LQOTD: Best LA Pick of Last Five Years?

trodgers · by **trodgers** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:15 am

Pretty straightforward Lakers Question of the Day:

Who's the best from the following list (and you might rule out Douglas, as he seems to have been a NY selection)?

2012: Robert Sacre
2011: Darius Morris, Andrew Goudelock, Chukwudiebere Maduabum, After Majok
2010: Devin Ebanks, Derrick Caracter
2009: Toney Douglas, Patrick Beverly, Chinemelu Elonu
2008: Joe Crawford

John3:16 · by **John3:16** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:25 am

Ebanks gets the nod over that distinguished list of future all-stars. However, I don't think much of Ebanks. I wish G-lock could've stuck around. I think he could've stretched the floor in MDA's offense.

JGC · by **JGC** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:29 am

I still like Andrew Goudelock.

Doc Brown · by **Doc Brown** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:39 am

Glock >>>> Morris > Ebanks > Sacre

LooN3y · by **LooN3y** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:54 am

mike brown is a fool. is morris that much better than glock defensively?

Texas Lakers Fan · by **Texas Lakers Fan** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:56 am

Darius Morris.

trodgers · by **trodgers** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:00 am

Pretty sad list, to be honest.

I really like Goudelock, but he's shooting like garbage in the D'League, and he sure didn't get it together in the NBA.

Phil XI · by **Phil XI** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:02 am

Is this a trick question?
Obviously, its Douglas, who has been in an NBA rotation on a regular basis.
Too bad LA was picking him for another GM, who could actually see the talent.

JGC · by **JGC** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:03 am

Phil XI wrote:Is this a trick question?
Obviously, its Douglas, who has been in an NBA rotation on a regular basis.
Too bad LA was picking him for another GM, who could actually see the talent.

Well, I think there are others who think players like Goudelock could, have higher upside than Douglas.

The Rock · by **The Rock** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:08 am

Definitely Douglas. Glock would be a close 2nd

therealdeal · by **therealdeal** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:12 am

So does Darius Johnson-Odom not count since we bought his pick?

trodgers · by **trodgers** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:20 am

^ That's a fair question. I guess just like maybe Douglas shouldn't count for us, maybe DJO should count for us. Is DJO better than Glock, Morris, and Ebanks?

JGC · by **JGC** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:20 am

therealdeal wrote:So does Darius Johnson-Odom not count since we bought his pick?

Well, I think he doesn't count because we didn't draft him. We traded for him. We didn't trade for the pick and then draft him. Dallas drafted him, and then we traded for him, right?

therealdeal · by **therealdeal** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:23 am

trodgers wrote:^ That's a fair question. I guess just like maybe Douglas shouldn't count for us, maybe DJO should count for us. Is DJO better than Glock, Morris, and Ebanks?

Hm... I might put him above those guys :man10:

without even seeing him play more than 10 minutes as an NBA player I might put him above Morris or Ebanks.

I'm not as enamored with Goudelock as everyone else is. The guy was one of the worst defenders in the league when he played. He was okay as a PG, but truly detrimental as a SG. And since he can't create for others at an NBA level he was a bad PG too. I think DJO has a chance to be much better than Goudelock.

If DJO doesn't count (and you're right he probably shouldn't if we keep Douglas out) then I'm going with *gulp* Ebanks. I'm sick of the kid and I think he squandered away some real potential to be a solid role player, but he's the best out of the group thus far. I think Morris can probably pass him though and Goudelock if he ever gets back into the league can too.

LooN3y · by **LooN3y** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:51 am

therealdeal wrote:
trodgers wrote:^ That's a fair question. I guess just like maybe Douglas shouldn't count for us, maybe DJO should count for us. Is DJO better than Glock, Morris, and Ebanks?

Hm... I might put him above those guys without even seeing him play more than 10 minutes as an NBA player I might put him above Morris or Ebanks.

I'm not as enamored with Goudelock as everyone else is. The guy was one of the worst defenders in the league when he played. He was okay as a PG, but truly detrimental as a SG. And since he can't create for others at an NBA level he was a bad PG too. I think DJO has a chance to be much better than Goudelock.

