kblo247 wrote:Rooscooter wrote:^^Lamar's been out of shape for 2 years..... and he hasn't been injured or otherwise impeded from being in shape. That's a mental issue. He's "playing out the string" and hangin' with the celebs. He want's to be in LA for obvious reasons..... and none of them have to do with basketball.
As for Lamar being better than Hill.... who care's if he brings a little more? I don't think he can anyway but let's say he can..... next year is a year for rebuilding, developing and getting better. Lamar isn't going to do any of those things. The odds of him being better than the last two years are very slim IMO. Age and disinterest have basically retired him..... he's just hanging on for the cash.
If Hill can develop more in starters minutes that is better than putting Lamar out there just to get a few extra people in the seats IMHO.
First lets be real there's no question lamar will give you more, he's just better and more durable you can't question his metrics or his ability to get on the court and play minutes in comparison.
I really think people are overlooking things. Yes he ain't in the same shape, buy in Dallas he was the backup SF to Marion. As a clipper he truly was Jordan's backup and used as a defensive big ala Kenyon as he played more with Blake.
To say he can't bring more under dantoni playing a point forward role at PF like he played under Phil, in miami, and how Diaw was used in Phoenix is short sided. Lamar closed the all star break to season end playing better than Clark, he literally played better as the year went on and improved from the year before while logging more minutes and games than hill has ever held up to. He would cost a fifth the money and improve the team, it's no argument that you logically should be against that. You want the youth to learn how to win from a good glue guy, a champion, a gold medalist, and arguably the second best ever pf for the lakers behind Mikkelson at the vet min especially when Pau's beat play of his career was with him.
I CAN question a lot of things about Lamar.... I have been for several posts in this thread. Short sighted is not really looking at what he's become the last two seasons and believing that a system that you have hated and a coach you have hated can now revive his career back into the player we saw 3 years ago. If you remember correctly he stunk in the playoffs his last season here pretty bad as well under the God of coaches..... So now MDA's system is the answer.
It's my contention that he's done. We "sold" at just the right time with him.
His mental approach is far more important than what offense he plays in or how many games he plays..... If he mentally still wanted to play he would be in shape year round.... he'd be performing at a much higher level. 39% shooting for a guy that had been shooting around 50% for several years in a row is evidence enough that his desire is gone. Add to that the weight and age and he's never going to be that player we saw 3 years ago ever again.
Next year is a lost year..... we all know it...... he knows it. Here's the thing that's telling IMO. If he is interested in winning he'd go back to Miami or sign with the Clips..... not even consider the Lakers. He wants to be in LA for reasons that have nothing to do with basketball and he will be here next year whether or not he's playing basketball...... because his focus in not on basketball. If he can get someone to pay for it then he can make some money while not being focused on basketball. Lamar couldn't even make through an entire season focused in his prime when he was on a championship team.