A couple notes/questions.
1) You mentioned about Gasol being soft. If we sign Magloire to the MLE and keep Odom by sending out Bynum and Kwame in the deal to get GAsol,
Magloire can provide the toughness we need at center by moving Gasol to PF and Odom to SF.
What do you think?
We can then look to improve the PG position by another trade. Perhaps Vlad for Watson or Ridnour, as an example.
2) And the same applies to Oneal.
IF Odom stays, we can still sign Magloire and have a Magloire, Oneal, Odom frontcourt. Very strong defensively and on the boards.
I think either scenario in 1 and 2 works.
And by getting Green, it limits our PG problems in this scenario.
3) However, do you really think that deal is enough for JO. I don't remember you thinking Vlad could be in a deal like that without taking back Tinsley AND For the fact they already have Dunleavy in a similar role being paid 8 mil a year. I think I remember you saying it was a no go.
Realistically, what are the chances that other teams are willing to take on Tinsley, so we throw in Bynum, BUT the Pacers STILL demand Odom on the deal rather than Kwame and Vlad.
Because frankly, I know Kwame is an expiring contract, but his deal + Bynum's isn't enough to land JO, therefore another player will have to be added.
Obviuosly both sides will start somewhere.
The lakers start with
Kwame, Odom, #19 for JO
The Pacers counter with
Kwame, Odom, Bynum for JO, Tinsley
And somewhere in the middle a deal will be reached. BUT, in that compromised deal, I just don't see the Pacers in that compromise willing to:
1) NOT unload Tinsley
2) TAKE Back Vlad
3) NOT get Odom
Thats what the proposed, Kwame, Bynum, Vlad, 19 for JO and Green is.
It basically gives us everythign we wanted outside of trading Bynum.
The question is, whats more valuable to the Pacers:
Kwame's expiring contract or Lamar Odom's ability and realtively short 2 years left?
If I had a choice as Pacers GM and the choices were, I cant trade Tinsley but I get a choice of Odom, Bynum or Kwame and Vlad + Bynum,
Id choose Odom + Bynum EVERY single time.
4) So the ultimate question to ask is this:
IF we agree to somehow trade Odom AND Bynum plus filler to the Pacers for JO WITHOUT Tinsley, what can we get back of value coupled with JO.
Can we get Marquis Daniels or say Danny Granger (Pipe) or Shawne Williams and Orien Greene.
Because its like I said, id rather have Odom for 2 years than Kwame for 1 and Vlad for 5.
Odom, Bynum, 19 >>>>> better than Kwame, Vlad, Bynum, 19
Last edited by AVH
on Tue May 08, 2007 11:10 am, edited 1 time in total.