Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:45 pm

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Two Mikes - Woodson and D'Antoni - have been named NBA coaches of the month for April.

A couple of April fools if ever saw one.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Vasashi17 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:55 pm

Nikez: Not sure if you were referring to me in particular, but I do believe that we're winning in spite of MDA. Name one thing that he has unequivocally bought to this team to define us....in positive way of course?

I've always liked our roster....some of the folks here don't, but its been said over and over again before the season started that on paper we had enough talent to meet Miami in the Finals. There is enough talent on this roster even though our core 4 make the majority of the salary on this team. With Nash and Kobe down, Blake is stepping up. When Dwight was slowed earlier in the season, Hill stepped up. When Pau went down, Clark stepped up. Jamison has shown that he can still pack some offensive punch off the bench and heck, even Darius Morris made some clutch shots in that Houston game.

Bottomline is that there is enough talent on this team where you didn't have to have a 8 man rotation as early as December and didn't have to play Kobe entire games down the stretch. We gave MDA a chance to utilize his offensive genius....lost a ton of ground in the process. Kept trying something else, until Kobe pretty much told our frontline to go park in the post and the ball will come their way. He convinced MDA that Pau is still an offensive beast if you put the ball in his hands. Essentially, we scrapped whatever MDA had proposed to bring to this unit. In recent weeks, he's understood the importance of playing our frontline together on offense and what they can do defensively.

What is this team's identity this late in the game? Does anybody even know? Do Laker fans even know? I'm sorry, that's not a mark of good coach. What's infuriated alot of fans is that you spent top dollar on this roster and then let ego get in the way in hiring the best coach available....and he was available.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby gcclaker on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:05 pm

^The sad part which I expected was that Coach Hee Haw would be sensible enough to know WHAT he has and work with it. To know better than forcing that "seven seconds or less" offense philosophy on them. Or at least modify it to balance the obvious inside game potential that we have with the open, floor game which he is known for. Sadly, NONE of it happened. It took him, what, just last Tuesday that the Gasol and Howard tandem "could" work? All that time and he just came to realize it?

Great coaches like Popovich know how to adjust to fit the talent accordingly. He quickly went from a power, slowdown game to a wide open one with Parker and a slew of fast, athletic wings yet still able to incorporate the ageless Duncan into the mix. Our squad has to adjust to what our current coach THINKS will work even if it is ill-fitting. He has an even bigger benefit of a doubt with training camp and hopefully a healed core with a rehabbing 24.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Juronimo on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:09 pm

Not thrilled at all with MDA coming back. I understand the f.o. not wanting to pay 3 coaches, but I can't say I'm happy with this.

MDA is not one of my favorite people at the moment. We're winning in spite of him and I'll never get over him running Kobe into the ground. That was unforgivable.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby TheZen on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:13 pm

I'll be the first person to post it in this thread...

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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Vasashi17 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:16 pm

I just don't understand the excuses MDA keeps getting.

I'm like the next fan wanting anything to see Showtime again. Uptempo is fun to watch. But right now with this roster, we don't have those pieces. Yet management wanted us to believe MDA was the right fit. It's insulting!

Now they think that injuries (which happens to every god dang team in the NBA) and no training camp (PnR..really? Is it that tough to get?) is what caused it?!?

Mitch to his credit hit 2 homeruns this last summer and that came after the league nixed a pretty good CP3 deal the summer before. But for god's sake, man up Mitch and tell Jimmy that you will no longer be his mouth piece.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Weezy on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:25 pm

I just think it's dumb to tell a guy he's safe before you see how he does in the playoffs. I realize SA is better than us and we most likely lose, but what if 'Antoni totally botches it and is badly outcoached? Why not just say nothing and leave your options open? According to ESPN Phil is itching to return to the NBA, why turn that down before at least exploring it, depending on our offseason, what Dwight does, many factors?
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Shobe on Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:47 pm

