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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby Alcindor on Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:40 pm

Pau is a more reliable a scorer than Drew or Artest period, he'll get more shots than either.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby JSM on Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:55 pm

For whatever reason he looked a little more passive last night than he had in the prior few games. It was a blowout, so I'm not complaining. It's just he had a few looks that he would have taken in the Thunder or Rockets game that he waved off last night.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby The Rock on Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:01 pm

his birthday is this friday the 13th lol
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby Center Court on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:12 pm

If Ron is averaging 15/5/5 with incredible defense, a couple steals and blocks, a warriors mentality, unyeilding intensity, and a bad boy streak to this team, then I think he is playing perfectly for our needs.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby Sean on Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:44 am

RON ARTEST: ROYAL RUMBLES, TUPAC AND MATH

Mike Trudell; Lakers Reporter | November 12, 2009

On the basketball court, it only takes a quick peek at the numbers to see that Ron Artest has fit in quite well with the Lakers.

The traditional statistics show that Artest ranks third on the team in scoring (12.0) behind Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum, second in assists (4.6) after Lamar Odom and second in steals behind Bryant, while the more advanced show that he's leading the team in plus/minus with +73 for the season, or plus 10.4 per seven games.

In other words, the Lakers have outscored their opponents by an average of 10.4 points per game when Artest is on the court, which is by far the best in the team. In fact, the only game that showed a negative number in plus/minus for Artest was the Dallas loss, when he was minus two. By comparison, every other starter (Bryant, Odom, Bynum and Derek Fisher) were at least minus 20 in that game. Without question, his outstanding defense is the easiest way to explain those numbers, but his passing ability and increasing-daily understanding of the offense are contributing as well.

Yet on this day, we sat down with Artest to talk about everything but basketball, opting for such things as his favorite wrestler (the Ultimate Warrior), artist (Tupac Shakur), subject in college (math) and more.

MT: Growing up in Queensbridge, New York, what was one thing you really enjoyed doing other than playing hoops?
Artest: I was really into wrestling when I was a kid. Hulk Hogan and The Ultimate Warrior were my favorites. I never wrestled with my (friends), but we always watched it.

MT: Remember when they used to have the “Royal Rumble,” which was basically like a last-man-standing-in-the-ring competition? Who on your new Lakers team would win an all-squad Rumble?
Artest: Probably (D.J.) Mbenga. I just can’t see him losing.

MT: Sure, he’s seven-feet tall with no body fat and crazy reach, but I guess it’s the black belt in judo that’s really the difference…
Artest: That’s definitely the difference. All day. He’s very strong, but he’s also agile.

MT: Still, I don’t know how many people would bet against you ... But let’s switch over to music – how about your all-time top five artists? Artest: Probably Tupac (Shakur), Eminem, Slick Rick, Nas and Scarface. I really do love Biggy also, but he never was one of my favorites. I like Lil’ Wayne, but he’s no 2pac yet, he’s no Slick Rick. He’s still young though. You have to give him a couple years - he has a big window in front of him to get there yet. Because ‘Pac definitely had a way of flowing. He told stories about where he was from, and he was really political. I liked that.

MT: What was your take on the whole East Coast vs. West Coast thing?
Artest: I thought it’d didn’t make no sense. It was started by some knuckleheads, and some people wanted to see that. It made no sense for people to fight over a coast.

MT: You told me the other day that you don’t watch and wouldn’t want to be on reality shows like “Survivor” – even though I think you’d win – or “Fear Factor,” so what do you watch?
Artest: I used to watch “American Gladiators,” that was good, definitely one of my favorites. I can still watch that show now.


MT: Speaking of a show you could win … Or you could just be a Gladiator.
Artest: (Nodding) Yeah, probably. I actually met one of them one time.

MT: Turbo? Nitro? Anyway, let's get one basketball question in here. I want to get your take on Kobe Bryant, whom you’ve admired from an opposing point of view for several years before getting the chance to play with him.
Artest: Kobe is tough, he’s a great competitor, he’s smart, he’s a leader and he is always trying to work harder than everybody. That’s why I like him. I’m not going to compare him to anybody, I’m just going to say he’s the greatest to ever play.

MT: People may not know that you were a math major at St. Johns before going pro after your sophomore year…
Artest: That was my favorite class, the most fun and most exciting for me. You never knew what the outcome was going to be depending on the question or the equation. But that’s what I liked about math, being able to come up with the right answer and know exactly what it was.

