Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

DarthRekal · by **DarthRekal** on Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:18 pm

garbage

BDG · by **BDG** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:28 pm

Chris Broussard just asked Dwight Howard "What's your team's identity?"

And Dwight smiled and said, "We're still trying to figure that out."

LOL what a horrible coaching hire.

Weezy · by **Weezy** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:31 pm

They're not going to figure it out if they haven't yet. 'Antoni has been here long enough to create an identity for the team, unfortunately the identity is "loser". Whatever he's preached isn't getting to the players, they all have different ideas of what's best to do, the coach seems to have very little control here. And for Dwight to say stuff like that he clearly has no respect for the coach.

SpencerHarrison · by **SpencerHarrison** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:52 pm

BDG wrote:Chris Broussard just asked Dwight Howard "What's your team's identity?"

And Dwight smiled and said, "We're still trying to figure that out."

LOL what a horrible coaching hire.

To be fair, I wouldn't expect an intelligent or selfless answer out of Dwight. For as long as he's been in the league, that fool knows the right answer to that question. Just throw out anything about executing, hustling, defending, etc. Whatever.

Moron.

Vasashi17 · by **Vasashi17** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:22 pm

This hire literally killed our season....true story!

MC · by MC on Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:22 am

Vasashi17 wrote:This hire literally killed our season....true story!

My name is MC and I absolutely approve this message!

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Majority of coaches by the time they get to this level all understand the Xs and Os..... there is very little difference in that regard.

What makes or breaks a coach at this level is philosophy and ability to handle personalities....

This coach has been a fraud for a long time now, since his final year as Suns coach when Kerr tried to force him to run a more traditional lineup and offense......... unfortunately the Lakers right now have an even bigger fraud as President of Basketball Operations so instead of understanding the previous point we are doomed to repeat the mistake NY made.

Nikez · by **Nikez** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:24 pm

SpencerHarrison wrote:
BDG wrote:Chris Broussard just asked Dwight Howard "What's your team's identity?"

And Dwight smiled and said, "We're still trying to figure that out."

LOL what a horrible coaching hire.

To be fair, I wouldn't expect an intelligent or selfless answer out of Dwight. For as long as he's been in the league, that fool knows the right answer to that question. Just throw out anything about executing, hustling, defending, etc. Whatever.

Moron.

He's telling it how it is. Just because he's never PC doesn't make him a moron.

TheOp · by **TheOp** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:49 pm

Vasashi17 wrote:This hire literally killed our season....true story!

Im tired of people using this argument. Even if MDA is a horrible coach, its up to the players to at least put up somewhat of an effort. Most of our games have been pathetic, take this Clippers game the other night. Do you not think MDA was telling them to close out on the shooters? Even if he didnt mention it, its common sense. Instead we get lit up by leaving guys wide OPEN for 3 and not running back. They are just playing idiotic basketball, if they cant figure this out on their own why are they in the NBA? A casual fan with zero bball iq knows not to leave wet shooters wide open.

MDA has won 60+ games with less talent then what we have now. He does have his faults, but Dwight is a primadonna. His attitude and pathetic play have killed this teams spirit. I dont buy hes doing his part cause hes putting up decent numbers, hes way inconsistent, im talking Lamar Odom inconsistent. One night wel get a spirited active Dwight, the next hes getting dominated on the boards, getting stripped every time with the ball, making careless plays, smiling when were down 30 etc. Even if we had Phil or any different coach, Dwight is a clown and has proven this with other coaches (see Stan Van Gundy).

Vasashi17 · by **Vasashi17** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:29 pm

I'm tired of people drowning in the Nile...

Where's the Hof when you need him!

SpencerHarrison · by **SpencerHarrison** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:57 pm

To be fair, I actually think D'Antoni came in to a tough situation and has done some good things. He had the balls to move Pau into a 6th man role, and get clark with the starters. That is a MASSIVE coaching decision, and I think he made the tough, correct call.

He's also adjusted his offensive expectations and let the players work to their strengths. I can't say what's been going on behind the scenes, but this season has been chaotic and crazy enough to test even the best coaches. D'Antoni isn't the guy going forward, but he's not the joke that people make him out to be.

lakersfever · by **lakersfever** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:05 pm

like mike (brown)

sina · by **sina** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:46 pm

In MDA's system, pg is better surround by 4 capable scorers who know where they can score consistently. However, both Dwight and MWP are still fail to do this. Dwight always appears in somewhere he isn't ready to catch and dunk immediately and MWP is always trying to hit 3 pointers instead of somewhere he can score consistently. I suggest to replace either one by Pau or Jamison. Meeks is another player who doesn't know his own strength.

Besides, Dwight is a defensive center with limited scoring skill. He is better playing pick and roll with a scoring pg. However, Nash isn't a scoring pg, neither Blake. And Kobe doesn't need/like pick and roll. Thus Dwight's influence to the game are limited without a scoring pg and sharp shooters.

To me, our best lineup combinations are:

Pau
Jamison/ Clark
MWP
Bryant
Nash

(Better with a more talent SF like Paul Goerge, Deng...)

Or:
Dwight
Jamison/ Clark
?
Kobe
??

