FabFourLakers wrote:I'd LOVE to have Barbosa here and find a way to cast off Blake and Duhon next summer....
Even if we can't send them both packing, I'd still want Barbosa here. He is far and away the better player and he can get in the lane, unlike Blake who will just be hesitant the whole time he has the ball. Barbosa is also MUCH faster than Blake, and more athletic. I'd love to see Barbosa, Meeks, Ebanks on the break...fast and athletic trio right there...
I have confidence in our bench but signing Barbosa would just be icing on the cake...not to mention he has played with Nash before and had some of his best years with him. He can still shoot the 3 ball, which I'd welcome on this team. God knows we need as many guys taht can knock it down now that we have Howard and Nash on the squad. Plus u always have to think about DEPTH....if Kobe or Nash were to go down, Barbosa can fill in for either of them at the 1 or 2....I trust him over some 2nd year players....
khmrP wrote:therealdeal wrote:khmrP wrote:if he's willing to come for vet min who cares if Duhon/Blake are still here.....better then wasting a spot on some 2nd rder who might or might not do much at all in this league. Although DJO might be some what of a costly mistake seeing as how they bought his pick for 500k.
I suppose so, but then what do you do with Blake? Just put him in a 4 million dollar suit for 2 years? I don't know. It's not my money, but I don't see that as likely.
I'd like it, but I still don't think it's likely. I think the Lakers spent their money on Jodie and they're going to roll with that.
I dont know if you read a recent report by Eric Pincus, but according to him it doesn't sound like it would be difficult to move blake for nothing or a 2nd rd picks, based on how I interpret it mgmt hasn't traded him yet because they dont see any better option currently on the team. I'd say Barbosa could constitute as that better option, I mean if I was mgmt. I rather spend the 1.2 mill or whatever on a vet then waste 700k on DJO/Glock who wouldn't play at all. Having to much "talent" is a good problem to have, you never know when that key injury hits, I mean Blake pulled a rib muscle or whatever last season w/o even doing much.
therealdeal wrote:khmrP wrote:therealdeal wrote:khmrP wrote:if he's willing to come for vet min who cares if Duhon/Blake are still here.....better then wasting a spot on some 2nd rder who might or might not do much at all in this league. Although DJO might be some what of a costly mistake seeing as how they bought his pick for 500k.
I suppose so, but then what do you do with Blake? Just put him in a 4 million dollar suit for 2 years? I don't know. It's not my money, but I don't see that as likely.
I'd like it, but I still don't think it's likely. I think the Lakers spent their money on Jodie and they're going to roll with that.
I dont know if you read a recent report by Eric Pincus, but according to him it doesn't sound like it would be difficult to move blake for nothing or a 2nd rd picks, based on how I interpret it mgmt hasn't traded him yet because they dont see any better option currently on the team. I'd say Barbosa could constitute as that better option, I mean if I was mgmt. I rather spend the 1.2 mill or whatever on a vet then waste 700k on DJO/Glock who wouldn't play at all. Having to much "talent" is a good problem to have, you never know when that key injury hits, I mean Blake pulled a rib muscle or whatever last season w/o even doing much.
No, I didn't get to read that, could you link it to me? I thought I'd kept up on Eric's reports.
I don't disagree that getting Barbosa is a good thing if he's willing to come here for very limited time and to provide good depth. Right now we've got guard depth, but half of it is garbage (Duhon and Morris especially).
Alcindor wrote:therealdeal wrote:Alcindor wrote:Part of the reason there's an assist difference between Blake and Barbosa is that Blake can't create his own shot. He has to get rid of the ball and when your opponent knows that's what you're gonna do it doesn't help.
I don't understand your point. Are you saying that Blake can't score on his own so he's forced to dole out assists? I'm not sure that makes sense.
Don't see what's hard to understand, Barbosa trys to score more. Less assists as a result, he's less of a PG than a 2. Also Blake's effectiveness is hurt by the fact that opponents know he probably won't take the shot.
jadej2 wrote:
Well too bad because we should thought of that before taking Duhon in the Howard deal.