MT: Six years before college in New York, you began playing AAU ball with L.A.’s own Lamar Odom. Later, current 76er Elton Brand came down from Westchester to join you. Who was the best?
Artest: Elton was an inch or so ahead of Lamar, and Lamar was next, and then I think it was me. We were always neck-and-neck with each other as far as careers, but we all did different things and had different personalities. Elton was always the leader of the pack, but we all played our part.

MT: Anybody who has met Lamar knows how warm he is as a person. What can you tell us about how he was as a kid?
Artest: He was the same. He went through a lot, grew up in a rough neighborhood, but was always Lamar. He was always really funny, loved his teammates, loved to play basketball. Just like now. He is just a great person.

MT: Adam Morrison told me that “toast” was what he cooked best. How about you?
Artest: Nothing, really. My wife cooks everything. If I had to make something, it’d be something like a can of beans. (Something) I could stick in a microwave or a pot.


MT: He doesn’t anymore, but Kobe used to eat McDonalds quite a bit, game days included. Are you a fast food guy at all?
Artest: Not at all. I’m not a fan of fast food, it’s not good for you. I’d rather sit down and get something to eat … but if I’m going to get a burger, it’s going to be from In ‘N’ Out. I think they have the healthiest burgers, but I wouldn’t advise anybody to eat (any) fast food.

MT: What’s in your wife’s repertoire?
Artest: She makes Mexican food like burritos, Italian food like lasagna, sweet potatoes, mac and cheese … she makes all kinds of things and I love it all.

MT: Finally Ron, you’ve done quite a bit of world traveling, including treks to China and Kenya. What has that done for you?
Artest: Life-changing. It changed my view of the world and of myself, especially going to Africa. Just seeing poor people are. At the end of the day we’re all human – everyone feels the same pain, and it was (hard to see that). I’ve been to Honduras too, and it was also pretty tough. You want (all people) to be able to eat, you want them to have shelter, you want them to have water and be able to go to the bathroom. It was tough.

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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby Lakerjones on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:21 am

:jam2: :jam2: :bow:

^^^^ Phenomenal interview. It's hard to even describe how much I'm loving Ron. This guy is just so compelling. He's really bright, funny and insightful. It's rare to find such a well spoken guy in sports who draws you in so completely. Most athletes are pretty uninteresting in general when they speak. Not a bash on jocks or anything, but the cliches are so boring to listen to and so is the usual "analytic" talk with them.

Ron is a real entertainer - and he's smart. And he's real - he's got a great combination of humility, cockiness, awareness and empathy.

This is interview is a great find because you see each one of those qualities come through in Artest's answers and all the while it's so natural and such a great read. He entertains. Ron might actually be "The Most Interesting Man in Basketball."
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby mpresev on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:23 am

Ron is cool. I'm liking him now.. He's a good 3 point shooter. And not injury prone.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby Lakerjones on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:28 am

Bumping this great interview to this page so my post makes some kind of sense. Just check out the range here with Ron!! Great comment on the East West coast nonsense - "started by some knuckleheads"! LMAO off the Mbenga winning the royal rumble, and very much feeling the heartfelt concern about poverty in his world travels. Love this guy. And I'm way into him picking Slick Rick as one of his all time faves and of course Pac.

Sean wrote:RON ARTEST: ROYAL RUMBLES, TUPAC AND MATH

Mike Trudell; Lakers Reporter | November 12, 2009

On the basketball court, it only takes a quick peek at the numbers to see that Ron Artest has fit in quite well with the Lakers.

The traditional statistics show that Artest ranks third on the team in scoring (12.0) behind Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum, second in assists (4.6) after Lamar Odom and second in steals behind Bryant, while the more advanced show that he's leading the team in plus/minus with +73 for the season, or plus 10.4 per seven games.

In other words, the Lakers have outscored their opponents by an average of 10.4 points per game when Artest is on the court, which is by far the best in the team. In fact, the only game that showed a negative number in plus/minus for Artest was the Dallas loss, when he was minus two. By comparison, every other starter (Bryant, Odom, Bynum and Derek Fisher) were at least minus 20 in that game. Without question, his outstanding defense is the easiest way to explain those numbers, but his passing ability and increasing-daily understanding of the offense are contributing as well.

Yet on this day, we sat down with Artest to talk about everything but basketball, opting for such things as his favorite wrestler (the Ultimate Warrior), artist (Tupac Shakur), subject in college (math) and more.

MT: Growing up in Queensbridge, New York, what was one thing you really enjoyed doing other than playing hoops?
Artest: I was really into wrestling when I was a kid. Hulk Hogan and The Ultimate Warrior were my favorites. I never wrestled with my (friends), but we always watched it.

