Anthony Ireland (5'10" 176 lb SG)--Undrafted out of Loyola Marymount, Ireland had one season of straight-up shooting guard gunning that likely puts him at scoring, combo guard material. However, his 7'4.5" standing reach suggests that he'll be extremely small, and that will likely deter him from getting real looks. That, in combination with poor 2-point and subpar 3-point percentages hurts. Throw-away, Europe type prospect.
DeAndre Kane (6'4" 200 lb SG)--Kane is reasonably but not exceptionally athletic--11th out of 35 shooting guard prospects--and finished at the rim well this past season, while also putting up positive rates in dunking, foul drawing and creating shots for himself. Reasonable scorer with a decent 2-point percentage (48.4%), buoyed by his ability to get to the rim and draw some fouls (45% of his shots were at the rim, a good number for a guard). He also fits the mold of the combo guard in today's NBA who can pinch point--with an assist rate just south of 0.3 and very good handles for a NBA shooting guard. Good rebounder and competent defensive rebounder. There is some ground-work for stat stuffing/triple-doubles here. He's also well conditioned (5% body fat). Now to the cons: perhaps the biggest one, Kane is already 25 years old, a huge reason why he wasn't considered draft-able; he ranked 70th in my final algorithm out of 101 prospects. Is what you see what you get? Kane also put in a somewhat subpar steal rate over four seasons of college stats, and is a very poor jumpshooter: he shot 33.0% on all jumpers this past season, a mark that would be 29th out of my 35-shooting guard sample, and career-wise, he's a 31.1% three point shooter. The fact that he's just a flat-out awful foul shooter (60.0% on large samples) spells little hope for his jumper in general. Kane has virtues as a reasonably athletic finisher who really pass, rebound and handle the rock, but he's not a freak athlete, and with a severe lack of predictive markers--age and steals--as well as what looks to be just a broken jumper, it's questionable just how much of his multi-dimensional game he can really tap into for the NBA.
LaQuinton Ross (6'8" 239 lb C)--Ross is listed as a small forward, but let's not fool ourselves: the guy puts up complete black-hole assist rates, and while he isn't turnover prone, those assist rates bring him all the way down to center levels. Can't imagine it's fun playing next to him, as he's a head-down scorer (20.6 points per game average across two seasons at OSU). Ross did shoot 50.1% on 2's throughout college, a healthy number, is in the slight positives in finishing and foul drawing, and his jumper appears decent (36.2% on threes for his career, 35.1% on all jumpers this past year, 75.4% cumulative free throw shooting). That's important, because over two-thirds of his shots the past season were jumpers, and while there's no severe weaknesses, considering his scoring game, it's questionable whether his lack of bread-and-butter offensively hurts him. But where we can put those Nick Young head down scoring comparisons to rest is on a strict athleticism scale: Ross is just woefully unathletic. He is 239 lbs and carrying 16.5% body fat, illustrating his lack of conditioning, and only carries a 31-inch vertical; pricing him among my center samples, he was 24th in hidden-athleticism out of 27 candidates, in particular having an abominable dunk rate (1.2%) for someone who stands 6'8". There are of course other problems besides zero passing, conditioning and athleticism, and the very likely positional issues that arise from those concerns: Ross carries an absolutely poor, negative-outlier type steal rate, and also doesn't bring much to the table as a rebounder. He did play for very stingy defensive teams the past two seasons, and did improve his defense from his 4th-worst defense the past year, but there have always been concerns surrounding his defense, and his lack of steals and rebounds override the team's success there. Like Nick Young, there are no assists, steals, or rebounds to his game, but even worse than Young is his complete lack of athleticism, conditioning, and at 239 lbs, possibly position. He ranked 95th out of 101 prospects in my algorithm, because there are way more questions than answers here.
Roscoe Smith (6'7" 184 lb C)--Smith has very woeful metrics offensively--he sports a 48.1% two-point percentage and a scoring rate of 11.5 per 40 minutes pace adjusted, both dreadful numbers for a center, because he's already 23 years old, there's likely very little room left for development. And yes, he's a 6'7" center--even within his low usage space, he can't pass or handle the ball. These are all huge red flag numbers. Smith rebounded extremely well the past season, especially for his size, but that appears to be an outlier given his rates the past two seasons, and he rounds out to being just an OK rebounder at best for a NBA center. The other thing--for a NBA center, Smith isn't very athletic: he ranked 21st out of 27 centers in "hidden athleticism" the past season, with the primary culprit being a very low dunk rate (5.1%), which is low even for NBA PF standards, but also a slight negative foul drawing rate. Elsewhere, Smith has a negative-outlier-y steal rate and awful block rates, not just by position, but even for his size, even if he doesn't foul much. Given his lack of athleticism coupled with a severe lack of weight, combined with the huge positional concerns, that's already enough not to make it to the NBA, especially with past finishing woes and the lack of predictive athletic markers. Instead, Smith uses his low-usage to get off mid-range jumpers: comprising nearly half his shots, he shot 38.8% on mid-range jumpers this past season, a good mark, and considering he shoots at a 68% aggregate in free throws, there is slight hope here. Smith was the third-best defender for the 46th best defensive team this past season and conditions himself well (4.7% body fat), so he might be more of a contain defender, but there's still very little worth for a 6'7" center who hits mid-range jumpers and might adequately play defense, when there are positional and broad-based athletic concerns in combination with age. He ranked as the absolute worst prospect in my algorithm (101st out of 101).
