Lakers Draft Picks

Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Kingkoll on Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:27 pm

I know LA traded away thier draft picks for the next 3 years to aquire Nash & Dwight...but my question is, is thier 2013 first round pick lottery protected? I pray to god it is, cause it is going to be tough for us to make the playoffs thus year and if we do I see us losing in the first round in 5 or 6 games. If we get to keep our pick,then I would almost rather miss the playoffs. Mitch drafted well the last time we picked on the lotto...Bynum. Someone please answer. Thanks.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby themasterphil on Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:34 pm

on Mock its like this .....Phoenix receives a Lakers first round pick( lottery protected).....can someone explain what that mean, i am not good with draft rules
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:07 pm

Yeapp.....if our pick becomes #1-14.....it's instantly Phoenix's.

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds ....check the glossary.

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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Kingkoll on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:14 pm

I am not sure that is what lottery protected means. I think if we miss the playoffs and fall into the lottery...we keep our pick. If make the playoffs, we loose our pick. I am just looking for official confirmation of this.

If this is indeed true, then I don't want to make the playoffs just to get knocked out of the first round and loose our pick. How about you guys?
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:16 pm

Yeah, I always thought "lottery protected" meant the team who owns the pick has it protected....apparently according to Hollinger its the other way around?
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:18 pm

i've now read the five or six conflicting reports, and my sense is that the lakers have to give their pick to the suns if they miss the playoffs.

here's my question, though: the lakers had no first rounder in 2012, and i thought there was a rule against trading away first rounders in consecutive years. can anyone confirm that?

i mean, you can trade consecutive picks after they're made, just not before. if so, then i would think that to make the nash deal, they had to prove to the league that they'd have at least one pick in the 2013 first round. if not, the trade shouldn't have been approved. now, maybe a) i'm wrong or b) the rules changed. but i don't get it as is.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:20 pm

If that rule is true, whose pick do we have? We didn't get any picks in trading Bynum, Odom, or Fisher right?

Even still, it looks like the Lakers pick would be the most valuable....go figure :disagree:
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Kingkoll on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:30 pm

Ya it is amazing that we have all this talk about whether the Lakers will make the playoffs or not, but no one knows if we keep our potential lottery pick.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:41 pm

We don't have a 1st round pick this upcoming draft. It's gone no matter where we finish.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Kingkoll on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:50 pm

We are truly screwed. I see us missing the playoffs and losing our pick, with no cap room as well. We need to maximize the Gasol trade cuz that is our only asset. Mitch needs to hit another homerun.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby jlkr on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:53 pm

That the Lakers' first round pick this summer is gone no matter what can be verified HERE. Quitcherbellyaching and start rooting for the team to come back from all those injuries.

They should still have at least one 2nd round pick and possibly two. Dallas has the right to exchange 2nd round picks with the Lakers so figure the Lakers will get the later pick between the two. Also Memphis owes the Lakers a 2nd round pick from the Gasol trade unless it is in the top 55 in which case the obligation goes away.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby khmrP on Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:24 pm

yep and even if Pho wasn't in the picture, Clev had the rights to swap picks too :man10: ......as for the trading consecutive 1st rd pick, its only when you try to do at the same time so you cant do 2013/2014 at the same time but once 2013 draft is over you can go ahead and trade away 2015 pick if you like even if you've already traded 2014 pick.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Kingkoll on Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:42 pm

What is the freaking point of having Memphis give us a 2nd round pick in a trade just to have it Top 55 protected. How pathetic is that.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Vlade_12 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:32 pm

why the hell was it not protected?
Howard Gasol
Clark Hill
MWP
Kobe Meeks
Nash Duhon
Playoff rotation! Bring Casspi or Ariza back home for a Title Run Mitch!!!
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:49 pm

khmrP wrote:yep and even if Pho wasn't in the picture, Clev had the rights to swap picks too :man10: ......as for the trading consecutive 1st rd pick, its only when you try to do at the same time so you cant do 2013/2014 at the same time but once 2013 draft is over you can go ahead and trade away 2015 pick if you like even if you've already traded 2014 pick.


hmmm...thanks for the clarification. i really thought it was that you couldn't trade consecutive picks at all.

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The Stepien rule says teams can't trade first-round picks if they could be left without one in consecutive years. The rule looks only to the future -- teams that traded their 2010 picks can still trade their 2011 picks. But teams that already have traded their 2011 picks can't trade their 2012 picks. Once the 2011 draft is complete and a team's 2011 pick is no longer a future pick, it is free to trade its 2012 pick.


When dealing with pick protection, the Stepien rule is interpreted to mean that teams can't trade a first-round pick if it results in so much as a minute possibility that they could be without a first-round pick in consecutive years.


i've since read that it applies only to future seasons. thus, since the nash trade happened after the draft and the lakers hadn't traded their 2014 pick, i suppose they could technically lose it.

ouch.
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:50 pm

Vlade_12 wrote:why the hell was it not protected?


because no one in the entire universe thought the lakers would miss the playoffs?
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:22 pm

2013 first round draft pick to Phoenix
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]


In case anyone wanted the reasoning.....gone to Phoenix if it's 1-14.

2013 first round draft pick to Cleveland
Cleveland has the right to swap the least favorable of their own 2013 1st round pick, Miami's own 2013 1st round pick (top-10 protected) and Sacramento's own 2013 1st round pick (top-13 protected) with the L.A. Lakers own 2013 first round pick (top-14 protected). If the L.A. Lakers own 2013 first round pick is #1-#14, then the L.A. Lakers' obligation to Cleveland shall be extinguished. [Cleveland-L.A. Lakers, 3/15/2012]


So if it's 1-14, our obligation to Cleveland is extinguished.

That literature also states that Cleveland has the "right to swap the least favorable" of their picks with ours. So doesn't that mean we will get a pick if it's not 1-14? Cleveland has to "swap".

At this rate, it might end up being Miami's pick, but that's still better than no pick.

That's my understanding of this.....thoughts?
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Re: Lakers Draft Picks

Postby lakersfever on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:23 pm

Damn...so we can't even give up on this season and play for lottery? That's harsh. If we lost Dwight at the end of season also, I think it'd set us back for years. I can't imagine watching the Lakers without Dwight and Kobe. :freak2:
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