Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby The Rock on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:42 am

Because Lebron's mouth piece seems to think that might happen. If you didnt know Windorst has been following him from his Cleveland days.

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No team reloads like the Los Angeles Lakers.

Their track record of leveraging their hometown appeal and history, plus applying shrewd management, over the past 30 years is virtually without peer.

With their latest coups -- the stunning Steve Nash sign-and-trade and a victory in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes -- just now coming together for the first time, could the Lakers already be plotting out the next one?

Opposing executives think so. As teams continue their long-range planning and work up opposition strategies, the Lakers remain just as much a threat in the transaction game as they are on the court.

Several teams' executives have told ESPN.com they believe the Lakers are positioning themselves to make a run at LeBron James in 2014, when the Miami Heat star can choose to become a free agent.


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Recently, Kobe Bryant told CBSSports.com that he sees himself playing only two more seasons (2012-13 and 2013-14) and then retiring at age 35. Bryant said similar things in an interview with Yahoo! Sports over the summer.

Bryant has two years left on his contract, and next season he is scheduled to become just the second player ever to earn more than $30 million in a season. The other was Michael Jordan.

Whether or not you believe the ultra-competitive Bryant will follow through with that retirement plan, his statements seem to be a sign that a contract extension or new contract is no sure thing.

In the wake of the Howard trade, much as been made of the massive luxury-tax bill the Lakers are facing next season if they're able to re-sign the big man. ESPN.com salary cap expert Larry Coon has estimated the Lakers could be on the hook for as much as $85 million just in taxes in 2013-14.

But look a little further, to that 2014-15 season, and you'll see something else: The Lakers' projected payroll is almost completely clear. Only Nash is signed for that season, at $9.7 million, though the Lakers will also be paying about $20 million to Howard if they can re-sign him this coming summer.

In July 2013, Bryant's $30.4 million, Pau Gasol's $19.2 million, Metta World Peace's $7.7 million, Steve Blake's $4 million and Jordan Hill's $3.5 million will come off the books. There likely won't even be any first-round draft picks filling up the cap, either, as the Lakers have already traded their 2013 first-round pick to Phoenix in the Nash deal.



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Opposing teams that are making their own long-range free agency plans think they see the Lakers' plan coming into focus. As it stands, L.A. will have enough cap space to add a superstar like James.

"It's not a mistake that all those deals end the same year Kobe's does. They have probably been planning for their next phase for a while," said one general manager. "The Busses and [Lakers GM] Mitch [Kupchak] are always thinking about the next big deal."

No one knows this better than Bryant himself, who has been the beneficiary of the Lakers' aggressive maneuvers for 16-plus years.

"I knew how much the Buss family, Jeanie and so forth, wanted to turn it around," Bryant told CBSSports.com. "I've seen them do it. They rebuilt first by picking up Shaq. ... Then that era was over and they rebuilt again. And now they've rebuilt again. I've seen them do it before."


If Bryant does move on after 18 seasons, as he has openly talked about, they may be ready to do it again.

Whether or not James would be interested in listening to a Lakers offer in two years is impossible to predict now. Remember, in 2008, it was hard to see James ending up in Miami in 2010 even though Heat president Pat Riley, a product of the Lakers' way of thinking, was already preparing to make it happen.

At the moment, the Heat are loaded and poised to be title contenders for the next two seasons.

James is signed through 2016, but he can end his contract in either 2014 or 2015 if he wishes to. He has recently said that he's not thought about his contract decision in 2014, even though he recently switched agents. But observers around the league expect James to opt out of his contract in 2014, no matter what happens with the Heat over the next two seasons. That doesn't mean he won't stay in Miami, but it does mean he might be in play again.


"The agent part probably doesn't matter. LeBron is the best player in the league and he's making less than the max, so unless he's seriously hurt he's going to opt out in 2014, if only because I would assume he wants and deserves to get a true max," said one league executive. "Even if the Heat win the next two titles there's a feeling that LeBron is going to become a free agent in two years no matter what."

Just as during the period from 2008 to 2010, James' free agent plans will probably become a big topic over the next 21 months. They will definitely be a part of various teams' long-term cap planning. Presumably, that list of teams includes the Lakers.

Meanwhile, keep an eye on Chris Paul, LeBron's best friend in the NBA. James has wanted to team up with CP3 for seven years or more. In 2005, when Paul was about to be drafted, James asked the Cavs to attempt to move up to get Paul, but the Cavs did not have the assets to pull off such a trade.

Paul and James have only grown closer since, playing together on Team USA four times since 2006 and winning gold medals in 2008 and last summer. Paul will be a free agent in 2013, and his situation could influence James' plans a year later.