MT: Remember when they used to have the “Royal Rumble,” which was basically like a last-man-standing-in-the-ring competition? Who on your new Lakers team would win an all-squad Rumble?
Artest: Probably (D.J.) Mbenga. I just can’t see him losing.

MT: Sure, he’s seven-feet tall with no body fat and crazy reach, but I guess it’s the black belt in judo that’s really the difference…
Artest: That’s definitely the difference. All day. He’s very strong, but he’s also agile.

MT: Still, I don’t know how many people would bet against you ... But let’s switch over to music – how about your all-time top five artists? Artest: Probably Tupac (Shakur), Eminem, Slick Rick, Nas and Scarface. I really do love Biggy also, but he never was one of my favorites. I like Lil’ Wayne, but he’s no 2pac yet, he’s no Slick Rick. He’s still young though. You have to give him a couple years - he has a big window in front of him to get there yet. Because ‘Pac definitely had a way of flowing. He told stories about where he was from, and he was really political. I liked that.

MT: What was your take on the whole East Coast vs. West Coast thing?
Artest: I thought it’d didn’t make no sense. It was started by some knuckleheads, and some people wanted to see that. It made no sense for people to fight over a coast.

MT: You told me the other day that you don’t watch and wouldn’t want to be on reality shows like “Survivor” – even though I think you’d win – or “Fear Factor,” so what do you watch?
Artest: I used to watch “American Gladiators,” that was good, definitely one of my favorites. I can still watch that show now.


MT: Speaking of a show you could win … Or you could just be a Gladiator.
Artest: (Nodding) Yeah, probably. I actually met one of them one time.

MT: Turbo? Nitro? Anyway, let's get one basketball question in here. I want to get your take on Kobe Bryant, whom you’ve admired from an opposing point of view for several years before getting the chance to play with him.
Artest: Kobe is tough, he’s a great competitor, he’s smart, he’s a leader and he is always trying to work harder than everybody. That’s why I like him. I’m not going to compare him to anybody, I’m just going to say he’s the greatest to ever play.

MT: People may not know that you were a math major at St. Johns before going pro after your sophomore year…
Artest: That was my favorite class, the most fun and most exciting for me. You never knew what the outcome was going to be depending on the question or the equation. But that’s what I liked about math, being able to come up with the right answer and know exactly what it was.

MT: Six years before college in New York, you began playing AAU ball with L.A.’s own Lamar Odom. Later, current 76er Elton Brand came down from Westchester to join you. Who was the best?
Artest: Elton was an inch or so ahead of Lamar, and Lamar was next, and then I think it was me. We were always neck-and-neck with each other as far as careers, but we all did different things and had different personalities. Elton was always the leader of the pack, but we all played our part.

MT: Anybody who has met Lamar knows how warm he is as a person. What can you tell us about how he was as a kid?
Artest: He was the same. He went through a lot, grew up in a rough neighborhood, but was always Lamar. He was always really funny, loved his teammates, loved to play basketball. Just like now. He is just a great person.

MT: Adam Morrison told me that “toast” was what he cooked best. How about you?
Artest: Nothing, really. My wife cooks everything. If I had to make something, it’d be something like a can of beans. (Something) I could stick in a microwave or a pot.


MT: He doesn’t anymore, but Kobe used to eat McDonalds quite a bit, game days included. Are you a fast food guy at all?
Artest: Not at all. I’m not a fan of fast food, it’s not good for you. I’d rather sit down and get something to eat … but if I’m going to get a burger, it’s going to be from In ‘N’ Out. I think they have the healthiest burgers, but I wouldn’t advise anybody to eat (any) fast food.

MT: What’s in your wife’s repertoire?
Artest: She makes Mexican food like burritos, Italian food like lasagna, sweet potatoes, mac and cheese … she makes all kinds of things and I love it all.

MT: Finally Ron, you’ve done quite a bit of world traveling, including treks to China and Kenya. What has that done for you?
Artest: Life-changing. It changed my view of the world and of myself, especially going to Africa. Just seeing poor people are. At the end of the day we’re all human – everyone feels the same pain, and it was (hard to see that). I’ve been to Honduras too, and it was also pretty tough. You want (all people) to be able to eat, you want them to have shelter, you want them to have water and be able to go to the bathroom. It was tough.

