Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby hollywood swinger on Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:48 am

We should be developing a steve nash protege imo. we need a great ball handling shooter with speed and passing skills in order to keep his flow if he goes down and in the future when he is old so MDA can still run his system.
now i understand there are not just nash clones laying around the league but we should take a DJO and have him
actually try to study and simply copy nash style of play. If that doesn't work i would trade Gasol for a ball dominant pg who has those same attributes i listed earlier and have him essentially study under nash. I would love a Gasol for a B. jennings but not sure it could work. forget a stretch 4 we need a nash clone 1st and foremost.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby JGC on Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:52 am

Thanks!
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby trodgers on Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:55 am

I like the idea of grooming a PG of the future, and if we could find someone with Nash-lite skills, that would be great.

But DJO? He average under 3 assists per game (and I think more TO than assists) in college, and I just don't know what he has anywhere near the handles or floor vision to do the work.

One more thought: I don't think that having a Nash clone backup PG is what we need right now. If we lost Gasol from this team in order to pickup a PG, that wouldn't be the brightest move. And when I think of Nash clones, Brandon Jennings doesn't crack the list. He's a volume shooter at the PG spot.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby LAKEROC on Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:03 am

We're just going to MAX OUT Kyrie Irving when his deal up with Cleveland, so don't fret about it. He'll be great to run D'Antoni's system if he is still coaching the Lakers then.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Mastermixer8 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:00 pm

I like the idea but I think we should just develop a Shaq clone instead. Imagine how dominate a Shaq clone would be in this leage with no true centers.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby basketboy on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:02 pm

LAKEROC wrote:We're just going to MAX OUT Kyrie Irving when his deal up with Cleveland, so don't fret about it. He'll be great to run D'Antoni's system if he is still coaching the Lakers then.


what happened to john wall?
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:03 pm

basketboy wrote:
LAKEROC wrote:We're just going to MAX OUT Kyrie Irving when his deal up with Cleveland, so don't fret about it. He'll be great to run D'Antoni's system if he is still coaching the Lakers then.


what happened to john wall?


Or Ricky Rubio?
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Lakerjones on Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:42 pm

It's too bad that we weren't able to hang onto Sessions. He'd be a great guy to understudy with Nash. But if we had him then likely we wouldn't have gone after Nash. Ah well.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Helljumper on Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:51 pm

Definitely agree (EDIT: Lol, I don't agree that this should be a #1 priority, but it would be a good idea to be on the lookout for young PG prospects for Nash to groom if possible, like in a Pau trade for example) Yeah, we could just wait until Nash retires and then try using our cap-space on an elite PG, but I'd much rather we try and find someone right now that Nash can mold into a great back-up and then eventually a starter (ala Dragic)
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby OX1947 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:05 pm

This isnt the NFL brah. Hall of Fame, MVP talent is even more rare then lottery winners. You need luck in the draft lottery or you do what the Lakers do, mind (bleep) GMs around the league to trade them to you for nothing.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby LAKEROC on Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:09 pm

I'll be happy with either of the three. Given the Wall injury this year, its diminished my attitude a bit on him, but he can prove me wrong, if he comes back strong. I do think he has the potential to be the best of the point guards, but he has to learn to shoot better from the perimeter, and make better decisions off the ball. I like Kyrie's toughness, and I see a real winner mentality in him. I do also like Ricky Rubio a lot, and I would be completely fine if the Lakers went after him in the future, if the other two aren't viable options.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby borri on Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:13 pm

basketboy wrote:
LAKEROC wrote:We're just going to MAX OUT Kyrie Irving when his deal up with Cleveland, so don't fret about it. He'll be great to run D'Antoni's system if he is still coaching the Lakers then.


what happened to john wall?


Wall is toeing the "bust label" line.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby purp n gold on Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:18 pm

If there was a Nash protege on our roster, we would have known by now. This hypothetical player would have shown himself when MDA was grasping for straws when Steve was out.

Morris, DJO, Goudelock, whatever... they're not Nash "clones". Only reasonable protege Nash has had is Goran Dragic, he's just above-average IMO.

If we want to truly groom someone under Nash, a talent upgrade at PG will be needed first and foremost
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby D.B. Cooper on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:09 pm

I hear J Critt has a high IQ and is available.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Lakeshow24 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:15 pm

#1 Priority should be WIN NOW. After that, I guess they're grooming D Morris?
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Alcindor on Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:51 pm

hollywood swinger wrote:.... simply copy nash style of play....


Simple.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Armani on Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:57 pm

Yes, because MVP level impact players can be groomed and cloned. :man3:

DJO and Morris are fringe rotation players... they don't have the potential to be Steve Nash. :man10:

The Lakers will find something once Nash retires... but he won't be anywhere near as good as Nash. We're talking about a once in a generation type playmaking talent here.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:52 pm

Alcindor wrote:
hollywood swinger wrote:.... simply copy nash style of play....


Simple.


I say we groom him to be that good but also taller and stronger and better on D and then we're really covered.

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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby trodgers on Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:55 pm

C'mon, guys. He did say that he knows it's hard to do it...but while we're doing genetic engineering, can he also be more athletic? :man1:
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby hollywood swinger on Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:45 pm

Alcindor wrote:
hollywood swinger wrote:.... simply copy nash style of play....


Simple.


well i actually think you can mimic a players style. one good thing is your not asking a guy to mimic off the charts freak athletic ability just a style. i know vision is a big part of nash game but that can be developed
if your playing in that mindset.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby hollywood swinger on Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:51 pm

trodgers wrote:C'mon, guys. He did say that he knows it's hard to do it...but while we're doing genetic engineering, can he also be more athletic? :man1:


thats why i think it is doable because nash isn't some freak of nature athlete. i would make that player if obtained do everything nash does even his pregame shooting ritual and watching tons of video of him.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Weezy on Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:55 pm

If you could just make a Nash clone everyone would do it. You can't just do it because Nash has things that cannot be taught, natural instincts, incredible court vision, and the passing ability that comes from those things. You can't teach that, it's why he's such a special player. Only thing he has that you can teach is his shooting form, and even then there's no guarantee the person will be able to shoot it the exact same way with excellent form every time like Nash does.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby LOL on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:09 pm

right now theres only rubio. would go max on him.
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:10 pm

Lakeshow24 wrote:#1 Priority should be WIN NOW. After that, I guess they're grooming D Morris?



Amazing..... these two short statements elicit very strong emotions in me.... Excitement and overwhelming dread...

How about developing a Kobe Clone..... and no one better say Ebanks...... :man10:
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Re: Lakers #1 priority should be develop a Nash clone

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:14 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
Lakeshow24 wrote:#1 Priority should be WIN NOW. After that, I guess they're grooming D Morris?



Amazing..... these two short statements elicit very strong emotions in me.... Excitement and overwhelming dread...

How about developing a Kobe Clone..... and no one better say Ebanks...... :man10:


Earl Clark then?
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