MWPeace Discussion: likely out for game 4 (pg. 201)

Ron is ICE COLD. Let's hope he breaks out of it in time for BRK, BOS and MIA. Cuz we NEED to win 2 of those games.

Metta is garbage! He's a liability on offense and hes becoming a liability on defense. He can't dribble, cant pass can't shoot , cant move the ball, has no idea what to do during a fast break and for some reason he never passes to dwight. What is this guy good for we need to trade him quick. Is ariza available? Ariza would be perfect for this team. he's younger he plays defense and can definitely make a wide open jumper. My two favorite highlights of ariza were his two game winning steals vs boston and denver. Artest had some great plays also like his clutch putback vs phx and his money 3 vs boston but that was ARTEST, this is metta there aren't any metta highlights because Metta sucks. Ariza will fit in perfectly. All he has to is make wide open jumpers and play the same level defense he did when he was a laker. And so what if it doesnt work out as planned anything is better than MWP right and jamison is always ready to provide excellent veteran play when needed. This is a no brainer
SHIP HIS @SS OUT!

gradymac wrote: Ariza can definitely make a wide open jumper. Ariza will fit in perfectly. All he has to is make wide open jumpers

Why write this? You could of easily looked up his stats or actually watched a couple of games of Ariza to see that he can't shoot worth a lick.

He's shooting 37% on the year, not from 3, but overall and is a career 32% 3 point shooter.

Ever since he left the Lakers he's shooting 40% from the field and about 32% from 3.

Artest needs to get benched when he statts chucking and sucking like he has been the last 3 games

Lil punk knight claims metta punched him... I only watched the 4th was it suspension worthy?

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:Lil punk knight claims metta punched him... I only watched the 4th was it suspension worthy?

LOL hardly

Lil bleep won' t last a game in the 80s

i like how those commentators make that out to be some vicious uppercut. Ron was moving his arm around...that's it. underhook. i kind of feel bad for Ron...his reputation will always follow him. at least on the road, anyway.

WilliamHaven wrote:i like how those commentators make that out to be some vicious uppercut. Ron was moving his arm around...that's it. underhook. i kind of feel bad for Ron...his reputation will always follow him. at least on the road, anyway.

the fact that its "always an unfortunate" move from Artest is telling me and you something. You get the benefit of the doubt once or twice but when it happens on a regular basis then probably you are the problem.

Artest is being punished because he doesn't behave and gets involved into unnecessary scuffles all the time. He has been suspended many times before for fights.

Peace is most definitely the problem.

He's refereed differently because of it, which can be a problem, but certainly he has earned his reputation.

Is Ron off his meds again? He seems to having more "outbursts" lately.

It's not a big deal, but he seems to be way more pissed off on the court than usual. I don't mind it one bit, we need our enforcer on the court, but it seems like it's been more noticeable instead of the quiet rage within we are used to seeing.

Maybe he's feeling the need to amp himself up. I hope so. We need some attitude with this squad.

Two things about Ron....

First he's one of only 2 players that has brought it every night this year..... he is what he is on the court but at least he's there every night and ready to play.

Second..... he is what he is... he's unstable from time to time.... he's a streak shooter.... he's not a good ball handler and he's not a good initiator. He's still an adequate defender and a decent shooter from time to time.

Ron has given more this season than I expected by far.... he's rolled back his production 3 years... a lot more than we can say about some of our other aging "Stars"....... that's for sure.

therealdeal wrote:Maybe he's feeling the need to amp himself up. I hope so. We need some attitude with this squad.

I don't mind crazy Ron one bit, that's when he's at his best. When him and Kobe were jawing at each other during the Pistons game, I didn't hesitate one bit to think that we need more of that. Everyone keeps everyone in check.

Rooscooter wrote:Two things about Ron....

First he's one of only 2 players that has brought it every night this year..... he is what he is on the court but at least he's there every night and ready to play.

Second..... he is what he is... he's unstable from time to time.... he's a streak shooter.... he's not a good ball handler and he's not a good initiator. He's still an adequate defender and a decent shooter from time to time.

Ron has given more this season than I expected by far.... he's rolled back his production 3 years... a lot more than we can say about some of our other aging "Stars"....... that's for sure.

Bringing it every night doesn't mean anything if you can't hit open 3 point shots. Ron Artest has been attempting the second most shots on the Lakers for multiple games this season and it's a big problem. He needs to stick to defending power forwards, unless we're dealing with most power 3s like Carmelo Anthony, and the Lakers need to put a player that can stretch the floor at the small forward instead.

bfc1125roy wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:Two things about Ron....

First he's one of only 2 players that has brought it every night this year..... he is what he is on the court but at least he's there every night and ready to play.

Second..... he is what he is... he's unstable from time to time.... he's a streak shooter.... he's not a good ball handler and he's not a good initiator. He's still an adequate defender and a decent shooter from time to time.