It would not suprise me if Dwight told the front office if you don't bring PJ back as coach then im gone. He doesn't like playing for Mike D'Antoni neither does Pau. So if the front office is stupid enough to lose pau and dwight then they are really stupid. PJ would coach this team the way its suppose to be coached. Not having Pau shoot 3's and kobe hogging the ball. Nash would have the ball and direct the offense. But more importantly if PJ was our coach we would be playing inside out just like we did with Shaq. Dwight and pau don't belong roaming around and being used wrong. Not to mention PJ would monitor Kobe's minutes and get him to rest.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Enforcer on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:00 pm

I hope Mitch just said that to give MDA some confidence going into the postseason. Once we get knocked out he won't have to play any more mind games.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:18 pm

Don't worry they assured Brown that he'll be the coach going forward and got fired two weeks later
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:47 pm

If we bring in the right role players for his system his rotations will grow naturally.. I wouldn't have many complaints about him then.. If Phil showed interest or Adelman became available, sure you make a move. But there's noone out there that's much better.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby JSM on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:59 pm

lakersin4 wrote:If we bring in the right role players for his system his rotations will grow naturally.. I wouldn't have many complaints about him then.. If Phil showed interest or Adelman became available, sure you make a move. But there's noone out there that's much better.

A roster overhaul is much easier said than done. We don't have the movable pieces or the signing options available to us to put together a roster that benefits MDA and also D12.

I'd take any of the following over MDA right now with this squad -- Phil, Adelman, Sloan, the Van Gundy brothers, or Shaw
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby TIME on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:29 pm

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I'd take any of the following over MDA right now with this squad -- Phil, Adelman, Sloan, the Van Gundy brothers, or Shaw


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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby noobiew on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:45 pm

JSM wrote:I'd take any of the following over MDA right now with this squad -- Phil, Adelman, Sloan, the Van Gundy brothers, or Shaw


+1, I take Byron Scott over him too.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Center Court on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:47 pm

TIME wrote:
JSM wrote:

I'd take any of the following over MDA right now with this squad -- Phil, Adelman, Sloan, the Van Gundy brothers, or Shaw


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Phil- yes obv.
Adleman- already employed
Sloan- torn. not sure he'd b a great fit but still better than MDA
JVG- sure
SVG- "beef" with Dwight
Shaw- never been a head coach, this could be over his head right now

anyone prefer Byron Scott?
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby 432J on Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:14 am

i'd love to see byron scott coaching this team. especially considering that he was a big part of those showtime teams

he'd be my choice to replace dan tony. not saying it'll happen but we can dream right? phil is not coming back and after how he was basically shoed away, i doubt shaw is either. i can't see sloan ever coaching again, ron jeremy would never go anywhere close to where dwight plays, JVG is iffy since he's a "defensive coach" and that experiment didn't go well last time around. and adelman is already employed

we're stuck with dan tony fellas
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby purp n gold on Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:43 am

Phil signs on as an exec & forces MDA to run the triangle? MDA disagrees and "steps down"? Hopefully? :man6:
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby JSM on Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:40 am

Center Court wrote:Phil- yes obv.
Adleman- already employed
Sloan- torn. not sure he'd b a great fit but still better than MDA
JVG- sure
SVG- "beef" with Dwight
Shaw- never been a head coach, this could be over his head right now

anyone prefer Byron Scott?

-There's rumors Adelman may leave after the season due to family/health. If that were to change, I'd take him here yesterday.
-Sloan is one of the few people that would instantly have the respect from the team and Kobe. He demands results from his team, holds players accountable, gets results on D, runs a slower tempo offense, and coached the best P&R duo in recent memory with Malone and Stockton.
-SVG has gone to bat for Dwight this season. Dwight has been singing his praises whenever asked about him and says they talk all the time now, sometimes daily. He got to the Finals with SVG. Given the choice between MDA and SVG, I guarantee you D12 will move Stan to LA himself.
-Several Lakers wanted Shaw to replace Phil. Dwight liked the idea of him when there were talks of him coming to Orlando. People around the league believe he's the most deserving assistant coach in the league for a reason.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:30 am

Everyone needs to keep this in mind.... We're not only paying for MDA right now but we're still paying Brown.... so to fire MDA before his contract is up would potentially mean that we would be paying for 3 coaches....
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby Center Court on Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:38 pm

JSM wrote:
Center Court wrote:Phil- yes obv.
Adleman- already employed
Sloan- torn. not sure he'd b a great fit but still better than MDA
JVG- sure
SVG- "beef" with Dwight
Shaw- never been a head coach, this could be over his head right now

anyone prefer Byron Scott?

