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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby Pig Miller on Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:50 pm

what's the cba agreement say about trading coaches?
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:54 pm

Blaming the coach again ? LOL ...

I guess it's Antoni who has a terrible post game, commits stupid fouls or misses wide open threes
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Postby DHL on Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:54 pm

dude needs to go to coach rehab
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Postby noobiew on Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:55 pm

6-25 3FG (24%) today, typical live by 3 die by 3
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Postby TaniBoyz on Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:57 pm

Pig Miller wrote:what's the cba agreement say about trading coaches?

I'd trade all our coach/ast. coaches(+future 1st round) for Popovich
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby The Rock on Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:58 pm

noobiew wrote:6-25 3FG (24%) today, typical live by 3 die by 3



WTF? we got open looks all day for guys like MWP and Meeks who turned into garbage tonight. Seriously. If your coach and players are able to generate open shots then they've done their jobs
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby Pig Miller on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:00 am

why did jamison play tonight? maybe he wanted to shut the board up, haha
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Postby Armani on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:02 am

Honestly, MDA can't do much more. He's never been a defensive coach... and the offense doesn't look bad. Those 3's we have been missing are all good looks... I expect them to go in once Meeks gets his stroke back. The rotations tonight looked fine to me. Morris and Pau need to go... it's time for Mitch to pull something here.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby Armani on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:03 am

Armani wrote:Honestly, MDA can't do much more. He's never been a defensive coach... and the offense doesn't look bad. Those 3's we have been missing are all good looks... I expect them to go in once Meeks gets his stroke back. The rotations tonight looked fine to me. Morris and Pau need to go... it's time for Mitch to pull something here.


I take that back. Kobe... 43 minutes. WHY.
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Postby Doc Brown on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:07 am

If you have to ask why Kobe had to play 43 minutes, you didn't watch the game or many games this season for that matter.....

We simply would get blown out if he's not out there scoring. Plus we have Morris, I SAID MORRIS, getting minutes at the two and inconsistent Jodie as well.

We would have got smoked tonight if Kobe didn't play 40+.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby noobiew on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:09 am

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noobiew wrote:6-25 3FG (24%) today, typical live by 3 die by 3



WTF? we got open looks all day for guys like MWP and Meeks who turned into garbage tonight. Seriously. If your coach and players are able to generate open shots then they've done their jobs


That's not my problem and I don't care how many open looks they got, we don't have good 3pts shooter in this team other than Nash & Meeks so the coaching staffs need to adjust the system and figure it out.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby Armani on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:10 am

Doc Brown wrote:If you have to ask why Kobe had to play 43 minutes, you didn't watch the game or many games this season for that matter.....

We simply would get blown out if he's not out there scoring. Plus we have Morris, I SAID MORRIS, getting minutes at the two and inconsistent Jodie as well.

We would have got smoked tonight if Kobe didn't play 40+.


No, I get that. The point is we're burning him out. He's not going to last at this pace for playoff time.

Buuuut I guess that's for teams that will make the playoffs. :man10: :man6:
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby Helljumper on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:12 am

So what was the problem today? Didn't start Morris? Didn't post up Pau enough? Ran too fast of a pace? Gave our best three point shooters the green light to shoot open threes? Didn't pound it in to Dwight to get the Clips in foul trouble?

I thought our half-court defense was great all game, we were just prone to some stupid mistakes (leaving Barnes wide open for a couple of threes, Pau crowding Griffin on the perimeter). Obviously our transition defense was terrible. What could D'antoni have done to change any of this? How could D'antoni have coached this game to prevent Griffin from blowing by Pau on the fast break and catching lobs?
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby Pig Miller on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:14 am

i just find dantoni uninspiring. no issues with the game plan today. we just don't have players to compete at a championship level
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Postby DarthRekal on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:19 am

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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby Finwë on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:27 am

Different coaches, same thing: no effort (except from a couple of guys) until we're down big and then it's almost always too late. There were several instances where you could just see guys not even trying.. Not running back, not contesting, not rotating, not boxing out. Disgraceful.
I don't blame D'Antoni for that.
I do think his system needs a lot of work and that he needs to start coaching and preaching D, but I don't blame him for tonight's loss.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:27 am

I'd say for a change ... let's blame Gary Vitti or Lawrence Tanter for the next loss
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby lakersyunowin on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:28 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:I'd say for a change ... let's blame Gary Vitti or Lawrence Tanter for the next loss

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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:31 am

Helljumper wrote:So what was the problem today? Didn't start Morris? Didn't post up Pau enough? Ran too fast of a pace? Gave our best three point shooters the green light to shoot open threes? Didn't pound it in to Dwight to get the Clips in foul trouble?

