Lakers executive Jim Buss says 'we're not going to panic'

Lakers executive Jim Buss says 'we're not going to panic'

Postby emplay on Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:42 pm

Hey all,

Jim Buss spoke to John Ireland and Ramona Shelburne on ESPN710 – here’s my basic summary on Sulia:

http://sulia.com/channel/la-lakers/f/9b ... ce=twitter

In depth quotes – worth a look – on a ton of topics from Howard to Pau to D’Antoni

Lakers executive Jim Buss says 'we're not going to panic'
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Postby pound4pound1 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:58 pm

Jim should watch more games
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Postby Weezy on Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:11 pm

Well, at least not publicly anyway
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Postby The Laker Link on Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:47 pm

Us as fans, displaying our trust in just what the title says:

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Postby JLaker17 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:31 pm

Well I'm not saying he definitely is lying, but do you really expect him to say yes I am in full panic mode and I am desperate to make a move to try and fix this.
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Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:38 pm

Sooooo.....if MDA wasn't a "Panic" move I'd hate to think what is.....
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Postby JGC on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:45 pm

JLaker17 wrote:Well I'm not saying he definitely is lying, but do you really expect him to say yes I am in full panic mode and I am desperate to make a move to try and fix this.


Are those really the only two things he could possibly say?
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Postby phoenixrisingla on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:57 pm

Of course we're not going to panic. Didnt you guys hear his interview today?

All us fans are 100% positive and 100% confident we're going to turn things around!

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Postby 432J on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:58 pm

screw you jim

you're the reason for this mess you effin moron
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Postby hollywood swinger on Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:50 am

some real ungrateful people in here. the very guy your calling a moron traded for chris paul & was gonna pair him with D12 but the league screwed us. this wasn't his plan A this was our best we could do plan B. Can't knock them for this situation. He and mitch traded for CP3 and when that didn't happen we rolled the dice. quit crying :man6:
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Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:10 am

He also got mind tricked by Mike Brown about defense and lost Adelman in the process :bang: :freak2:
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Postby Kasumi on Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:48 am

Lakers fans aren't panicking, we're pissed off. Missing the playoffs due to poor managerial decisions? This is worse than the Smush Parker years.
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Postby 432J on Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:59 am

Kasumi wrote:Lakers fans aren't panicking, we're pissed off. Missing the playoffs due to poor managerial decisions? This is worse than the Smush Parker years.

yeah at least those 05-07 teams actually made the playoffs
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Postby khmrP on Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:13 am

I have no problem with his comments in regards to liking the team, not panicing etc. But I find comments such as the 100% positive feedbacks from fans, 100% behind MDA decision (just like 100% behind Brown), team hasn't played together stuff rather antagonizing to the fans, we're dumb we know what we're seeing on the floor isn't a good product and there is no way in hell anyone one of us is "100% positive" about the current situation.
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:17 am

khmrP wrote:I have no problem with his comments in regards to liking the team, not panicing etc. But I find comments such as the 100% positive feedbacks from fans, 100% behind MDA decision (just like 100% behind Brown), team hasn't played together stuff rather antagonizing to the fans, we're dumb we know what we're seeing on the floor isn't a good product and there is no way in hell anyone one of us is "100% positive" about the current situation.

Hey speak for yourself. :man1:
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Postby khmrP on Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:19 am

therealdeal wrote:
khmrP wrote:I have no problem with his comments in regards to liking the team, not panicing etc. But I find comments such as the 100% positive feedbacks from fans, 100% behind MDA decision (just like 100% behind Brown), team hasn't played together stuff rather antagonizing to the fans, we're dumb we know what we're seeing on the floor isn't a good product and there is no way in hell anyone one of us is "100% positive" about the current situation.

Hey speak for yourself. :man1:


oops meant we're NOT dumb :bang:
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Postby Congo Cash on Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:24 am

More like raging... Lakers below Utah and Minnesota, just embarrassing...
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Re: Lakers executive Jim Buss says 'we're not going to panic'

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:32 am

My problem here is what do you guys expect?

If Buss had come out and said "we're in full panic mode" what would you guys have done? Would you have said "well at least he's panicking" or would you have said "See!?? Your decisions are awful and you're awful too!"

I'm inclined to think the latter.

I understand we're all frustrated with this season so far, but what else do you want from the man? If he were panicking that'd be an even worse indictment of his ability to lead this team than what he said. He's still got faith in this team, that's good. Phil Jackson even said the team can make the playoffs still.

Our team really is talented we just haven't put it together yet. Obviously some things need to change: the heart of the team and maybe some personnel changes are the first two points. Until there is a mathmatical impossibilty of making the playoffs, I'll still have some hope. I'll keep my hopes in check of course, but certainly I will remain optimistic.
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:58 am

lakerswiz wrote:
therealdeal wrote:I understand we're all frustrated with this season so far, but what else do you want from the man?

Better decisions upfront so we don't get to this point.

Mike Dan Tony was not a great choice. Was not a good choice. Is not even a decent choice. It was a terrible choice. It should have never even been in their minds. It shows the basketball knowledge of Jim Buss and it shows how senile Jerry has gotten.

If Jimmy is going to keep running the team like this, it's going to get really hard to put up with.

I disagree absolutely.

Who else would have been better? Phil? Financially it was irresponsible, he would have had marginal success for this team, and he wouldn't have necessarily maximized the use of Nash while trying to take the reins from Kobe a bit offensively.

