revgen wrote:I just spent some time watching training camp videos of Doc Rivers, Doug Collins, George Karl, Greg Popovic and Ric Adelman. And then I watched the camp interviews with Mike Brown.
I've said before that I didn't think that even a guy like MB could screw up a lineup with Nash, Kobe, Dwight, and Pau, but now I'm not so sure. My memories of 2004 don't help either.
We hired Phil because Del Harris couldn't get to the Finals with Shaq, Kobe, Van Exel, Eddie Jones, and with Horry, Fox, and Cambell coming off the bench. I hope we don't have to do the same with this lineup.


OX1947 wrote:The Pet Detective and Eric Spo have won the last two championships as coaches. The art of great coaching to win a title has gone the way of "defense wins championships" in the NFL.
revgen wrote:OX1947 wrote:The Pet Detective and Eric Spo have won the last two championships as coaches. The art of great coaching to win a title has gone the way of "defense wins championships" in the NFL.
^Pet detective actually isn't a bad coach. And while I agree on Spo to an extent, at least he has the Coach Whisperer upstairs to advise him if he's doing something he shouldn't be doing. But I'll concede your point that the league is different now than it was 10 years ago, especially with the no-touch rules. Give it to Lebron or KD and set a pick is the special play coaches draw up in the timeout these days. And it works too since nobody can touch them on the perimeter.
OX1947 wrote:revgen wrote:OX1947 wrote:The Pet Detective and Eric Spo have won the last two championships as coaches. The art of great coaching to win a title has gone the way of "defense wins championships" in the NFL.
^Pet detective actually isn't a bad coach. And while I agree on Spo to an extent, at least he has the Coach Whisperer upstairs to advise him if he's doing something he shouldn't be doing. But I'll concede your point that the league is different now than it was 10 years ago, especially with the no-touch rules. Give it to Lebron or KD and set a pick is the special play coaches draw up in the timeout these days. And it works too since nobody can touch them on the perimeter.
Ray Finkel's investigator calls timeouts after every 2-0 run. That's all he does. Call timeouts.
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Mike Brown's conservative approach to building this Lakers season continues: After a day off for players Sunday, another day off tomorrow.
Lakerjones wrote:I think Brown may very well be the worst Lakers coach I've ever seen. He's worse than Del Harris actually. Del at least overachieved when he first got here. Brown's been underachieving since day one. I think Randy Pfund might have been better. Maybe not Rambis. That one's up in the air.


Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Lakerjones wrote:I think Brown may very well be the worst Lakers coach I've ever seen. He's worse than Del Harris actually. Del at least overachieved when he first got here. Brown's been underachieving since day one. I think Randy Pfund might have been better. Maybe not Rambis. That one's up in the air.
Overachieved?![]()
Stop it. Last year outside of our top three guys in Kobe, Drew, and Pau that roster was very, very inept from a talent perspective. Absolutely zero depth/bench. Arguably the worst bench in Lakers history. We finished where we should've. Hell you could argue the team overachieved.

BDG wrote:We need to make some roster cuts and Brown needs to stop mixing and matching lineups at this point (at least for the first half) so the team can actually get into a rhythm before the regular season starts.
fksteveblake wrote:BDG wrote:We need to make some roster cuts and Brown needs to stop mixing and matching lineups at this point (at least for the first half) so the team can actually get into a rhythm before the regular season starts.
this.
TIME wrote:fksteveblake wrote:BDG wrote:We need to make some roster cuts and Brown needs to stop mixing and matching lineups at this point (at least for the first half) so the team can actually get into a rhythm before the regular season starts.
this.
Your new avvy is both likeable and deeply disturbing... much like the coach it represents.

Lakerjones wrote:Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Lakerjones wrote:I think Brown may very well be the worst Lakers coach I've ever seen. He's worse than Del Harris actually. Del at least overachieved when he first got here. Brown's been underachieving since day one. I think Randy Pfund might have been better. Maybe not Rambis. That one's up in the air.
Overachieved?![]()
Stop it. Last year outside of our top three guys in Kobe, Drew, and Pau that roster was very, very inept from a talent perspective. Absolutely zero depth/bench. Arguably the worst bench in Lakers history. We finished where we should've. Hell you could argue the team overachieved.
What's so funny? You don't think Del Harris overachieved when he first got here? Have you seen the 1994-95 roster? He took that roster as far as last year's team went and earned a Coach of the Year award for it. Eddie Jones was still a rookie. That's called overachievement. And I never liked Del Harris. I think you better check out your Laker history and cool it with the emoticons.
Last year's coaching job was not overachieving by Mike Brown.

revgen wrote:^Coaches get fired constantly. If Pop, Rivers, Adelman, or Karl are available the Lakers will call them. Phil retired for health-related reasons. I don't see him coming back anytime soon.

fksteveblake wrote:revgen wrote:^Coaches get fired constantly. If Pop, Rivers, Adelman, or Karl are available the Lakers will call them. Phil retired for health-related reasons. I don't see him coming back anytime soon.
the scary thing is that they did indeed call adelman..but passed on him for mike brown.

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