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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:17 pm

therealdeal wrote:He's staying at least until the end of this season, but the look on Mitch's face should bode well for anti-D'Antoni fans. The fact is we're looking for a high draft pick now, so losing more often than we win is what we need. D'Antoni's offense is perfect for that.

That being said, we've still got some national games left and if we get embarrassed like this again, we're not going to see D'Antoni much longer. It's one thing to lose games with fire. When we lost to the Pelicans (sad as that sentence already is) we fought hard and came close in the end. In this game we were out of it half way through the 2nd quarter and we never even put up a fight. Maybe 3 players on the team fought back and they weren't very effective at it.

D'Antoni can't lose control of the team, that's the last straw. So far I'd say he's got a foot out the door right now.


Yeah….. Agree…..But…….even with everyone on the small ball lineup giving their max they would still get punked by this big physical Clippers team. I understand Hill was nursing the knee but put Kaman in there for at least 15 minutes to give s o m e size and hard fouls at least at the basket. He'd like payback on them too. NO. Of course NOT, whatever couple things Kaman can't do make's him completely worthless in Clown's eyes. Play bigger, more of the game, for chrissakes. He thinks the Clippers don't like to get up and down the floor too?

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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby therealdeal on Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:18 pm

I'm not diagreeing LT. :man10:

Just saying it's the reality of the situation that he's pretty likely to make it through this season.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:20 pm

Yeah I get that. He just CAN'T come back next year. CAN'T. But I was more referring to TNT crew or anyone else thinking "more effort" "play harder" with the small guys would make much difference.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:39 pm

There is absolutely no doubt MDA will be back next season ... I know it's terrible but nobody should get their hope up
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby 432J on Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:46 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:There is absolutely no doubt MDA will be back next season ... I know it's terrible but nobody should get their hope up


they NEED to can him if they want to attract guys like carmelo, kyrie, or love

if their plan is to go after those guys in 2015 then i guess he'll come back next season and they'll fire him prior to the 15-16 season. but it would just be best to get rid of the guy now
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby gradymac on Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:47 pm

No free agents will come here if that piece of trash is still coaching. God Jim is an idiot
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:18 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:There is absolutely no doubt MDA will be back next season ... I know it's terrible but nobody should get their hope up


I heard Ireland and Mason talking about this 2 days ago and Mason like us was adamant Dan had to be gone next year, but Ireland really seemed to think from what his info / gut / whatever was telling him that D'antoni was coming back. If Mitch sitting up there watching that disgrace last night agrees to this without putting up a huge slap Jim around intellectual fight about it, then he has NO balls and is just taking a paycheck. No basketball person should think this a**clown has any business getting one more year. It guarantees failure for one more year.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:20 pm

Isn't Mitch's contract up?

If he leaves. We are in some trouble. Not just because of his departure, but because of what that implies about the internal workings of the franchise.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby therealdeal on Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:20 pm

LTLakerFan wrote:Yeah I get that. He just CAN'T come back next year. CAN'T. But I was more referring to TNT crew or anyone else thinking "more effort" "play harder" with the small guys would make much difference.

They're right too, but I think it's just a crappy situation. They're right that every single player on our team should look at themselves in the mirror and be ashamed of the way they played last night. Maybe excluding Henry, but even so he should be disappointed.

But it's not necessarily their fault they suck. It's on the FO for the way the team looks right now and it's on D'Antoni for the way they act on the court.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby LakersN4 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:54 pm

Chillbongo wrote:Isn't Mitch's contract up?

If he leaves. We are in some trouble. Not just because of his departure, but because of what that implies about the internal workings of the franchise.

If Mitch left Jimbo would have to bow down & beg Phil or Jerry West to come back.. I know Mitch got a 5 year extension in 2009 not sure if his contract is over this summer or next.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby LakersN4 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:43 pm

D'antoni is taking way too much of the blame here.. Pau is the only player currently active that belongs near a starting lineup.. You could get away with starting 1 or possibly even 2 of Farmar/Kaman/Hill if you had stars at 3 of the other 4 positions but the fact is we simply don't have anywhere near enough talent to win. We're running 2 sets of good bench players against teams with actual starters in their starting lineups.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:51 pm

LakersN4 wrote:D'antoni is taking way too much of the blame here.. Pau is the only player currently active that belongs near a starting lineup.. You could get away with starting 1 of Farmar/Kaman/Hill if you had stars at 3 of the other 4 positions but the fact is we simply don't have anywhere near enough talent to win.


He gets the blame when I have to read after the game that the team essentially quit last night and gets blasted by 50 points.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:58 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:D'antoni is taking way too much of the blame here.. Pau is the only player currently active that belongs near a starting lineup.. You could get away with starting 1 of Farmar/Kaman/Hill if you had stars at 3 of the other 4 positions but the fact is we simply don't have anywhere near enough talent to win.