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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby GNC on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:38 am

i appreciate you ron :bow: :jam2:
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby gill on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:40 am

Ron is spot on with the Royal Rumble winner. :man10:
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby NoHomeOH on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:46 am

Lol I just can't see DJ fighting
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby therealdeal on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:35 pm

I admit when the idea of bringing Ron Artest to LA was being thrown around, I was hesitant about it. When he signed here I was excited by the possibility of having him play here after seeing his effectiveness in the Rockets series. Now I honestly appreciate this guy for who he is and what he brings. Sure he's got some anger issues, but he's a decent man.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby gcclaker on Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:48 pm

Artest loves math subjects...didn't expect that. He is articulate, funny and honest to a fault. He's been a positive addition so far this season. To think Artest isn't fully integrated yet but is doing nicely bodes well the rest of the way.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby karacha on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:08 pm

I actually knew that he was a math major. Artest is a very intelligent man, and actually... this shows in his game too: passing, alertness and court vision
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby gcclaker on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:18 pm

karacha wrote:I actually knew that he was a math major. Artest is a very intelligent man, and actually... this shows in his game too: passing, alertness and court vision


He is...I agree. The whole gangsta and 'hood image takes away from it. I have to add that Artest is witty and a fun interview to watch.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby JSM on Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:04 pm

That was a really good interview. He's by far my favorite Laker interviewee.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby icencream27 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:10 pm

MT: He doesn’t anymore, but Kobe used to eat McDonalds quite a bit, game days included. Are you a fast food guy at all?
Artest: Not at all. I’m not a fan of fast food, it’s not good for you. I’d rather sit down and get something to eat … but if I’m going to get a burger, it’s going to be from In ‘N’ Out. I think they have the healthiest burgers, but I wouldn’t advise anybody to eat (any) fast food.




:man10: In N Out and healthy should never be in the same sentence
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby TT24 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:19 pm

^ Their food is healthier than McDanalds, unless you get the burgers/fries animals style.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby RHCP on Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:20 pm

icencream27 wrote:
MT: He doesn’t anymore, but Kobe used to eat McDonalds quite a bit, game days included. Are you a fast food guy at all?
Artest: Not at all. I’m not a fan of fast food, it’s not good for you. I’d rather sit down and get something to eat … but if I’m going to get a burger, it’s going to be from In ‘N’ Out. I think they have the healthiest burgers, but I wouldn’t advise anybody to eat (any) fast food.




:man10: In N Out and healthy should never be in the same sentence


Ron is right, In-n-out burgers might be very caloric, but they use healthy ingredients and have healthy meat compared to other fast food places.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby gill on Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:48 am

Tonight will be one of those games that is a good example why Ron Artest is a good pick up for this team. Now instead of having an undersized Ariza or slow footed Luke or Kobe to tire out guarding a premiere SF in Carmelo, you now have a beast that can match up against him.

Go get 'em Ron! :jam2:
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby ChumsGum on Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:17 am

gill wrote:Tonight will be one of those games that is a good example why Ron Artest is a good pick up for this team. Now instead of having an undersized Ariza or slow footed Luke or Kobe to tire out guarding a premiere SF in Carmelo, you now have a beast that can match up against him.

Go get 'em Ron! :jam2:

exactly, games against the likes of carmelo are where artest will earn his paycheck.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby d.James on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:59 am

http://www.56.com/u45/v_Mjg2MDc3Nzg.html

Thanks Ron. You're my favorite. For every kid that wants to be an enforcer, all they have to do is watch you take on someone half your size for throwing a cup and hopefully they'll stop. For every budding Rick Mahorn out there, you stop them with your stupidity. Maybe they'll get some help for their anger issue.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby karacha on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:05 am

Ron, we need you to stop Melo tonight.

And d.James, thanks for the video, I'm sure it's something new. :man12: But use the youtube next time.
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby Tobias Funke on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:17 am

d.James wrote:http://www.56.com/u45/v_Mjg2MDc3Nzg.html

Thanks Ron. You're my favorite. For every kid that wants to be an enforcer, all they have to do is watch you take on someone half your size for throwing a cup and hopefully they'll stop. For every budding Rick Mahorn out there, you stop them with your stupidity. Maybe they'll get some help for their anger issue.


Whoa. When did this happen? Thats crazy!
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Re: Ron Artest Appreciation Thread

Postby ZenMaster4President on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:24 am

d.James wrote:http://www.56.com/u45/v_Mjg2MDc3Nzg.html

Thanks Ron. You're my favorite. For every kid that wants to be an enforcer, all they have to do is watch you take on someone half your size for throwing a cup and hopefully they'll stop. For every budding Rick Mahorn out there, you stop them with your stupidity. Maybe they'll get some help for their anger issue.


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