Talent. If Samaki Walker can come in and contribute a solid season in a championship year as a first year triangle starter, then Rashard Lewis can do better...I'll give you a guarantee on that...and if GP doesn't come, we can always get Smush Parker, Andre Miller (remember that we still have the MLE on this scenario) or trade for Jason Terry and use the MLE on James Posey or Lamar Odom...there are options....remember that Rush is someone the Hawks want, so don't say it isn't me, and don't question my level of analysis either...it just isn't practical...
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Postby Snakell Beast on Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:48 pm

In fact, if we waited until we signed GP or until GP went to another team we would have many options. If GP comes in, we spend the MLE on a Small Forward, among the MLE / LLe players at that position are:

James Posey
Lamar Odom
Adrian Griffin
Corey Maggette
Scottie Pippen
Donnell Harvey
Lee Nailon
Dion Glover
DerMarr Johnson
Juaquin Hawkins
Mike Batiste
Calbert Cheaney
Scott Padgett
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Postby Snakell Beast on Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:51 pm

If GP goes elsewhere and we make the trade anyway, we have several options at PG as well for the MLE...

PG Options:

Kevin Ollie
Brent Price
Jacque Vaughn
Kenny Anderson
Eddie House
Smush Parker
Jason Terry
Milt Palacio
Junior Harrington
Shammond Williams
Gilbert Arenas
Earl Boykins
Andre Miller
Travis Best
Darrell Armstrong
Antonio Daniels
Speedy Claxton
Mark Jackson
Tyronn Lue
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Postby Snakell Beast on Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:00 pm

Then there is the ideal situation with this possible trade. Here is how it transpires in the best case scenario:

We trade D-Fish, Devean George and our #24/#32 to Seattle for Rashard Lewis.

We Trade Kareem Rush and Mark Madsen to the Hawks (in an abbreviated version of the Ratliff Terry deal, minus Horry and Ratliff) for Jason Terry

We extend Horry for the 5.3 million.

We sign James Posey with the MLE.

We sign Eric Piatkowski for the minimum.

Now our roster looks like this:

PG: Jason Terry / Jannero Pargo
SG: Kobe Bryant / Eric Piatkowski
SF: James Posey / Eric Piatkowski (until Rick Fox recovers)
PF: Rashard Lewis / Stanislav Medvedenko / Robert Horry
C: Shaquille O'neal / Stanislav Medvedenko

I am not claiming this will happen, but it is a realistically optimistic possibility and it is only one of a miriad of possibilities regarding this possible trade, don't assume I haven't thought out every rumored or likely possible scenario involving my beloved Lakers, because I know every aspect of all of them and I know very much what is in the best interests for our team...Let us hope Mitch and Jerry do as well...
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Postby whats golden on Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:58 pm

my thoughts exactly SB, i was even going to start a thread asking for peoples opinions about it. the only change I would make is maybe instead of Posey, we try and get Lamar Odom. ALthough I would love to see us get GP.
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Postby DaGrinch on Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:27 pm

Terry is expected to stay with the hawks new rumors report for alotta money. We are NOT going to trade those that know the triangle offense for a multitude of reasons. In order to learn the triangle it takes at least a year to function smoothly as a unit. No other teams are going to take a triangle minded PG like fisher. Fisher has been a laker since his inception and should remain so, just a bakup PG now.

Payton says he wants the money and that aint gonna happen with the LAKE show so he can piss off the greedy bastard. If no one wants the guranteed ring that the lakers can offer, maybe the only team besides the friggen spurs to offer such a thing. So the glove aint coming here and I am happier for it, he has an ego that wouldnt mesh well witht he other laker egos that tend to both sensitive and combative at times.

The best chance the lakers have is sit tight with Fish, Rush/Parago (only one the other has to go hell maybe both), Kobe, Fox, Mede, Horry, Shaq.

Mad dog falls from the NBA radar like he should or maybe we ship him to the nuggets cause we are nice.

As appealing as Posey sounds he basically would play behind Kobe and we don't need that. Sure we can force one them to play another position but they are both truly SG. Hell no to odom, he suffers from the Kandi man disease. He'll watch most of every season from the bench hurt or doped up. He ain't a laker he's a clipper. Piatkowski would fit nicely on the lakers as a three point specialist which the lake show needs since horry forgot how to shot dem.

But the man the lake show should PUT ALL EFFORTS into getting is Gilbert Arenas. He had a breakout second year at the age of 21. He would mesh well with filling the needs of the laker egos of Kobe and sahq for he out to get all the points and yet he is a very capable scorer. Runs a very succinct point and with Kobe our backcourt would be set until 2010 if we resigned kobe. AND HE WANTS TO BE LAKER! major plus not about the benji's.

As for fullfilling the need for another big man, I think we should play slava more get him into some kinda of confident ryhtyhm. PJ brown would be a fool to stay and play for the worst coach the NBA has seen in 12 years in tim floyd but he is a southern boy so he might stay.

I never want to see Karl Malone in purple and gold plain and simple esepcially if he beats Kareem's record. So that leaves very dire pickings but if Keon Clark walks from Sacto's 5 million then he would be the number one man to go after. Highly underrated even if he is a dope head. We aint gonna get Rashard lewis for if the sonics did that they would be setting themselves bae both truly SG. Hell no to odom, he suffers from the Kandi man disease. He'll watch most of every season from the bench hurt or doped up. He ain't a laker he's a clipper. Piatkowski would fit nicely on the lakers as a three point specialist which the lake show needs since horry forgot how to shot dem.

