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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby kenzo on Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:42 am

But, but,we are the LAKERS. Everyone wants to play for us, even for less money and higher taxes... ohh right, looks like they don't.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:52 am

DJ-RaZ-Q#24 wrote:
OX1947 wrote:what is the rule on qualifying offer? John Wall is due for that next year. Can he decline and become a free agent?


I'd also like to know if he can decline it. Anybody knows?


Ps.: Make this the offiical Carmelo thread :man1:

He can decline it, but he'd become a RFA & Washington would match any offer. So it would probably take them having a terrible season & him having a meltdown & demanding out.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:57 am

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lakerfan2 wrote:Well, isn't D'Antoni's contract with us up in 2014 as well?


2015 I believe. He signed a 3 year deal. I don't think he lasts that long. We'll be going in a new direction next offseason. I assume that means coaching too.

I've been totally thinking this same thing. Everyone is talking like Melo won't want to come here because of MDA, well MDA more than likely won't be here after this next year unless we somehow end up really really good next year.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:34 am

Can we combine the 2 thread this is can be our new super big and long Dwight thread that goes 1000+ pages??

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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby kenzo on Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:35 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:Can we combine the 2 thread this is can be our new super big and long Dwight thread that goes 1000+ pages??

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Yes please :jam2: :man10:
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby nameant on Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:12 am

#pointless Maybe as the 3rd guy or far and away 2nd....
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:14 am

Melo hasn't matured on bit from the punk that waited for the ref to grab Nate Robinson they punched him and ran like a little girl. He's a talented scorer but that is about it. Defense, team play, BBIQ and overall sportsmanship elude this guy. He's not a winner and if he were to change it would have happened by now.

I hope this isn't a sign that we're still looking for the home run types of acquisitions. Maybe the ownership group in is financial trouble or something. All it seems we are doing is going after "names" and not actually planning a winner going forward. It seems the fear is empty seats not empty trophy cabinets.... fill the cabinet and you'll fill the seats.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:15 am

I'm sorry, and who that could be available in 2014 would that be?
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:26 am

lakerfan2 wrote:I'm sorry, and who that could be available in 2014 would that be?


Why does it have to be FA's to build with? Why does it have to be 2014? It seems that we're going to buy what ever is out there regardless of what it is. Melo is not a franchise leader.... in fact he's right there with CP3 and Howard in the category of overrated players. They get press... they get fan attention but they don't get wins when it counts.

There will be other real Superstars in the future... we went 6 years in the 90's between them and waited until a real one was available to strike. No reason to spend money next year just because we have it.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby JLaker17 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:32 am

Melo is a scorer, and thats pretty much where it ends. I would take him, primarily because of the idea of pairing him with Kobe, and another superstar. I really hope it becomes available, as this is probably one of the more likely options.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby kakafung on Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:33 am

Frank Dux wrote:
lakersin4 wrote:Melo is actually a really good defender


Lol what?

he hasn't finished yet
melo is actually a really good defender only one on one :jam2:
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby kakafung on Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:39 am

would any chance of getting him in this year rather that 2014 summer :man9:
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:42 am

Rooscooter wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:I'm sorry, and who that could be available in 2014 would that be?


Why does it have to be FA's to build with? Why does it have to be 2014? It seems that we're going to buy what ever is out there regardless of what it is. Melo is not a franchise leader.... in fact he's right there with CP3 and Howard in the category of overrated players. They get press... they get fan attention but they don't get wins when it counts.

There will be other real Superstars in the future... we went 6 years in the 90's between them and waited until a real one was available to strike. No reason to spend money next year just because we have it.


Well for one, that all of the players are off the books IN 2014. That's clear. We're not going to fill that space with wasted contracts of role players, that would take other options away in the future if we had any. We don't have any assets this year to get anything significant either.

Second, Kobe is at the tail end of his career, he may play back at the same level, or he may lose a step. But the thought is to go out with whatever he has left, not just waste it out, we don't do that.

Like I said before, the Melo's, CP3's and Howard's don't get the same rep as the Durants, Lebrons and Kobes because they've never had the same help as them. Think about it.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:59 am

King of Clutch wrote: :man10: :man10: :man10: Exactly.

Make no mistake people. Most of the people lobbying for melo want him because he's the best player that we could actually GET in 2014. Let's not start being the picky, spoiled fans that everyone already thinks we are. Why anyone would turn down melo if we COULD get him is truly beyond me.


You turn down Melo because he's going to take a significant part of your salary cap for a 4-5 years window and will result into 2nd round playoffs exit ...

If you can't get Lebron ... which is seems very likely right now , Lakers organization will have to be patient and build over several years ...
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:45 am

Chuck city? Lol J/K I can see this happening before we get LeBron, but I don't think Carmelo wants to come here either. He's in his hometown on a team he's comfortable with. He's also enjoys being the star player, also I don't think he'll fit in well with the L.A. system. With Carmelo on New York, it's much like LeBron in Cleveland, it's him producing of the offense while the role players come and go as they please. Also he still hasn't developed the ability to be a playmaker. It's all about scoring with him, we already have Kobe, but at least Kobe can be a playmaker.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby khmrP on Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:51 am

does Kobe even know the type of player he's recruiting? Melo would be a horrible fit next to Kobe, Melo not exactly Mr. team ball here.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:07 am

King of Clutch wrote:
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The Rock wrote:If Dirk can win a ring, Melo can win a ring. Theyre not perfect, theyre both flawed in some ways but they do have the intangibles you want in a superstar. They want to take the big shot and theyre not afraid of the moment.