Former NBA Players:
Rodrigue Beaubois (6'2" 182 SG)--Back when teams were searching for the next Rajon Rondo circa 2009, Beaubois had it all: at 6'2", he had an absolutely gigantic 6'10" wingspan on top of a 39' inch vertical. Beyond his freakish measurements, there was the applied athleticism: prior to hitting the NBA, he had an excellent two-point percentage (a mark usually buoyed by excellent at-rim percentages), and racked up 1.9 steals and 1.05 blocks per 40 minutes pace adjusted, with the latter mark really illustrating great use of his wingspan. An overzealous defender who got into foul trouble, but there were great marks here. On offense, his game-plan was different from Rondo--Beaubois is a combo guard who really preferred to set up shop for jumpers, even though it seemed fairly average (35.9% 3's, 62.9% FTs across two seasons). Even worse than that was an absolutely pathetic foul drawing rate, for someone with that level of athleticism. Beaubois displayed the same tantalizing potential as a member of the Mavericks during his rookie year--he put up an excellent rookie PER of 18.6, showcased an ability to score inside and outside, while applying himself on defense. That shotblocking really held up. But he became unreliable, missing large chunks of games for the next three seasons while seeing his 2-point and 3-point percentages absolutely plummet. His injuries absolutely sunk his free agency chances a year ago and he's looking to bounce back. That being said, he gives the impression of a downward spiral: in twelve games in very low level competition in Belgium, he shot 35.1% from the field and 28.3% from three, with even worse assist, steal and block rates than before. He's rapidly losing steam. He still creates the impression, at age 26, that he's a sparkplug scorer with an ability to finish and hit jumpers very well, and you can't ignore those freakish tools on defense. There are enough concerns with his lack of foul drawing, injuries and how those injuries affect his inside-outside efficiency, and that downward spiral, however. But he has always been an interesting player, especially for the thievery and athleticism-at-point guard deprived Lakers. We're getting him at the lowest point of his career, but there's no risk involved here.
Jerome Jordan (7'0" 244 lb C)--A former Bucks second round draft pick, Jordan showcased an ability to score, rebound, block shots and even a semblance of free throw touch in his four years at college, but showcased a relatively low steal rate, was a non-passer for a scorer, played for a middling school and he was old-school in a league that wanted to move faster. Still, you can't deny he was a 7-footer with a 7-foot-5 wingspan. He toiled in the Adriatic League and even spent three seasons in the D-League, including a stint two seasons ago with the Lakers' farm team D-Fenders; he spent last season in the Italian League. He's developed into a robust, high teens scoring big, maintaining his general percentages and block rates, but his rebound rate has suffered somewhat. Still age 27, he'll need to firm up that rebounding, but he brings enough dimensions that with the right team, he can be of relative use, even with an old-school style.
Kevin Murphy (6'6" 185 lb PF)--Murphy is just a scorer. That's the end of his strengths. He did shoot over 40% from deep in two of his four college seasons, but didn't take as many of those as he could have, and had subpar free throw percentages. Even more than that--he developed major tunnel vision his last two years and his passing and handles are on par with NBA power forwards, his two-point percentage is poor and his steal rate is absymal. There's nothing to make up for his singular dimension. He played that gunner role well with the Idaho Stampede, and in fact shot well from 2's, 3's and from the line, but that appears to be a major aberration--he also had a stint with Strasbourg in Europe that had the same concerns exhibited in years past. Summer league fodder.
Trevor Mbakwe (6'8" 236 lb PF)--Mbakwe barely cut as a power forward, largely due to poor handles. He's had an eventful college career marred with injuries--in one three season span (roughly over a 100+ games), he only played 19, so he entered the NBA Draft last year at the age of 24 after constant red-shirting. Mbakwe's calling card is top notch rebounding, on both ends of the glass, although he's slightly better on the o-glass. Reasonable 2-pt %'s with good foul drawing rate, and fairly good shotblocking rate. Not a shooter. Iffy steal rate. Overall, an active defensive player who will rebound and a block a few shots, and draw fouls on offense, but undersized aspect, age and injury concerns might hold him back a bit. A warrior type.
Xavier Gibson (6'11" 267 lb C)--Gibson was a non-entity even at Florida State, never playing more than 18.5 minutes per game; even there, he displayed an inability to draw fouls, rebound, and later into his college career awful two-point percentages. Zero handles. He also displayed these weaknesses in a stint with the Greek League two years ago. He's likely considered an energy big, but he has little skill level and applied athleticism, and at age 25 he's easily fodder.
Drew Gordon (6'9" 239 lb C)--The older brother of almost-Laker Aaron Gordon, and one who played over a year at UCLA, Gordon's passing rates were at center levels in college, and he confirmed those rates this season splitting time between the Eurocup and the Italian Leagues. Gordon is an excellent rebounder, especially at the offensive glass but he also does well on the D-boards. Reasonably active hands, but not much of a shotblocker for his size, but trimmed down foul rate over the course of college. Relatively non-descript 2-pt percentages, free throw percentages and poor foul drawing rate, but puts up good scoring rates at nearly every stop he's been to. Rebounding and on-the-ball energy will likely be his calling card, with some scoring, but it's hard to see beyond that.
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