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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby davriver290 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:33 am

I dont get the Hate Metta is getting. He's been our most consistent player by far out there other than Kobe. He brings it on Defense, and shoots the three ball at a respectable percentage. He deserves to be confident and maybe even cocky.... He has boneheaded plays, but then again, who on our team hasn't had a boneheaded play?
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:37 am

Nah, he clanks too many threes for my taste.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby Armani on Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:38 am

davriver290 wrote:I dont get the Hate Metta is getting. He's been our most consistent player by far out there other than Kobe. He brings it on Defense, and shoots the three ball at a respectable percentage. He deserves to be confident and maybe even cocky.... He has boneheaded plays, but then again, who on our team hasn't had a boneheaded play?


There's a world of difference in IQ levels. This is like saying "BUT BUT BUT KOBE MAKES BONEHEADED PLAYS TOO!!!!". I mean, well, he's Kobe, so that's okay... 'cause you know he'll turn it around next game. MWP might just end up like this for the rest of the year, and a lot of it goes on coaching.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby Weezy on Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:43 am

davriver290 wrote:I dont get the Hate Metta is getting. He's been our most consistent player by far out there other than Kobe. He brings it on Defense, and shoots the three ball at a respectable percentage. He deserves to be confident and maybe even cocky.... He has boneheaded plays, but then again, who on our team hasn't had a boneheaded play?


The 'hate' is coming because he is the ONLY player on the team who either doesn't know how to keep the ball moving or he doesn't care to. I like MWP, he still brings defense and effort all the time, but he keeps being a ball stopper, and he keeps dribbling the ball wildly and taking bad shots. He still swings the ball sometimes so I know he really can do it, but too often the ball is stopping with him and he's trying to do too much with it instead of sticking to the gameplay of ball movement. I'm not going to get mad at him for takin open 3s though, clearly he was instructed to do that by the coach. Aside from that though overall he is shooting too much, I believe it was last game he had 17 shots to Clark's 6. Nash is a better shooter, Pau is better, MWP doesn't need to be taking the most shots on the team in any game, ever.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby lakersyunowin on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:11 am

He was consistent, but as of late has been on a decline, with an attitude that doesn't match the results. There's confidence...then there's arrogance. Guy needs to make his open shots, period.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby therealdeal on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:02 am

He's been playing the same way he's played since the OKC game. He's just not hitting his shots. He wasn't doing a great job then either of moving the ball, but he was attacking more often. Whenever we've seen him matched up against smaller guys, we'd see him take him inside and abuse him. He hasn't done that in a while.

These days he's far more likely to shoot a jumper over someone than try to drive to the rim. He's hurt somewhere, I can see it. I just don't know what it is yet. I'll wait the two months before he comes out and says "I've been playing with plantar fascitis again" or something.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby charvin on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:06 am

Being consistent doesn't give you an entitlement to do whatever you want, for the most part. Durant can consistently drop over 20 points a game, and shoots the 3 at a more respectable percentage. Does that give him the right to continually bomb 3's disregarding the mid-range and short-range game? No.

I think what some people are ticked off about MWP is, that the ball stops when he goes on his "iso-Ron" plays. He's got the chance to shoot it, but shuffles sideways and then takes it all the while still being contested. He's also been consistently bad butchering fast breaks also...
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby borri on Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:54 pm

Ron is ICE COLD. Let's hope he breaks out of it in time for BRK, BOS and MIA. Cuz we NEED to win 2 of those games.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby gradymac on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:36 pm

Metta is garbage! He's a liability on offense and hes becoming a liability on defense. He can't dribble, cant pass can't shoot , cant move the ball, has no idea what to do during a fast break and for some reason he never passes to dwight. What is this guy good for we need to trade him quick. Is ariza available? Ariza would be perfect for this team. he's younger he plays defense and can definitely make a wide open jumper. My two favorite highlights of ariza were his two game winning steals vs boston and denver. Artest had some great plays also like his clutch putback vs phx and his money 3 vs boston but that was ARTEST, this is metta there aren't any metta highlights because Metta sucks. Ariza will fit in perfectly. All he has to is make wide open jumpers and play the same level defense he did when he was a laker. And so what if it doesnt work out as planned anything is better than MWP right and jamison is always ready to provide excellent veteran play when needed. This is a no brainer
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:41 pm

gradymac wrote: Ariza can definitely make a wide open jumper. Ariza will fit in perfectly. All he has to is make wide open jumpers


Why write this? You could of easily looked up his stats or actually watched a couple of games of Ariza to see that he can't shoot worth a lick.

He's shooting 37% on the year, not from 3, but overall and is a career 32% 3 point shooter.

