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Postby lotus on Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:45 pm

Let him just sit on the bench in civilians with Kobe. That alone will add more toughness to this team than the team we put out on the floor.
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Postby pound4pound1 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:49 pm

let's replace Stu with MWP...double win :jam2:
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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Waived Via Amnesty!!! (216)

Postby Kobe8Fan on Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:39 pm

Ron: Mitch, I Wanna Come Back, Teach The Young Guys And Help Y'all Win A NBA Championship

By Dave McMenamin | ESPNLosAngeles.com

EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- One day after being waived by the Los Angeles Lakers via the amnesty provision, Metta World Peace said he doesn't want any NBA team to make a bid to pick him up off waivers. Not his hometown New York Knicks or the Brooklyn Nets. And not the Lakers' Staples Center cohabitants, the Los Angeles Clippers.

"I don't really want to play for anybody," World Peace said Friday at the Lakers' practice facility. "I don't want to go anywhere. I want to go to China, or coach or play arena football."

World Peace said he has spoken to Yao Ming about joining his former Houston Rockets teammate's Chinese team, the Shanghai Sharks. He said he's had conversations with representatives from "a couple other teams" in China, as well.

World Peace recently completed a trip to Beijing and Qingdao, which further fueled his idea of playing in China should he be amnestied. A league source told ESPNLosAngeles.com that World Peace has explored the option of playing in China through conversations with former NBA players who have made the leap, figuring out if the path blazed by the likes of Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis and Gilbert Arenas would be right for him.

"You don't live twice," World Peace said. "You're not 33 twice. You won't be able to play in China at a good level again. I wouldn't be able to play in China again averaging, maybe, 40 or more points. That would be fun."

It could all just be an entertaining bluff from World Peace, of course. The Lakers still have to pay him his $7.7 million salary for next season, but he is now on the market and teams with cap room can claim him off waivers via a bidding process.

If a team puts a bid on him and World Peace chose to retire rather than report to it, he would put his entire salary at risk, including money the Lakers owe to him. It would be an unprecedented scenario; no amnestied player that has been picked up off waivers ever has gone that route since the current collective bargaining agreement went into place in December 2011.

Should World Peace clear the 48-hour waiver-style bidding process without any team making a bid, he would become an unrestricted free agent and would be free to sign with the team of his choice [including teams above the luxury-tax threshold, which still could offer him the veteran's minimum]. An amnestied player may not be re-signed by the team that released him, however, until the contract that was waived expired [which in World Peace's case would be the summer of 2014].

Jose Morales, a longtime friend and confidant of World Peace, told ESPNNewYork.com earlier this week that the veteran small forward would consider retirement if a team claimed him from a city for which he did not want to play.

"If one of these small-market teams picks him up, he won't be happy with that," Morales said. "He doesn't want to play there."

Morales said World Peace would be open to playing for the Clippers, but if he can't stay in Los Angeles, he would want to play only in New York.

World Peace, however, said the ship has sailed on playing in his hometown.

"I had a chance to play in New York [in the past]," World Peace said. "I wanted to play in New York when I was in my prime and I was young, fierce, lock-down [defender]. Madison Square Garden, that would have been sick. But right now, China is way more adventurous for me."

World Peace also said that his surgically repaired left knee -- he had a torn meniscus repaired in March, then had approximately 20 CCs of liquid drained from a popliteal cyst in it -- is still not healthy.

"My knee is sore," said World Peace, who missed the Lakers' final playoff game due to the knee. "I'm definitely not going to be pounding my knee now that I'm amnestied. I'm not even thinking about pounding my knee right now. I'm good with just where I'm at right now."

He did not think his knee would prevent him from playing in China, however, for the next 1-2 years.

"It's a short season," World Peace said. "Thirty-something games. I could show up when I want to show up."

World Peace entered the Lakers' training facility on Friday shortly after the team introduced Nick Young as their newest signee. Young is expected to start at small forward next season, taking World Peace's place.

Despite coming off a resurgent season in which he averaged 12.4 points [up from 7.7 in 2011-12] and 5.0 rebounds [up from 3.4] and improved his shooting percentages from the floor, the 3-point line and the foul line, the 14-year veteran said he wants to "just explore something else."

World Peace met with Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak on Friday and said there were no hard feelings.

"It was an extra $24 million that was going to have to come from a family-owned business," World Peace said, referring to the approximate total of what it would cost the Lakers to pay his salary, plus luxury taxes in 2013-14, if they did not amnesty him.

"I'm really close with the [Buss] family, so I would not want the family-owned business to have to come out of pocket like that. So, I definitely supported the decision."

World Peace said when he heard rumors earlier in the week that he would be amnestied, he reached out to Kupchak immediately with an alternative plan to keep him in L.A.

"I said, 'Mitch, I want to come back and coach this year,'" World Peace said. "That was the first thing I texted Mitch. I said, 'Don't worry about it.' I said, 'I understand what you have to do and I would love to help the young guys. I want to coach. I want to help y'all win a championship.'"

And if China or coaching doesn't work out, there's always arena football on which to fall back.

"I enjoy myself," World Peace said. "I definitely enjoy myself. I don't do something unless it's going to be fun. I'm telling you, if I have a chance to play arena football, I'm going to do it. You guys will see me there, and you're going to be writing about it."