Ron has given more this season than I expected by far.... he's rolled back his production 3 years... a lot more than we can say about some of our other aging "Stars"....... that's for sure.

Bringing it every night doesn't mean anything

This is where I stopped.......

Doc Brown wrote:

therealdeal wrote:Maybe he's feeling the need to amp himself up. I hope so. We need some attitude with this squad.

I don't mind crazy Ron one bit, that's when he's at his best. When him and Kobe were jawing at each other during the Pistons game, I didn't hesitate one bit to think that we need more of that. Everyone keeps everyone in check.

Except Ron gets away with more because he's literally insane.

I sometimes get the feeling that the other guys don't talk to him as much about what he's doing because they are afraid he'll jump off the handle. Everybody else gets yelled at, everybody else gets told what to do/not to do.

Metta doesn't really live by those rules.

Rooscooter wrote:

bfc1125roy wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:Two things about Ron....

First he's one of only 2 players that has brought it every night this year..... he is what he is on the court but at least he's there every night and ready to play.

Second..... he is what he is... he's unstable from time to time.... he's a streak shooter.... he's not a good ball handler and he's not a good initiator. He's still an adequate defender and a decent shooter from time to time.

Ron has given more this season than I expected by far.... he's rolled back his production 3 years... a lot more than we can say about some of our other aging "Stars"....... that's for sure.

Bringing it every night doesn't mean anything

This is where I stopped.......

What does that even mean? You can "bring it" every night but if you suck you suck, I could care less what "it" is at that point.

Darius Morris is on the court ready to play and so is Robert Sacre. But you don't see them on the court for good reason, they aren't contributing players.

Next time read the full sentence....

In what world should MWP be attempting the second most shots on the team this season?

bfc1125roy wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:

bfc1125roy wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:Two things about Ron....

First he's one of only 2 players that has brought it every night this year..... he is what he is on the court but at least he's there every night and ready to play.

Second..... he is what he is... he's unstable from time to time.... he's a streak shooter.... he's not a good ball handler and he's not a good initiator. He's still an adequate defender and a decent shooter from time to time.

Ron has given more this season than I expected by far.... he's rolled back his production 3 years... a lot more than we can say about some of our other aging "Stars"....... that's for sure.

Bringing it every night doesn't mean anything

This is where I stopped.......

What does that even mean? You can "bring it" every night but if you suck you suck, I could care less what "it" is at that point.

Darius Morris is on the court ready to play and so is Robert Sacre. But you don't see them on the court for good reason, they aren't contributing players.

Next time read the full sentence....

In what world should MWP be attempting the second most shots on the team this season?

Why don't you look at a longer time frame, contributions to our wins and overall worth before you take a small sample and run with it. Do you really not understand why he's got the second most shots?.... That explains your comments I guess.

Do we beat OKC without his contributions? Did he just skip "sucking" that game?..... are you the one why will enlighten us to the next time he will "skip" sucking so we can all be ready for it?.....

In reality he's been the defining reason for a number of wins this year. His play is elevated from last year and he's there and ready to play every night. Other than Kobe we have a team of "Big Names" with small games who are more interested in "touches" and who's the lead in on Sport Center..... It's a bad season and a bad situation but MWP isn't our problem on this team...... not by a long shot.

I'm ok with this. I'm in the camp that likes Ron's craziness for this team. Outside of Kobe and Ron, we dont have many people that can strike fear in an opponent.

That said, ron needs to be in the gym practicing his shooting and handles. Dude's had a bad stretch of games to end January.

I think Metta has been great ALL season long. I just think that he needs to play smarter during a few stretches of the game. Example would be, it's never a good idea to go 1 against 3 on fast break, when you got no handle. He just needs to understand game situation a little bit better. Other than that, I love his never give up attitude when he's on the court.

Yesterday he played within himself and under control. Play that way and he'll be fine

revgen wrote:

KB24 wrote:

WilliamHaven wrote:i like how those commentators make that out to be some vicious uppercut. Ron was moving his arm around...that's it. underhook. i kind of feel bad for Ron...his reputation will always follow him. at least on the road, anyway.

the fact that its "always an unfortunate" move from Artest is telling me and you something. You get the benefit of the doubt once or twice but when it happens on a regular basis then probably you are the problem.

Artest is being punished because he doesn't behave and gets involved into unnecessary scuffles all the time. He has been suspended many times before for fights.

Artest is 250lbs and he's a physical player. Besides Lebron, Melo and a few others, most NBA players don't have the kind of body he has. So they're constantly retaliating against him on the court. Sometimes it is Metta's fault (Harden), but it's often retaliation plays from the opposing player.

This. Artest is one of those people who just has an uncanny natural strength. He has an ability to hit people and push on them without it looking like he is doing so, so opposing player get beat up a little without much being called.

He certainly can mix things up with the best of them, but a lot of his conflicts start with retaliation from the other guy on what he feels was an uncalled foul.