(Better with a scoring pg who need screen. This lineup also need more fire power from SF)

Tragic · by **Tragic** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:54 pm

DarthRekal wrote:garbage

purp n gold · by **purp n gold** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:15 pm

Garbage? Garbage.

TaniBoyz · by **TaniBoyz** on Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:35 am

so we're talking about garbage?
yep he's garbage

KareemTheGreat33 · by **KareemTheGreat33** on Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:49 am

It seems all the Buss' wanted to screw Phil, not just Jeannie, in the end, we all got screwed. :bang:

MC · by MC on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:09 am

The Op -

no offense but I'm not sure you could be more wrong...........

MDA has said that post play is in-efficient

Jackson runs this offense called the triple POST offense

MDA has zero rings and zero finals appearances

Jackson has more final appearances than you have fingers and a ring for every one of them including his thumbs

If you don't think that affects a big man or any stars willingness to absorb the message than you must be analyzing the situation from your PlayStation 3 or something.....

I agree with you in an ideal sense that professionals should be in tune regardless of the message but we are dealing with human beings with very dynamic psychological variables...... not pixels or robots...... fact that cannot be ignored with blinders on.

You are trying to defend a coach here and place blame on personnel rather than looking at it from a common sense perspective IMO.......... my question to you is how many guys have to be unhappy playing for a coach trying to force a system that doesn't maximize guys strengths before accepting that the coach was just not a very good fit........... How do players that have had more success than the coach follow the message of a coach? worked for the Suns with a bunch of guys that had never won a thing but did you honestly think it would work with players that have won MULTIPLE titles and have reached higher ground than the coach EVER has playing good fundamental basketball rather than gimmick ball that the new coach preaches?.......

Too bad the owner and his boy put ego ahead of winning.......... that is how empires collapse.........

CarolinaLakerFan · by **CarolinaLakerFan** on Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:51 am

If Phil asked for all that he reported to have asked for, then I can see the FO's hesistance. BUT, Jerry Sloan would've been a much better hire.

borri · by **borri** on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:38 pm

BDG wrote:Chris Broussard just asked Dwight Howard "What's your team's identity?"

And Dwight smiled and said, "We're still trying to figure that out."

LOL what a horrible coaching hire.

While I agree with the horrible coaching hire. I disagree with D12 completely.

We DO have an identity.

Kobe facilitates. Nash sometimes, now he's more of an offensive threat. Earl hustles. MWP stinks. And D12, your job is to play D, set screens and pick and roll with Nash. Move without the ball like Earl does.

That's what we do. D12 doesn't like it so he doesn't think/know of the team identity.

D12 wants what he had in ORL. Why did he leave in the first place?

PRIMADONNA. That's what he is.

JoelMyersScrotalSack · by **JoelMyersScrotalSack** on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:43 pm

Dwight had this delusion that we would be winning games easily and was willing to not "be the man" so long as we were winning. Since it didn't turn out that way he has basically tried to blame everyone but himself for why it's not working and thinks we would be better if the offense ran through him. He's a total moron

noobiew · by **noobiew** on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:02 pm

Fire Antoni now ! ASAP !

ZenMaster4President · by **ZenMaster4President** on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:23 pm

Well, it now makes those 2 MVPs Steve got much more deserved. It was all him, clearly.

Tobias Funke · by **Tobias Funke** on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:25 pm

Why the front office do some research tonight and find an assistant coach thats been around Thibs or Pop for a few years and throw some cash at him to come and give this team something to do when they dont have possession of the ball? Because clearly MDA is either not interested or unable to get this team to play D.

What a waste.

JSM · by **JSM** on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:59 pm

I don't understand why people are ever surprised a D'Antoni team doesn't play D. Does anyone remember watching Pringles in Phoenix? His idea of defense is just score more points than the other team...put the ball in the hole and the rest will work itself out.

Do yall remember this story from Jalen Rose regarding the 07 Suns as they prepared for the Spurs in the playoffs?

according to Rose, the team arrives for the pre-Spurs series practice and it consisted of D'Antoni giving a speech that this team has it what it takes to beat them. The coaching staff showed an inspirational video and the message basically was - let's just stick to our guns and out-score them. So the meeting/practice (I suppose it was a practice session, however, it's playoff time, so they probably just had a shootaround and that's it) is about to end on that note and the veterans, Jalen Rose and Kurt Thomas, obviously are thinking - what the heck was that. So they speak up and ask D'Antoni whether we have a plan for guarding their pick-n-roll or Tim Duncan. His response basically was - nah, we don't have to worry about the Spurs, let's just play our game. Rose added that in his time at Phoenix, D'Antoni probably couldn't be able to answer any kind of questions about the defensive strategies. There were assistants who focused on that part of the game and I suppose that they gave some pointers, however, D'Antoni is still the head coach, so I can imagine that at the end of the day his gameplan basically didn't involve anything regarding the defensive strategies.

therealdeal · by **therealdeal** on Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:04 pm

I want to give him a little credit for finally drawing up a play that was big down the stretch. That out of bounds play where we tricked the entire Hornets team into lining up the wrong way... :man10:

That was hilarious. And it was actually a nice little coaching touch from him.

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