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Re: MWPeace Discussion: Waived Via Amnesty!!! (216)

Postby Weezy on Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:53 pm

The part about his knee being sore, still not being right, that is interesting. That, in addition to the savings, might be a big reason he was amnestied, not worth the risk at his age. You have to love his attitude though, not bitter, not ungrateful, same old Ron. "I'll just go to China, play arena football, or stay and coach", lol nobody else would have such wild and varied goals. If he wanted to stay on as a "coach", teach the young guys some defense and just be around the team I wouldn't say no to that. Metta's teammates like him and were sad to see him go, if he's a good guy to have around, keep him around, he obviously has love for the Lakers.
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Postby Aonex on Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:58 pm

Man, reading that makes you love him even more.
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Postby Shadow on Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:29 pm

I took losing Metta World Peace 10 times harder than losing Dwight. Dwight never really did anything to this team, but Metta gave us his heart and passion every single day and for that I thank him!
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Postby Tobias Funke on Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:34 pm

Throw him an offer to be on the staff in some way and see if he's serious. I never thought Id say this based on not knowing him before he came here, but the guy actually seems like a great great person to have around your team.
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Postby Aonex on Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:46 pm

Tobias Funke wrote:Throw him an offer to be on the staff in some way and see if he's serious. I never thought Id say this based on not knowing him before he came here, but the guy actually seems like a great great person to have around your team.


Defensive coordinator? :man1:
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Postby gcclaker on Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:51 pm

^A position on the staff? Sure... Even with a suit, I can see him making other opposing players back off from messing with the squad.

World Peace talking about how his knee is still sore or his candor about what he wants to do instead might scare off teams from bidding on him.
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Postby chingy248 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:15 pm

Just curious do Assistant Coaches or whatever staff member get paid in the millions? Going from player to coach
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Postby Tobias Funke on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:33 pm

If I had to guess Id say the majority of them get paid around vet min money at most.

Would be nice to have someone on the staff to help work on defense, and someone that probably wont be canned when they inevitably fire Pringles and his crew. Ron's won a ring already, and he's played more games as a Laker than as a member of any other team, so he'd probably get caught in the emotion up join the staff if offered.

It would fit in nicely in the little "back to our roots" movement that they Lakers have going on as well with the signing of LA native Young and considering players from our most recent championship squad.
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Postby TaniBoyz on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:39 pm

is it legal/allowed to make him part of the staff?
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:41 pm

TaniBoyz wrote:is it legal/allowed to make him part of the staff?

I don't see why not. He wouldn't count towards the cap and he can't legally play basketball as a coach.
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Postby Aonex on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:48 pm

I think this has to happen... someone tweet Metta with the idea.
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Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:56 pm

let him be on the staff. help with teaching D to the young guys. show them some of his skills. i would totally support that. everyone would.
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Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:57 pm

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Postby Barnstable on Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:08 pm

I'd love to have MWP on the staff just because I love him in general, and I can't see him being worse than some of the current coaches on defense.

But honestly, I don't know if he can teach what he did on defense. How do you teach having quick and accurate hands, and ridiculous muscles and size, his most advantageous defensive strengths.
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Postby Weezy on Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:11 pm

Barnstable wrote:I'd love to have MWP on the staff just because I love him in general, and I can't see him being worse than some of the current coaches on defense.

But honestly, I don't know if he can teach what he did on defense. How do you teach having quick and accurate hands, and ridiculous muscles and size, his most advantageous defensive strengths.


This point is why I put quotations around "coach" when I said it in regards to MWP. I don't know how much of an actual coach on defense he could be, I would think he'd be there more to be a good practice coach, put a body on guys and show them some tricks, just a good guy to have around.
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Postby Tobias Funke on Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:13 pm

Aonex wrote:I think this has to happen... someone tweet Metta with the idea.


Well he did bring up the idea to Mitch himself it sounds like, unless he was thinking about doing it down the line and not now.

At the very least Ron could replace Hamm, who he used to do quite a bit of work with, actually.
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Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:23 pm

Barnstable wrote:
But honestly, I don't know if he can teach what he did on defense. How do you teach having quick and accurate hands, and ridiculous muscles and size, his most advantageous defensive strengths.


This makes me wonder what MDA did as a player and how he can "teach it"..... :man10:

As for Metta on the bench.... When they put a guy like Rasheed Wallace in a coaching position nothing would surprise me now.
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Postby JSM on Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:08 pm

I'd love for MWP to join the coaching staff. He would automatically be more qualified than MDA. And hey, who knows...if Mikey gets canned mid-season, maybe MWP can take over. Wouldn't that be entertaining. :man10:

But seriously though, he'd be a great assistant to have to run the practices, show the guys defensive positioning and angles. And he's still mobile enough to run through the drills with them.

Even if he wants to take a year or so and go pursue some of his other en devours -- Chinese basketball, hockey, boxing, etc. I really hope his travels land him back with the Lakers in some capacity.
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Postby Aonex on Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:26 pm

WTF? Clippers?

A person with knowledge of World Peace's situation told USA TODAY Sports that he now has the Los Angeles Clippers atop his list of possible destinations. The Queensbridge, N.Y. native previously had his hometown New York Knicks as his preferred choice his list of favorites, but he is now said to be more interested in joining the new-look Clippers while being able to avoid relocating. Both teams appear to have interest in adding World Peace, but would only be able to offer him a veteran's minimum contract of $1.4 million annually.


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Postby Amoray on Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:30 pm

I like to see Kobe, Steve Nash and MWP coaches next season than players. Kobe head coach, steve Nash offense assistance coach and MWP the might defense coach, that way we may attract Labron and Menlo to join Lakersnation.
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Postby puffyusaf#2 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:31 pm

Coach MWP!!!!!!!!!!! lets make it happen
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Postby Tobias Funke on Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:49 pm

Did the Clippers find a loophole where they can have 10 extra players?
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