LOL

Dirk is a top 20 player of all time and has one of the best skillsets in NBA history that makes it very easy to build around him

Melo is an inefficient ball hog that is only useful when his jump shot is on. He's nothing you want from your #1 option

Yet that inefficient ball hog has had more playoff success than Chris Paul.

Including 2009, where his nuggets dispatched BOTH Chris Paul's hornets and Dirk's Mavs in as little as 5 games each. I guess people are letting the perception of melo, cloud how good this man actually is.


Prior to this season Melo had the worst playoff win percentage in NBA history (it has probably gone up a little after this post-season), but still terrible nonetheless. His play also frequently drops off and just tries to chuck his way into wins. At least when Chris Paul loses he still goes out playing his butt off for his team and when he doesn't it's because he was badly injured.

The term "successful" should never be used in association with Carmelo Anthony. I'm dead serious I can't support this team if they think this guy is the answer to our problems.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:21 am

DJ-RaZ-Q#24 wrote:
OX1947 wrote:what is the rule on qualifying offer? John Wall is due for that next year. Can he decline and become a free agent?


I'd also like to know if he can decline it. Anybody knows?


Ps.: Make this the offiical Carmelo thread :man1:

If John Wall does not accept an extension some time this season (they can begin negotiations in October I believe) then he becomes as Restricted Free Agent in 2014.

As I understand it John believes he's worth a max contract and the Wizards want more proof before just giving it to him. But I believe the Wizards cave and give him a max extension this season worth about 80 million dollars.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby King of Clutch on Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:23 am

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
The Rock wrote:If Dirk can win a ring, Melo can win a ring. Theyre not perfect, theyre both flawed in some ways but they do have the intangibles you want in a superstar. They want to take the big shot and theyre not afraid of the moment.


LOL

Dirk is a top 20 player of all time and has one of the best skillsets in NBA history that makes it very easy to build around him

Melo is an inefficient ball hog that is only useful when his jump shot is on. He's nothing you want from your #1 option

Yet that inefficient ball hog has had more playoff success than Chris Paul.

Including 2009, where his nuggets dispatched BOTH Chris Paul's hornets and Dirk's Mavs in as little as 5 games each. I guess people are letting the perception of melo, cloud how good this man actually is.


Prior to this season Melo had the worst playoff win percentage in NBA history (it has probably gone up a little after this post-season), but still terrible nonetheless. His play also frequently drops off and just tries to chuck his way into wins. At least when Chris Paul loses he still goes out playing his butt off for his team and when he doesn't it's because he was badly injured.

The term "successful" should never be used in association with Carmelo Anthony. I'm dead serious I can't support this team if they think this guy is the answer to our problems.


At least chris paul goes out fighting. And melo doesn't? Last year he went bonkers for 41 against the miami heat in game 4 after everyone said they'd be swept, looks like a fight to me. Even this past year with a bum shoulder, he was clearly the only one doing anything. JR and felton seemed done. And it doesn't matter what the percentages say, he still has been closer to a championship than chris paul ever has. And where are you getting this myth of Melo's play falling off in the playoffs? Every year for the last 5 years melo's play has been better in the playoffs in comparison to the regular season.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby khmrP on Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:25 am

Kobe should know better, Melo is probably one of the worst fitting player you could put next to kobe.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:32 am

I don't know, that looked like Superwoman to me.
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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby chingy248 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:26 am

my body is ready

Jarrod Gillis @JarrodsNBA about 6 minutes ago

Stephen A. Smith thinks Carmelo will look to leave the Knicks after this season & the Lakers will make a push for him


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Re: Kobe and Melo meet at Pelicans Hill Resort in Newport Beach

Postby denimPortugal on Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:36 am

Here we Go! :freak2:
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby Ludachris on Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:42 am

Honestly I wouldn't mind Melo. I didn't want him at all in the past, but I really liked the way he played last season. Let's face it, we're not getting LeBron, Chris Paul, Durant, Westbrook, or anyone else that would be deemed the best players to build around. They're all staying put where they are just to start over here. The best we could do would be a player like Melo next summer, or trade for a disgruntled player or someone risky like Granger. I just don't see Melo wanting to leave the Knicks, as hard as he pushed to get there. That's his dream location.

I think the pairing of a strong SF and SG is going to be the model going forward. Everyone will try and reproduce the strengths of Miami and OKC. Maybe an athletic PF, or maybe a versatile PG that can act as a SG, but it doesn't seem like the traditional PG-focused system with talented bigs is what wins anymore. You group a couple of dynamic wing players up and run hard and play good defense, and that cancels out the speedy PG and talented big combo. Miami is built similar to the way Jordan's Bulls were built. And I think other general managers are looking to build their teams that way.

And let's not forget that big expiring contracts could be very valuable come the trade deadline, and we have a few that other teams would love to have. This could return a solid building block - probably not the "one" we build around, but a solid player that will be paired well with the guy we trade for. Start looking for teams that are planning to rebuild if this next season doesn't go well, teams that have some valuable pieces they'd part with in order to get an expiring contract back.

I just question whether or not we have the right people making the right decisions for the future.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Postby Ariza3 on Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:59 am

wow SAS says Melo leaving NY is 50-50 & coming to the lakers is 50-50
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