I thought our half-court defense was great all game, we were just prone to some stupid mistakes (leaving Barnes wide open for a couple of threes, Pau crowding Griffin on the perimeter). Obviously our transition defense was terrible. What could D'antoni have done to change any of this? How could D'antoni have coached this game to prevent Griffin from blowing by Pau on the fast break and catching lobs?


MDA is not to blame at least, IMO. When Pau & Metta for combined 2-12 for 4 points, you're not winning many games; not to mention 25% from the three point line. MDA can't hit open shots, play defense, etc. Has MDA been perfect? Nope. Could he have done things better? Of course. Tonight, though, we were beat by a better team...
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Postby Ariza3 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:27 am

glad he started mwp. glad he played jamison...for 3 minutes but he played him. might be a sign of better things for jamison. played hill more and would have even more over Pau if he didnt get injured.

should have played jamison more throughout the game imo. i liked the defense tonight...compared to other games lets be honest. 4th quarter d was good and from what trudell was saying he was focussing on d.

just wish everyone showed up today other than nash kobe dwight and hill. i guess meeks too. but pau and mwp were losers today
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby Lqv2015 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:43 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Blaming the coach again ? LOL ...

I guess it's Antoni who has a terrible post game, commits stupid fouls or misses wide open threes


If the owner gives a monkey a gun & it shoots someone, you don't blame the monkey..

Jim should've known what he was getting into when he hired MDA. He let his ego get the best of him. Phil would've utilized this group correctly. You change the system to fit your personnel. Not the other way around. This team doesn't have the legs to run this system.

If we're going to keep MDA. Lets go ahead & trade Pau for better fitting pieces.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby MC on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:55 am

The Rock wrote:
noobiew wrote:6-25 3FG (24%) today, typical live by 3 die by 3



WTF? we got open looks all day for guys like MWP and Meeks who turned into garbage tonight. Seriously. If your coach and players are able to generate open shots then they've done their jobs


Well..... it's not all about just creating open looks, it's about getting players looks where they are efficient. Pau is open at the 3 and takes some..... according to your logic there, the shot is created, open than it's Pau's fault for being inefficient..... that is just foolish. MWP is not a 3 point specialist so if your offense is designed to get him open 3s than again you have not done your job. When you create long shots from the perimeter for spotty shooting you race directly into what transition up tempo teams want to do to you... catch you standing still, rebound and get out on the break....... Again MDAs offense plays right into the hands of our opponents, especially the ones that are athletic and want to get out on you.

There is too much standing around and no actual ball movement because of it. The only time they get the defense moving is when Nash is more aggressive within his game..... any other time it's a bunch of slow ball movement and contested shots unless it's the perimeter look. That IS NOT doing your job as a coach.

This team's hole issue is that it expands way too much energy not only running the offense but learning one. They first start one way, completely change after a dozen games......... this team is perfectly designed for a defensive minded philosophy that triggers offense..... this team is all offensive thinking and if it's not working than it's a long day in transition and on the other end of the floor...... bad mentality when you actually look at this roster........ unbalanced offense is not exactly helping them on the defensive end right now. They need a coach that is going to seriously hold them accountable on that end of the floor..... if they did they might find out they can run some with nash in there and get what they want out of creating TOs and rebounding. The best way to run is to create defensive stops..... not the other way around which is the MDA way....... just so HS.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby MC on Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:08 am

I just want to repeat this one more time for the cheap seats.......

THE BEST WAY TO RUN AND PLAY UPTEMPO IS TO PLAY DEFENSE AND CREATE EXTRA OPPORTUNITIES IN TRANSITION...... That is what the Buss family is thinking about, that pushed tempo but they don;t have a freak'n clue on what made Showtime.... well showtime back in the day. They controlled their boards and defended the perimeter well....even masking Magics questionable defense at the 1. That's what allowed them to push the pace.

Now look at our coach and his philosophy since he's been in the NBA? it is the polar opposite of that, the only comparison to Showtime is that they try and run up a score.......... the guy is a hack.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby odom1year on Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:01 am

MDA = worst defensive Lakers coach ever
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: post in 7 seconds or less

Postby JGC on Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:46 am

We're not even running Dantoni's offense. At all.

It's hard to blame Dantoni really. It's like, you bring in an executive chef to run your kitchen and instead of line cooks you brought in engineers or something.
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