raviator wrote:I agree that Pau doesn't fit this system with Dwight. But here's the thing I worry about if we do trade Pau now: if Dwight decides for whatever reason he doesn't like L.A., we're left with Sacre as our low post threat.
therealdeal wrote:He's checked out mentally. He's done as a Laker. He's being openly defiant and he's clearly not going to work to make the team better the way that's necessary.
He absolutely needs to go. I don't care if we're going to get better value next season as an expiring, it's crucial right now to get rid of him before his attitude kills our playoff chances.
MC wrote:ya..... not time yet.
Next year when his value is at it's highest as an expiring is the right time to trade him....
why should he given the total amount of disrespect he's been given since the post Phil era...
MC wrote:Roos - you have a point with some of that but at the same time the philosophy brought in post Jackson era has never had the thought of trying to use Gasol in an effective manner..... you suggesting it has?
It's not 2K13....when a player feels like he's being overlooked it will have an effect on his overall play..... that's not exactly rocket science and it is not just isolated to Gasol.
This team might lose Howard too based on how this team is operating within the offensive flow....than what? would Howard be a bum than? what about if Gasol plays well after he trade? than what? when will it be the coaches turn to fall on his sword? how many examples of coaching stints do you need to form a pattern on the coach himself?
My gut is that Gasol will get dumped as a tax saving device more than anything significant in return.... maybe a loaner that gives them their luxury tax break. This team is stuck right now and the sharks will be circling soon enough when trade talks heat up.
MC wrote:Roos - I guess really in the end all I'm saying is get rid of Gasol all you want, this team will still have the major tumor that needs cutting out. That tumor is the coach and his philosophy of play. getting rid of Gasol is essentially going to be treating a symptom rather than the root cause of a symptom.
These 2 coaches have been seriously flawed, everyone and their mother knows it........ that is why I will lean towards defending Gasol a bit more........ because it is clear that these two coaches are frauds and it's hard to sit here and just point at their personnel. Outside of Phoenix I guess MDA just can't find his personnel fit as a head coach..... and even than he still couldn't win with a team ideally built to do what he wants. His philosophy got beat by a better one.... a more balanced one year, after year, after year. You would be hard pressed to build a better fit for MDA than what he had with the Suns and the guy still couldn't get over the top vs better coaching with a better philosophy of play when the games really count.
Dyeggoo wrote:Gasol is still a 18/10 guy, just not on the Lakers, not with this coach and roster.
Oh, and I think I'll have to come up with a new sig.
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