JGC wrote: puffyusaf#2 wrote:
themasterphil wrote:yeah tonight and after that it will be a next game, and then next game until season ends....pathetic
Well I don't think supporting or believing in my team can turn it around is pathetic. What I find pathetic is the "crap" we call Lakers fans who bail on the team when we should be supporting them more. The LA Kings crept into the playoffs and did what no other team has ever done. The stealers a few seasons back crept into the playoffs and won. Until the time the LA Lakers are ruled out of the playoffs then I'll believe they can win. Pathetic? Sure you may think so but I disagree. Pathetic is spoiled fans taking a crap on their team when it gets tough....... yup, pathetic.
I never understood why supporting a team meant you have to believe the team will win every game they play. I know that's not exactly what you're saying but why can't someone be a fan of a team, and NOT believe they have or will turn the corner this season?
Many people in here have been using every reason in the book this season to say things are going to change. Howard being 100%, Nash coming back, big wins, new coach, new coach again, etc. And the team hasn't shown that any of these reasons have caused the tide to change. I get the pessimism, I understand why it is there. The team's play has caused a lot of fans to take the expect the worst, hope for the best mentality and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. As long as a person hopes for the best and not the worst, I think that that is the requirement of being a fan.
I will always root for this team to win every time they step out on the floor. Doesn't mean I think they will win every time they step out on the floor though.
Well that is simple really.... As long as my teams are "in" it I believe they can do something. While I knock all the hate the team gets I have nothing against someone who just doesn't believe he team is very good. If that is the case then why watch the team at all? Isn't the point of supporting a team believing they can win, they will win and you will see them win? Some may tag on the "blind homer" line but truth be told until the Lakers are out of it completely they have a chance to right the ship.
As for the "not being a fan" because a fan doesn't believe the team can turn the corner I never said that. The poster I responded too called my thought that we could turn the corner "pathetic" which I responded too. It really is an each his own at this point. Why support a team you don't believe in? Why watch the games at all if the only goal is to see how bad we suck? Why spend time posting in GD threads, posting in player threads of them being garbage or waisting the energy saying "I told you we suck" after every loss? That makes no sense to me. I don't get that.
Now for what you called the "excuses" all are valid in my opinion. Yes, injuries have effected this team. Yes, the changes in coaches and systems have effected this team. And yes, the lack of total team commitment as well as lack of chemistry has effected this team. Does that negate the players from their responsibility? No. However, it doesn't mean we shouldn't take those things into consideration as well. We don't simply "suck" like so many posters love to say.
I too get the pessimism. There are times where I curse every player on this team. There are times where I say I am done with this team as well. Heat of the moment (like GD thread post by most) is understandable. I just choose not to look at the end of the season as a forgone conclussion while we still have time to right the ship. Is that so wrong?