But the man the lake show should PUT ALL EFFORTS into getting is Gilbert Arenas. He had a breakout second year at the age of 21. He would mesh well with filling the needs of the laker egos of Kobe and sahq for he out to get all the points and yet he is a very capable scorer. Runs a very succinct point and with Kobe our backcourt would be set until 2010 if we resigned kobe. AND HE WANTS TO BE LAKER! major plus not about the benji's.

As for fullfilling the need for another big man, I think we should play slava more get him into some kinda of confident ryhtyhm. PJ brown would be a fool to stay and play for the worst coach the NBA has seen in 12 years in tim floyd but he is a southern boy so he might stay.

I never want to see Karl Malone in purple and gold plain and simple esepcially if he beats Kareem's record. So that leaves very dire pickings but if Keon Clark walks from Sacto's 5 million then he would be the number one man to go after. Highly underrated even if he is a dope head. We aint gonna get Rashard lewis for if the sonics did that they would be setting themselves back like ten years. they aint as stupid as the knicks or maybe they are we'll see. Lee Nailon knows how to be a puzzle piece and contribute and play ddefense so he might fit, but all in all It's up to shaq for the only help the lakers are really going to get is in the PG position. but then maybe they will be able to hit shots and the offense wont rely on shaq so much.

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Postby #1_Kobe_fan on Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:43 am

about LEWIS... isn't he a SMALL FORWARD? He plays like one, in Seatle thats the position he played.... hmmm doesn't that make him a SMALL FORWARD? I know he is 6'9" but plays a small guys game. I don't think he is the answer at all concerning our PF spot. I don't even want to mention how FAT his contract is. He would be a nice fit IF, he was a free agent and offered him the MLE. If they do decide to go ahead with the trade... Lewis would be our starting Small Forward ( may get some PT at PF) If that is the CASE... I'd much rather get ODOM who is the CLIPPS best all around PLAYER Skillwise. ODOM has handles, has a decent "J", nice array of Post-up moves... and PHIL can teach him to play "D".
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Postby Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 on Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:57 am

Odom just have to say "NO TO DRUGS", then I'll welcome him.

If not, keep that drug addict out of the purple and gold. He'll just tarnish the uniform.
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Postby BDG on Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:31 am

I think you're right, Lewis is a small forward. I got a better idea for how we can pull SB's lineup off (with some modifications), because it still is realistic. We pull the trade for Rashard and instead of using our MLE on Posey, we get PJ, Juwan or Malone with our MLE. This is how our roster will look:

PG: Jason Terry / Jannero Pargo
SG: Kobe Bryant / Eric Piatkowski
SF: Rashard Lewis / Eric Piatkowski (until Rick Fox recovers)
PF: (FA PF from above) / Stanislav Medvedenko / Robert Horry
C: Shaquille O'neal / Stanislav Medvedenko

You have an allstar/future allstars at every position there. That would be an interesting lineup. We would be a powerhouse team offensively. I wouldn't worry about a 3rd scorer with this roster. I would wonder if we could get a 6th.
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Postby #1_Kobe_fan on Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:09 am

DunkGIANT... what happened to our Draft Picks?.. who should we get at what position?
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Postby whats golden on Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:51 pm

our picks would be traded with players to seattle for lewis
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Postby Worthy of Lakers on Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:06 am

You guys have got to be kidding me? Lamar Odom? Gary Payton? Rashard Lewis? Karl Malone? First of all, let's start with Odom. No way would I ever want him to be part of the purple and gold. That guy is not only a ball hog, he wants the spotlight on himself. He's not a team player. Nearly anyone who's been a Clipper for more than 3 years is pretty much a selfish player. Payton is the epitiomy of self-centered egos. He's in it for him and him only. He drove Kemp, Karl and nearly anyone else who had talent out of Seattle. There's a reason why he hasn't won a ring. Lewis is a great player, but we won't get him. You really think the Sonics, a rival since forever, will actually trade us one of their best players. I don't think so. As for Malone, that guy is the dirtiest, filthiest, B.S.ing player I've ever seen. He has no respect for others except for Stockton and his old school Jazz teammates. That guy has done some pretty ridiculous things, let alone done some pretty dirty things while playin the Lakers. Forget Malone and his mission to be the all-time points leader in NBA history. That's selfishness we don't need.

However, there were others out there we could use. Piatkowski is the prototypical type of player the Lakers have been needing since Shaq and Kobe have arrived. His the outside presence who knows his role. He's unselfish and willing to do anything to help the team win. P.J. Brown would be a great fit. He's the PF the Lakers could use. Quiet, but he plays tough as nails in the paint. A GREAT defender, rebounder and can even get 10 - 12 pts. per game. That's what you want out of a tough guy. Someone who will pick up the trash and take it out. PGs like Andre Miller and Gilbert Arenas would be great PGs in the system. They are both tall and athletic. The bonus, they each have ball-handling skills and look to pass first, then shoot. Three of the four would be my goal to obtain as the GM of the Lakers. They aren't especially expensive. I say make Fox sit the year and get a medical exemption. Let Horry go (thanks Horry for the three championships...). Honestly, I think Fisher or George has got to go. I don't hate them, but they are just too inconsistent. We can't have two inconsistent players who will play a big role on the team. So, one has got to go. Besides, the money they take up is killing us. They aren't worth what we're paying them. There are plenty more work to do besides what I mentioned. However, I don't have that much time right now to get into it. Let's watch what the Lakers do at the draft and go from there. We'll have a better understanding of what direction they'll be going this year. Mitch, you've only got this one year to turn your terrible track record around or I'll actually start calling for the rope.
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