If DJO doesn't count (and you're right he probably shouldn't if we keep Douglas out) then I'm going with *gulp* Ebanks. I'm sick of the kid and I think he squandered away some real potential to be a solid role player, but he's the best out of the group thus far. I think Morris can probably pass him though and Goudelock if he ever gets back into the league can too.

i mean if glock played the PG is there really much a difference with morris? it doesnt seem like creates really.

the only "creating" he does is drive and kick it out to meeks, im sure glock can do that

therealdeal · by **therealdeal** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:06 am

The difference between Morris and Goudelock defensively is the difference between a 100 year old redwood tree and a potted flower.

Morris's defense ranges from good to great. Goudelock's ranges from utterly dreadful to not very good.

Offensively, Morris is actually doing an adequate job of spacing the floor which is really all that Goudelock would do here. But the difference there wouldn't be enough to make up for Morris's contributions on defense.

JGC · by **JGC** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:29 am

therealdeal wrote:The difference between Morris and Goudelock defensively is the difference between a 100 year old redwood tree and a potted flower.

Morris's defense ranges from good to great. Goudelock's ranges from utterly dreadful to not very good.

Offensively, Morris is actually doing an adequate job of spacing the floor which is really all that Goudelock would do here. But the difference there wouldn't be enough to make up for Morris's contributions on defense.

Good and fair points. The added bonus on Morris is with his height we can stick him on SGs when the situation calls for it.

432J · by **432J** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:34 am

that list

it's obviously douglas, but unfortunately he was drafted for the knicks. i'd say morris but i really do wish they had kept glock just for his offense. too bad the idiot mike brown had to ruin that. and i still want to know, why the hell did they draft Chukwudiebere Maduabum? :man10:

i think i remember when they drafted him he was averaging .5 ppg in the d league

therealdeal · by **therealdeal** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:50 am

JGC wrote:
therealdeal wrote:The difference between Morris and Goudelock defensively is the difference between a 100 year old redwood tree and a potted flower.

Morris's defense ranges from good to great. Goudelock's ranges from utterly dreadful to not very good.

Offensively, Morris is actually doing an adequate job of spacing the floor which is really all that Goudelock would do here. But the difference there wouldn't be enough to make up for Morris's contributions on defense.

Good and fair points. The added bonus on Morris is with his height we can stick him on SGs when the situation calls for it.

True. And Goudelock's defense on SGs was even worse than his defense on PGs.

Frank Dux · by **Frank Dux** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:14 pm

Did the Lakers do the impossible? 5 drafts and maybe only one rotation player?

:man10:

Rooscooter · by **Rooscooter** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:55 pm

Douglas is the best we've picked even if it was NY's choice. I think of that group the best player we had on the court was Caracter..... he's a head case but he had the most potential of any of those picks IMHO. The stupid stuff he did in Dallas and his injury killed his chances yet somehow we still have Ebanks.....

Of the ones still on the roster I guess Ebanks has contributed the most.... and that's not saying much is it?.... :man10:

JGC · by **JGC** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:59 pm

Frank Dux wrote:Did the Lakers do the impossible? 5 drafts and maybe only one rotation player?

We traded away all of our picks though. We turned picks in to Jordan Hill, Ramon Sessions, etc.

Rooscooter · by **Rooscooter** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:00 pm

JGC wrote:
Frank Dux wrote:Did the Lakers do the impossible? 5 drafts and maybe only one rotation player?

We traded away all of our picks though. We turned picks in to Jordan Hill, Ramon Sessions, etc.

Yes.... they were the grease that helped us throw away Fisher and Luke.....

Rooscooter · by **Rooscooter** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:06 pm

Since the Magic Era we've only make a hand full of decent picks.... Campbell, Van Exel, Jones, Bynum, Fisher and Gasol. Peeler and Lynch had multi year careers as well. After that it's pretty thin.....

khmrP · by **khmrP** on Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:11 pm

Frank Dux wrote:Did the Lakers do the impossible? 5 drafts and maybe only one rotation player?

what do you expect out of 2nd rders? and I dont think Douglas should cout

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