-There's rumors Adelman may leave after the season due to family/health. If that were to change, I'd take him here yesterday.
-Sloan is one of the few people that would instantly have the respect from the team and Kobe. He demands results from his team, holds players accountable, gets results on D, runs a slower tempo offense, and coached the best P&R duo in recent memory with Malone and Stockton.
-SVG has gone to bat for Dwight this season. Dwight has been singing his praises whenever asked about him and says they talk all the time now, sometimes daily. He got to the Finals with SVG. Given the choice between MDA and SVG, I guarantee you D12 will move Stan to LA himself.
-Several Lakers wanted Shaw to replace Phil. Dwight liked the idea of him when there were talks of him coming to Orlando. People around the league believe he's the most deserving assistant coach in the league for a reason.


So Adleman's family/health issues are gonna get him to quit on Minny and come here. He is IMO the best coach for this team and if he's available I'd say we should go after. However, we could have had him before and passed. If both we are on the open market, I think MDA is still chosen by Jim.

Sloan is the best PNR coach ever. MDA is a great PNR coach. But how did our attempt to run PNR go? Dwight is nowhere near as mobile/range-ish as Malone. Pau is nowhere near as physical as Malone. Malone had a good deal of Pau and some of Dwight in him. Neither are well suited for a heavy pick/roll offense.

Dwight has not gone to bat for SVG. Please show me where. He's said he wished it ended differently and they text from time to time. He also said maybe one day they end up together again. He said he wished leaving Orlando was handled differently, do you think he still wants to be there? Even if Dwight wanted Stan, I doubt Stan wants Dwight. At least not yet.

Again, if the Lakers wanted the triange, they'd go after Phil. Bringing in Shaw is almost a concession to Phil. Even if it's not Phil, it's his system, his approach, etc.


This teams best style of play is pound it inside. Let the offense run through Dwight and Pau and let Kobe be more off ball/striker mode. Nash would be out initiator and deadly 3 point threat. We need a system that allows our guys to play to their strengths and to their instincts. Combine that core 4 with Jamison/Blake and a younger/uptempo bench (ala 2008) and we're golden. Phil is the answer.

Hopefully, MDA sees how we need to play and adjusts his "genious" to make it all work.
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby noobiew on Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:46 am

Rooscooter wrote:Everyone needs to keep this in mind.... We're not only paying for MDA right now but we're still paying Brown.... so to fire MDA before his contract is up would potentially mean that we would be paying for 3 coaches....


Byron Scott was just fired by the Cavs and rumors is Cavs are very interested in bringing back Mike Brown, so if Mike Brown get hired by Cavs then I presume his contract with us will be ended and off the book so we won't have to continue to pay his salary right ?
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Re: Mitch confirms Mike D'Antoni will return as coach (Pg. 4)

Postby therealdeal on Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:07 pm

noobiew wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Everyone needs to keep this in mind.... We're not only paying for MDA right now but we're still paying Brown.... so to fire MDA before his contract is up would potentially mean that we would be paying for 3 coaches....


Byron Scott was just fired by the Cavs and rumors is Cavs are very interested in bringing back Mike Brown, so if Mike Brown get hired by Cavs then I presume his contract with us will be ended and off the book so we won't have to continue to pay his salary right ?

I don't know the details of Brown's contract, but I don't see that as necessarily being true. If he was contracted to coach 4 seasons here, then he will likely get paid the entirety of that contract. I don't know the specifics of Brown's contract, but I'm not sure there's a "employment clause" in it.
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