D'Antoni might be failing thus far, but his hire was not the hight of stupidity at the time. There were positives to what he would bring and those positives haven't overcome the negatives. Oh well. It was a calculated risk that didn't pay off, or hasn't thus far.

And that compeletely ignores the fact that the man opened his check book and is spending more than anyone else in the league BY FAR for this team. He's put together a team with tremendous talent and a tremendous resume and THEY are not performing at a Championship level with consistency. For the man's faults, he has positives as well.

Most fans choose to ignore them completely.
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Postby phoenixrisingla on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:03 pm

therealdeal wrote:
lakerswiz wrote:
therealdeal wrote:I understand we're all frustrated with this season so far, but what else do you want from the man?

Better decisions upfront so we don't get to this point.

Mike Dan Tony was not a great choice. Was not a good choice. Is not even a decent choice. It was a terrible choice. It should have never even been in their minds. It shows the basketball knowledge of Jim Buss and it shows how senile Jerry has gotten.

If Jimmy is going to keep running the team like this, it's going to get really hard to put up with.

I disagree absolutely.

Who else would have been better? Phil? Financially it was irresponsible, he would have had marginal success for this team, and he wouldn't have necessarily maximized the use of Nash while trying to take the reins from Kobe a bit offensively.

D'Antoni might be failing thus far, but his hire was not the hight of stupidity at the time. There were positives to what he would bring and those positives haven't overcome the negatives. Oh well. It was a calculated risk that didn't pay off, or hasn't thus far.

And that compeletely ignores the fact that the man opened his check book and is spending more than anyone else in the league BY FAR for this team. He's put together a team with tremendous talent and a tremendous resume and THEY are not performing at a Championship level with consistency. For the man's faults, he has positives as well.

Most fans choose to ignore them completely.


Although you make some good points TRD, I tend to side more with Lakerswiz.

Maybe I'm just a negative person in general, but the MDA hire seemed like an absolutely TERRIBLE decision at the time. I know you cant put this season all on him, but many of us saw this type of season coming the INSTANT the decision was announced:

- Lack of defensive effort.
- Incorrect use of player talent
- Inflexible offensive system
- Inability to to effectively control/motivate large ego's in a high pressure environment

... and so far everything is coming true. I was over-the-top negative when I heard the announcement and felt it was the worst possible decision of available coaches. Then, I made a conscious decision to be more positive and see what happened. Well, my patience is starting to run out already.

We're not a little disappointing, we're the joke of the league right now.

Obviously, you cant blame this season on any ONE thing, but a lions share of blame should be sitting on Jimmy's (and all managements) desk IMO.
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:11 pm

^ Then blame Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupcak too.

A large portion should be sitting ON ALL THREE OF THEIR DESKS. They are the decision making trio. You really think at this junction that Jerry Buss didn't want D'Antoni and the hope of "Showtime" back? Really? It's well documented that Jerry wasn't even a big fan of the Triangle because it wasn't exciting. It wasn't "Showtime". But since it won Championships, he was willing to do it.

Well now it's known that Phil never really wanted to coach that much again. He was checked out mentally from the situation. A new position opens up in New Jersey and he states that he has no intention of ever coaching again. Mitch said in his interview that it was his understanding that was always the case. Everyone tends to forget that because of the drama of the situation.

But to put all of this blame on Jim Buss when he was only one of THREE that made the choice is so ludicrous. And to then say he deserves the lion's share of the blame and yet no one (or at least very few, maybe LJ comes to mind) is willing to really point the blame at the FO as a whole. They ALL wanted D'Antoni.
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Postby phoenixrisingla on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:18 pm

^^ I know that "they all wanted him" and "it was a unanimous decision" is what was released, and if that's truly the case then you are 100% correct.

The suspicion is that Mitch is holding the company line and Jerry is letting his son spread his wings without daddy consistently trumping him.

But again, this is 100% speculation so maybe it's unfair to direct so much ire at Jim since no one knows the truth.

As far a Phil, I think you're reading to literally into comments made by a man who has made a career of playing the media.

IMO, Phil is only interested in jobs that will bring a chip and further his legacy. In his opinion the Lakers provided this opportunity and right now there inst another open coaching job that does.
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:24 pm

Exactly, the dynamic in the FO that Jim has full rein just really is all speculation.

Do you guys really think Jerry would allow his son to have full control of a 100 million dollar budget and what his quite literally the livelihood of that family? Do you think Jerry would just give control over to the guy without having any control whatsoever?

In fact, when Brown was fired many people thought it was Jerry would made the final call. You guys don't think Jerry would then have a say in D'Antoni's hiring? Things just don't add up when we as fans start making those assumptions about the front office.

As for Phil, from everything that I've heard and read, you're right. Phil isn't going to come back unless there's an extremely high probability of success, but isn't that the problem? If he's not willing to come back unless the road is easy, then he's not ready to come back. He's mentally done with coaching. We saw that in 2011. I know we all want the greatnesss that was his run with this team back, but he doesn't have it anymore. When the Lakers approached him he should have said without hesitation: "I want this team, I can make them a Champion." Instead he needed a few days to mull things over? To me, that means he's done. To me, that means he isn't up for the job.
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Postby TIME on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:25 pm

Kasumi wrote:Lakers fans aren't panicking, we're pissed off.
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