He gets the blame when I have to read after the game that the team essentially quit last night and gets blasted by 50 points.



Why the game didn't get chippy is beyond me. The Clips were hoisting 3's short in the clock right up until the final horn. Jordan and Paul were cheering them on as well. For gods sakes Rambis should have gone Mchale on someone. Other than Baze, X and maybe Farmar we capitulated in the second quarter.

MDA has to take heat for the team attitude......
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:06 pm

Ramona Shelburne ‏@ramonashelburne 2m
Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak met with Mike D'Antoni and Jim Buss after Thurs game. Initial inclination is to see how team responds, sources say.
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Ramona Shelburne ‏@ramonashelburne 21s
Lakers obviously will continue to assess the situation. But while that was a bad loss, Lakers also beat Portland on road Monday
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Has the process started for canning this guy?
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:10 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Why the game didn't get chippy is beyond me. The Clips were hoisting 3's short in the clock right up until the final horn. Jordan and Paul were cheering them on as well. For gods sakes Rambis should have gone Mchale on someone. Other than Baze, X and maybe Farmar we capitulated in the second quarter.

MDA has to take heat for the team attitude......


Something needed to happen. The fact that the team didn't show an ounce of grit when they were repeatedly hit in the mouth is concerning.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby charvin on Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:10 pm

They won against Portland on Monday, that apparently was enough saving grace for D'Antoni. If he stays to finish his contract, I want him to take no part in any discussion of drafting.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby TIME on Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:25 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
Ramona Shelburne ‏@ramonashelburne 2m
Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak met with Mike D'Antoni and Jim Buss after Thurs game. Initial inclination is to see how team responds, sources say.
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Ramona Shelburne ‏@ramonashelburne 21s
Lakers obviously will continue to assess the situation. But while that was a bad loss, Lakers also beat Portland on road Monday
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Has the process started for canning this guy?


The first quote = the only glimmer of hope I've had in weeks.

The second quote = :bang:

I'm just going to convince myself that Mitch took the initiative and tried to talk some sense into Jimbo.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby 432J on Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:21 pm

:man10:

so because they won against portland on the road, then everything is fine?

my god this front office is so pathetic it's not even funny
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:33 pm

432J wrote::man10:

so because they won against portland on the road, then everything is fine?

my god this front office is so pathetic it's not even funny


Not necesraily. That tweet came from Ramona Shelburne. I think that is HER opinion of the state of things.

Nonetheless I can see Jimmy having the rationale that "we beat Portland in Portland" and forgetting about losses to NO, LAC, and a bunch of other ones before the win @ POR..... :man2:
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby unpossibl1 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:37 pm

Doesn't really make sense to can D'Antoni right now, with 20 games left in the season and losses helping us more than wins. As soon as the season is over though he should be gone, especially if the Lakers have any desire to bring Pau back.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby borri on Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:56 pm

LakersN4 wrote:D'antoni is taking way too much of the blame here.. Pau is the only player currently active that belongs near a starting lineup.. You could get away with starting 1 or possibly even 2 of Farmar/Kaman/Hill if you had stars at 3 of the other 4 positions but the fact is we simply don't have anywhere near enough talent to win. We're running 2 sets of good bench players against teams with actual starters in their starting lineups.


Strongly disagree. We getting toasted on the glass and paint....for how long now?

So what does Antoni do?....Leave our best interior defenders and rebounders in Kaman and Hill on the bench.....so he can play Wes as a stretch 4.

Makes a whole lotta sense to me........ :man3:
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby trodgers on Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:12 pm

21 wins, 41 losses

We're popping Champagne over a road won vs. Portland? How the mighty have fallen.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby Center Court on Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:31 pm

Like others have said, there is no real/tangible reason to fire him now versus in the off-season. At this point, every loss helps secure ping pong balls and that pick will amount to a huge portion of our rebuilding effort. Mike is good at that.

On a deeper lever, firing him would be Buss sending a message that he is not happy and will not settle with someone who is not winning- no matter what the excuse is. He'd be putting his stubbornness and ego aside for once.

Either way, Rambis ain't winning us too many games so I see both perspectives.

BUT if this clown is still coach come July, I'll be livid. That is the mistake that Jim cannot make. I especially don't want to hear his excuse of "injuries". This team has no identity, heart, fight, toughness, or character. It's a group of guys who just want to fill the stat sheet to get that next deal.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby trodgers on Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:33 pm

Showing a team you haven't given up on them is important. If we're going to dump MDA, now isn't a BAD time to do it.
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Re: Mike D'Antoni Discussion: "I was an idiot..." (155)

Postby lotus on Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:54 pm

Chillbongo wrote:Isn't Mitch's contract up?

If he leaves. We are in some trouble. Not just because of his departure, but because of what that implies about the internal workings of the franchise.

If Mitch leaves then I think you know who the problem is for this franchise.
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