In any case, the Lakers are positioning themselves to be major players again, post-Bryant. Based on their long track record, there's no reason to believe they won't aim for the biggest star possible. In 2014, that likely will be LeBron James.
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby The Rock on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:47 am

Other notable 2014 free agents

Wade, Andre Iguodala, Monta Ellis, OJ Mayo, Carmelo Anthony, Rudy Gay, Danny Granger, Luol Deng, Dirk, Pau, Amare, Zach Randolph, Gortat, Bogut,
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Postby revgen on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:51 am

Kobe didn't say 2 years. He said 2 or 3 years. It could be 2014 or 2015.
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby The Rock on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:02 am

Can you imagine if Pau, Nash and Kobe took role player salaries for one last year...

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Dwight


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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:03 am

I think Kobe may be open to a big dollar "rock star" Euro tour for a couple of years as opposed to taking the huge pay cut needed here. Then the "intuitive" guy will have to learn to write Italian to troll fans over there :man10:
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby therealdeal on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:03 am

1. How would ESPN slob on James's junk if he's a part of the hated Lakers?
2. I hate the man right now and want to beat him in the Finals over the next 2 years. Badly.

3. If he opts out in 2014, I'd say there's a 55% he's a Laker. They'd have the cap space to through the max at him. I imagine they'll have had to lose to us at least once. Wade is nearing incapacitation and the chance to play with the 2nd most dominant physical presence in the league may be too much to pass up.

4. As much as I dislike him now, if he were to join this team and was still in a position to win the Lakers some rings... Welcome aboard.
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:06 am

therealdeal wrote:1. How would ESPN slob on James's junk if he's a part of the hated Lakers?
2. I hate the man right now and want to beat him in the Finals over the next 2 years. Badly.

3. If he opts out in 2014, I'd say there's a 55% he's a Laker. They'd have the cap space to through the max at him. I imagine they'll have had to lose to us at least once. Wade is nearing incapacitation and the chance to play with the 2nd most dominant physical presence in the league may be too much to pass up.

4. As much as I dislike him now, if he were to join this team and was still in a position to win the Lakers some rings... Welcome aboard.


Well.....yeah....but where is that cartoon of where the sweat band will be sitting on his head in a few years.... :man4: :man10:
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby XXIV on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:08 am

LTLakerFan wrote:
therealdeal wrote:1. How would ESPN slob on James's junk if he's a part of the hated Lakers?
2. I hate the man right now and want to beat him in the Finals over the next 2 years. Badly.

3. If he opts out in 2014, I'd say there's a 55% he's a Laker. They'd have the cap space to through the max at him. I imagine they'll have had to lose to us at least once. Wade is nearing incapacitation and the chance to play with the 2nd most dominant physical presence in the league may be too much to pass up.

4. As much as I dislike him now, if he were to join this team and was still in a position to win the Lakers some rings... Welcome aboard.


Well.....yeah....but where is that cartoon of where the sweat band will be sitting on his head in a few years.... :man4: :man10:


As as long as he's still playing at a high level he can wear anything he wants. :man10:
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby easyguy on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:08 am

The Rock wrote:Can you imagine if Pau, Nash and Kobe took role player salaries for one last year...

Nash
Kobe
Lebron
Pau
Dwight


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That year record will be 80-1
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby nthydro on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:08 am

Yes finally! I've been waiting for the sequel to The Decision. Hopefully it's better than the first one.
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:23 am

I say we have a 33% chance....He's either going to re-up in Miami, come to LA or go back to Cleveland.

He can come to LA, team up with D12 and another star player to be named....

He can stay in Miami, try to reload after Wade falls apart......

He can go back to Cleveland, pair up with Kyrie and try to recruit a PF/C to come over (Hibbert/Love/M.Gasol/LMA)....

The man has some options
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby LAKEROC on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:32 am

The Rock wrote:Can you imagine if Pau, Nash and Kobe took role player salaries for one last year...

Nash
Kobe
Lebron
Pau
Dwight


:man10:


Nash is signed for 3 years, so he would be on that last year of his deal. Pau is somebody I definitely could see taking the MLE when his deal is up to stay in LA to stay in LA. He loves Los Angeles, and doesn't want to leave, and if we could get him on a MLE type of deal, we should! Kobe is the real problem here. In a perfect world, he would sign a 1 year VET MINIMUM deal(come on, how much more money does the man need), and then retire from the Lakers. It would be a nice "farewell letter" to the fans and the organization. Yes, as crazy as it seems, that starting lineup is conceivably possible. Unfortunately, I just can't see Bryant coming into the arena that he built, and being(likely in 2014), the 3rd best player on the court, and taking a vet minimum deal. Believe me, I wish he would, however, I just don't believe his ego won't allow that. However, if he could suck it up for just 1 year, it could be the greatest team ever assembled in professional basketball.