Report: Nets, Lakers, Suns talking to Leandro Barbosa
Anybody looking for a backup point guard? Leandro Barbosa is still on the market.
He’s one of those guys who thinks he deserves more but is likely only going to see veteran minimum offers. Welcome to the new CBA. But some teams are talking to him, the Brazilian guard told UOL Esporte, a publication in his native country (translation via Hoopshype).
“Among others, I’m talking with Phoenix, the Brooklyn Nets and the Los Angeles Lakers. Steve Nash even texted me because he wants me there.”
Steve Nash may want him, and I’ll give you he is a better backup point guard than Steve Blake for the Lakers, but the Lakers already have a $99 million payroll and are not going to be adding anything but minimum contracts to it. And probably not even those.
Barbosa says later in the interview he would play for the veteran minimum on a contender. If he can’t land an NBA gig, he says he would want to play in Brazil this season. But his contract would be such that an NBA team could call him up.
I bet someone picks him up before the season. Just not at the price he and his agent want.
Kobe8Fan wrote:Report: Nets, Lakers, Suns talking to Leandro Barbosa
Anybody looking for a backup point guard? Leandro Barbosa is still on the market.
He’s one of those guys who thinks he deserves more but is likely only going to see veteran minimum offers. Welcome to the new CBA. But some teams are talking to him, the Brazilian guard told UOL Esporte, a publication in his native country (translation via Hoopshype).
“Among others, I’m talking with Phoenix, the Brooklyn Nets and the Los Angeles Lakers. Steve Nash even texted me because he wants me there.”
Steve Nash may want him, and I’ll give you he is a better backup point guard than Steve Blake for the Lakers, but the Lakers already have a $99 million payroll and are not going to be adding anything but minimum contracts to it. And probably not even those.
Barbosa says later in the interview he would play for the veteran minimum on a contender. If he can’t land an NBA gig, he says he would want to play in Brazil this season. But his contract would be such that an NBA team could call him up.
I bet someone picks him up before the season. Just not at the price he and his agent want.
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wcsoldier81 wrote:Do not want ... one of the biggest ball hogs in the league (and a liability on D) ... would totally prevent any chemistry of the 2nd unit ala Shannon Brown in 2010-2011 ... different style/talent but same result ..
Even if Blake is obviously less talented and is likely to do nothing for a good number of games , I prefer him over Barbosa ... with him it's bonehead play one after the other ...

GoldenKnight wrote:He can play the PG off the bench bringing speed & 3 point shooting, for all those people who don't want Barbosa as a PG, what do you want? A passive Blake who turns the ball over every time he touches it? No way...
lakersin4 wrote:I can't believe people are really pretending Blake is a better player than Barbosa. We're talking about a guy that couldn't take the starting job from Fish, when Fish was the worst starting PG in the league. Barbosa brings quickness & slashing ability that we're currently missing. He played the majority of his career with Nash. I was a fan of the Blake signing because of how his skillset fit the needs for a triangle PG. With our roster being so stacked this season, you're crazy if you think we'll be staying within the offense. More than half of the time we will be freelancing, with Kobe or Nash calling plays after reading the defense. In an open flowing offense like we'll see, give me the Brazilian Blur every time.
wcsoldier81 wrote:lakersin4 wrote:I can't believe people are really pretending Blake is a better player than Barbosa. We're talking about a guy that couldn't take the starting job from Fish, when Fish was the worst starting PG in the league. Barbosa brings quickness & slashing ability that we're currently missing. He played the majority of his career with Nash. I was a fan of the Blake signing because of how his skillset fit the needs for a triangle PG. With our roster being so stacked this season, you're crazy if you think we'll be staying within the offense. More than half of the time we will be freelancing, with Kobe or Nash calling plays after reading the defense. In an open flowing offense like we'll see, give me the Brazilian Blur every time.
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therealdeal wrote:GoldenKnight wrote:He can play the PG off the bench bringing speed & 3 point shooting, for all those people who don't want Barbosa as a PG, what do you want? A passive Blake who turns the ball over every time he touches it? No way...
Steve Blake averaged an assist to turnover ratio of 2.36 (3.3 assists/1.4 turnovers). I'm not sure where you get the idea that he turns the ball over every time he touches it.
I want a PG that actually passes the ball. In 64 games last season Barbosa totaled 96 assists. In 53 games Steve Blake totaled 174 assists. In 64 games Barbosa had 94 turnovers. In 53 games Blake totaled 72 turnovers.
Who is the better PG?

So its Lakers and suns?Leandro Barbosa - G - Pacers The Nets do not have "serious interest" in unrestricted FA Leandro Barbosa.
Howard Beck of the NY Times called Barbosa's signing unlikely, and we'd agree with that assessment. There just doesn't seem to be any room for Barbosa on the Brooklyn roster. Related: Nets
Source: Nets Daily on Twitter Sep 12 - 8:28 AM
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