lakersyunowin wrote:it's not just about what made dwight leave. it's about what started the lakers juju turning sour.
We got swept by Dallas in 2011, and Jerry Buss was still owner and operational..
The decline of Pau was huge. The FO recognized it and found a way to land us CHRIS PAUL. But it was vetoed.
Then the entire FO met with some coaches and chose to hire Mike Brown. That was a terrible hire IMO, but I don't see how we can point the finger exclusively to Jim Buss. Another example of the old when something good happens it's Mitch, when something bad happens it's Jim.
After a similar season (in terms of success) under Mike Brown as the one under the legendary Phil Jackson the year before, the FO turned around and got Dwight Howard and Steve Nash, and we were all excited. But that was just Mitch right? No credit to Jim? No credit for choosing to trade a player he reportedly liked so much ("Bynum is Jim Buss' guy")?
We got rid of Brown, and again, the FO chose MDA. That's how it's been reported (the only information we have)-> it was the FOs decision. Not Jim Buss' choice alone. We just like to think that there's no way Dr. Buss could've made a bad hire, and that his dumb son decided alone. Another bad coaching hire.
We also failed that season IMO to effectively solidify our bench. Where's the Mitch criticism there? Or is it Jim's fault? I thought Mitch got the credit when we made great trades or great signings, so I assumed Mitch would also get his fair share of blame for not being able to put together a decent bench for several years, no?
So injuries happened, bad coaching happened, and we sucked (in terms of expectations).
Then came the Dwightmare. Like some others pointed out, this isn't just any other "superstar". This is Dwight Howard, a very weak-minded dude, who hates pressure and wants to be loved. Do you really think Dr. Buss would've been able to achieve what Jim and Co. weren't able to, and get Dwight to stay? I don't.
You could argue back "well but Dwight only left because of the team and coaching staff Jimbo put together". And we're back at square 1, where is that coming from? Why is it that he never gets any credit, and takes all the blame? Why are people so adamant on praising Mitch for good moves and then don't even consider blaming him when we make bad moves of a similar kind? How is that logical?
If it's just about coaching, it still doesn't make sense. All of our available information (that isn't speculation by people like Stephen A Smith, or rants by Lazenby, who almost comes across as PJs mouth piece) states the same: the coaches were not picked by Jim Buss alone / coaching hires were agreed upon by Jerry, Jim and Mitch / Jerry had the final say.
I understand skepticism over that, but I don't think Jerry Buss (even when he wasn't really healthy) would a) let his son make a coaching hire he didn't approve of and b) let the media say that it was actually his decision and not Jim's. He just doesn't seem like that kind of man, there's no way IMO.
Terrible decisions have been made when it comes to coaches lately (and some when it comes to personnel too), but IMO it should not be on Jim's shoulders alone. We need to stop idolizing people to the point where we can't even consider blaming them for anything and we rather just place all the blame in the new guy.
This is my take. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't understand the logic of the Jim Buss exclusive hate.