Nash-Kobe-James-Gasol-Howard.

If...a HUGE HUGE IF, but IF Kobe and Pau took VET minimum deals, and Chris Paul took a QO in 2013, and became a free agent in 2014. The Lakers would have enough cap space(even with maxing out Dwight Howard) to sign both Chris Paul and Dwight Howard.
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Postby last stand on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:36 am

Doc Brown wrote:I say we have a 33% chance....He's either going to re-up in Miami, come to LA or go back to Cleveland.

He can come to LA, team up with D12 and another star player to be named....

He can stay in Miami, try to reload after Wade falls apart......

He can go back to Cleveland, pair up with Kyrie and try to recruit a PF/C to come over (Hibbert/Love/M.Gasol/LMA)....

The man has some options


If he doesn't win another title between now and 2014 I think tstaying in Miami may make him 1 and done. Going to LA would give him a chance at 3-4
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Postby noobiew on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:38 am

In two more years Lebron will be like 30, do you still want him?
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Postby juninho on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:42 am

btw when we reload in 2014 all moves will be make for another reload in 2019 when d12's and other star's contract expires. Mitch planned this all in 2009 before he resigns Kobe&Gasol.
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Postby LAKEROC on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:46 am

^ Yes I do. He has a lot less mileage than Kobe, and he's a freak of nature athletically. You put a 30 year old James with a 29 year old Howard, and then a MAX player point guard....nobody will ever notice Kobe Bryant retiring. James is the ONLY player in the league who has that amount of clout and star power. If this ever becomes a viable option, you make it happen. Especially when your franchise player is retiring the same year. No brainer!
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Postby Lets Go Lakers on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:51 am

It all depends on what the Heat do for the next 2 years. If they win rings and are a great team, no way would he give that up just to come to LA. He's trying to build on his legacy and the most important thing is the ring. Why would he risk everything if they are winning rings? Now if they aren't winning rings, then i could definitely see it happening.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:53 am

LAKEROC wrote:^ Yes I do. He has a lot less mileage than Kobe, and he's a freak of nature athletically. You put a 30 year old James with a 29 year old Howard, and then a MAX player point guard....nobody will ever notice Kobe Bryant retiring. James is the ONLY player in the league who has that amount of clout and star power. If this ever becomes a viable option, you make it happen. Especially when your franchise player is retiring the same year. No brainer!

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Postby Lets Go Lakers on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:54 am

lakerswiz wrote:He will opt out. I guarantee it. More money. Longer contract. It's just smart business.


Umm, no. He makes more money through endorsements than basketball. What's most important for him is winning rings. If the Heat are still winning rings after 2014, no way would he opt out.
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Postby noobiew on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:57 am

Lets Go Lakers wrote:
lakerswiz wrote:He will opt out. I guarantee it. More money. Longer contract. It's just smart business.


Umm, no. He makes more money through endorsements than basketball. What's most important for him is winning rings. If the Heat are still winning rings after 2014, no way would he opt out.


Play with a 28 yrs old prime Dwight Howard or a 33 years old Wade and a 31 Bosh? you choose

Lebron gotta make a wise sense career choice lol :)
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby West on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:58 am

From what I know/remember of the CBA...

1. If James opts out to sign with a team other then MIA, James WAY gets less money (less year(s)). Strike one against LAL.

2. If James demands a trade to LAL after opting out (via S&T), Riles will NEVER trade him to Mitch. NEVER. Strike two.

3. If James demands a trade to LAL before the deadline (ala D12 to BRK), LAL won't have the moving pieces of value to get it done. Strike three.

Of course, both Riles and Mitch are ninjas... so... who really knows.
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Re: Lakers looking to add Lebron as Kobe's heir in 2014?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:00 am

noobiew wrote:
Lets Go Lakers wrote:
lakerswiz wrote:He will opt out. I guarantee it. More money. Longer contract. It's just smart business.


Umm, no. He makes more money through endorsements than basketball. What's most important for him is winning rings. If the Heat are still winning rings after 2014, no way would he opt out.


Play with a 28 yrs old prime Dwight Howard or a 33 years old Wade and a 31 Bosh? you choose

Lebron gotta make a wise sense career choice lol :)


If they are winning rings, he will stay with the Heat. That's the bottom line.
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