Ever since he left the Lakers he's shooting 40% from the field and about 32% from 3.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby NewDynasty on Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:53 pm

Artest needs to get benched when he statts chucking and sucking like he has been the last 3 games
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:45 pm

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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:37 pm

Lil punk knight claims metta punched him... I only watched the 4th was it suspension worthy?
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby GoldHammish on Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:43 pm

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:Lil punk knight claims metta punched him... I only watched the 4th was it suspension worthy?

LOL hardly
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:56 pm

Lil bleep won' t last a game in the 80s :disagree:
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby WilliamHaven on Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:04 am

i like how those commentators make that out to be some vicious uppercut. Ron was moving his arm around...that's it. underhook. i kind of feel bad for Ron...his reputation will always follow him. at least on the road, anyway.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby KB24 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:30 am

WilliamHaven wrote:i like how those commentators make that out to be some vicious uppercut. Ron was moving his arm around...that's it. underhook. i kind of feel bad for Ron...his reputation will always follow him. at least on the road, anyway.

the fact that its "always an unfortunate" move from Artest is telling me and you something. You get the benefit of the doubt once or twice but when it happens on a regular basis then probably you are the problem.

Artest is being punished because he doesn't behave and gets involved into unnecessary scuffles all the time. He has been suspended many times before for fights.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:24 am

Peace is most definitely the problem.

He's refereed differently because of it, which can be a problem, but certainly he has earned his reputation.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:43 am

Is Ron off his meds again? He seems to having more "outbursts" lately.

It's not a big deal, but he seems to be way more pissed off on the court than usual. I don't mind it one bit, we need our enforcer on the court, but it seems like it's been more noticeable instead of the quiet rage within we are used to seeing.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:53 am

Maybe he's feeling the need to amp himself up. I hope so. We need some attitude with this squad.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:55 am

Two things about Ron....

First he's one of only 2 players that has brought it every night this year..... he is what he is on the court but at least he's there every night and ready to play.

Second..... he is what he is... he's unstable from time to time.... he's a streak shooter.... he's not a good ball handler and he's not a good initiator. He's still an adequate defender and a decent shooter from time to time.

Ron has given more this season than I expected by far.... he's rolled back his production 3 years... a lot more than we can say about some of our other aging "Stars"....... that's for sure.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:57 am

therealdeal wrote:Maybe he's feeling the need to amp himself up. I hope so. We need some attitude with this squad.


I don't mind crazy Ron one bit, that's when he's at his best. When him and Kobe were jawing at each other during the Pistons game, I didn't hesitate one bit to think that we need more of that. Everyone keeps everyone in check.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby bfc1125roy on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:59 am

Rooscooter wrote:Two things about Ron....

First he's one of only 2 players that has brought it every night this year..... he is what he is on the court but at least he's there every night and ready to play.

Second..... he is what he is... he's unstable from time to time.... he's a streak shooter.... he's not a good ball handler and he's not a good initiator. He's still an adequate defender and a decent shooter from time to time.

Ron has given more this season than I expected by far.... he's rolled back his production 3 years... a lot more than we can say about some of our other aging "Stars"....... that's for sure.


Bringing it every night doesn't mean anything if you can't hit open 3 point shots. Ron Artest has been attempting the second most shots on the Lakers for multiple games this season and it's a big problem. He needs to stick to defending power forwards, unless we're dealing with most power 3s like Carmelo Anthony, and the Lakers need to put a player that can stretch the floor at the small forward instead.
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:04 am

bfc1125roy wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Two things about Ron....

First he's one of only 2 players that has brought it every night this year..... he is what he is on the court but at least he's there every night and ready to play.

Second..... he is what he is... he's unstable from time to time.... he's a streak shooter.... he's not a good ball handler and he's not a good initiator. He's still an adequate defender and a decent shooter from time to time.

Ron has given more this season than I expected by far.... he's rolled back his production 3 years... a lot more than we can say about some of our other aging "Stars"....... that's for sure.


Bringing it every night doesn't mean anything


This is where I stopped.......
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Kobe passing, Peace chucking

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:04 am

Doc Brown wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Maybe he's feeling the need to amp himself up. I hope so. We need some attitude with this squad.


I don't mind crazy Ron one bit, that's when he's at his best. When him and Kobe were jawing at each other during the Pistons game, I didn't hesitate one bit to think that we need more of that. Everyone keeps everyone in check.

Except Ron gets away with more because he's literally insane. :man10:

I sometimes get the feeling that the other guys don't talk to him as much about what he's doing because they are afraid he'll jump off the handle. Everybody else gets yelled at, everybody else gets told what to do/not to do.

Metta doesn't really live by those rules.
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