MWPeace Discussion: amnesty? (pg. 203)

khmrP wrote:after getting rid of one of the worse starting PG, we now have one of the worst starting SF, never ends

The saddest part is how delusional he is. He still thinks he's an all-star caliber player and was probably offended over the summer at how everyone said we had a "big 4" and he wasn't included in that. Such a nut case

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:

khmrP wrote:after getting rid of one of the worse starting PG, we now have one of the worst starting SF, never ends

The saddest part is how delusional he is. He still thinks he's an all-star caliber player and was probably offended over the summer at how everyone said we had a "big 4" and he wasn't included in that. Such a nut case

I actually agree with this.

I'm not sure why, but I get the vibe he deosnt realize how poorly he's been playing lately. Hope he comes back from the abyss.

Ron isn't as bad as these posts are making it seem. He was one of he only guys on the team playing well earilier in the season. He's inconsistent & we'd be better with a younger more athletic SF, I won't debate that.. The chucking needs to be toned down too. But Ron can still play a vital role on this team.

lakersin4 wrote:Ron isn't as bad as these posts are making it seem. He was one of he only guys on the team playing well earilier in the season. He's inconsistent & we'd be better with a younger more athletic SF, I won't debate that.. The chucking needs to be toned down too. But Ron can still play a vital role on this team.

his vital role is for the other team, now they can double off of him as they please, ask Dragic

Sure he's not that bad ... 38.5 % from the field in January , 34 % from 3.

7/32 from the field , 2/15 from 3 in 3 games in Feb .

He plays at an "acceptable" level ( consistency wise) in Nov and Dec and that's about it ...

Once again , keep in mind , the opponent D doesn't pay attention to Metta ... this team will be so much better with an above average shooter at the SF position ...

Same thing goes for Meeks

another horrid shooting night....dude getting worse as season progresses

There was a stretch of games where he was one of our most consistant players, now... HOT GARBAGE. It came to the point where i want him to get suspended by the league actually

MWPs O left him when Clark was given a starting role. It goes unlooked but since Clark has started, Metta has defended Boozer, Zach Randolph, Mullins tonight, Monroe, Drummond, Pekovic, and the like. To accommodate Clark he's defended the starting PF on most teams where he gives up height, length, and size. His rebounding has been good shockingly but its by boxing out those big guys. And when Dwight got hurt and Pau was starting, we used Metta as backup C to defend Pek, Drummond, Monroe, and the like. Is hard to keep your legs under you with that as he has to box everyone out to play the 4 on the glass, and he's also playing hurt with a groin injury

^He already sucks right at the beginning of the game. And he has been garbage against small teams too.

When you miss wide open shots, its rather not because of tired legs because his bricks aren't too short, its the inability to shoot properly. And there is history which indicates Artest simply isn't a good shooter and has never been efficient at scoring.

He is expiring right? Any market for him at all?

Him for Korver or Morrow?

Would any team really take him? maybe Brooklyn? doubt it.

I just wish the Lakers traded Gasol in early December after hiring MDA and realizing the bad fit. There is now no way to add depth or make a trade, other than using Clark, which won't happen now given his value.

now Atl wants to move Josh. Crazy how bad our luck has been this year.

^ I thought he had a PO for next year?

Wow, surprised at all the negative posts about MWP. Yes, he has been bad to downright awful lately but he was playing great ball in the beginning of the season. I wouldn't want to trade him...not for a guy like Korver, I think that makes us even worse defensively. MWP has always been inconsistent, he will turn it around. I like having him on this team...as Kobe always says he is one of the few guys he can always count on to bring energy and effort.

XXIV wrote:^ I thought he had a PO for next year?

He does and he'll exercise it. We do need to get younger at the SF position.

it obviously sounds like most of us are in the "what have you done for me lately" train of thought because yes he did start out the season shooting well. However it is what it is now and thats him HURTING this team with his play, almost on a consistent basis on both sides of the floor and right now we certaintly can't make up for his bad play on a consistent basis either.

If the Mavericks offer Marion in a trade for Peace then the Lakers should accept it... I wonder if the Lakers & Mavs will discuss the scenario heading into the trade-dead line? I really cannot watch another game from MWP.

Ice-Fire wrote:If the Mavericks offer Marion in a trade for Peace then the Lakers should accept it... I wonder if the Lakers & Mavs will discuss the scenario heading into the trade-dead line? I really cannot watch another game from MWP.

Seems like a completely lateral trade for both teams.

Biz wrote:

Ice-Fire wrote:If the Mavericks offer Marion in a trade for Peace then the Lakers should accept it... I wonder if the Lakers & Mavs will discuss the scenario heading into the trade-dead line? I really cannot watch another game from MWP.

Seems like a completely lateral trade for both teams.

Lol no it would be Mitch completely fleecing another team again

Ice-Fire wrote:If the Mavericks offer Marion in a trade for Peace then the Lakers should accept it... I wonder if the Lakers & Mavs will discuss the scenario heading into the trade-dead line? I really cannot watch another game from MWP.

Sure, if they include Dirk for Pau.

khmrP wrote:it obviously sounds like most of us are in the "what have you done for me lately" train of thought because yes he did start out the season shooting well. However it is what it is now and thats him HURTING this team with his play, almost on a consistent basis on both sides of the floor and right now we certaintly can't make up for his bad play on a consistent basis either.

The thing is, even when he is making shots, there are so many other areas in the game that he struggles with. Ofcourse a few 3's can erase some of those things but they are still there.

Its tough to get on him though because its not his fault that we have him too long of a contract. We have a habit of giving extended contracts to replaceable players.

This is how bad Ron has been going since the new year:

20 GP

2 G where he shot better than 50%
7 G where he shot better than 40% (that includes the 2 games he shot over 50%)
11 G where he shot under 40%.

This road trip, Ron is a blistering 5-29 from 3. Roughly 55% of his shots have come from 3.

^Wow. It's not like we can move him. We moved Luke but there was a draft pick attached to that trade that gave us Sessions. If we had any draft picks to include with Ron, I'd be shopping him to a lower-tier team for a player that can give us more impact...

Ron and Kobe are major problems with their lack of spacing.

they have made an absolutely unacceptable 6 of their last 54 threes combined.

Kobe's 1-25 and Ron 5-29...that's just not NBA ready. Either you don't shoot or you make more shots. No excuses.

Well, you can double off of Ron right now and collapse the paint without fearing him. Same for Kobe when he settles to shoot from the 3-point line. As much as Dwight is limited offensively & injured, it's easier to collapse in the paint and really make things difficult for Dwight.

I was watching an old YouTube video when Dwight was in Orlando playing against Golden State. The spacing he had to operate was a big difference to what he gets here in L.A. That was a concern of mine with Metta coming into the season was his ability to space the floor.