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Postby thkthebest on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:18 pm

Steve Nash (last season):

74.3% at rim
51.0% from 3-9 feet
50.0% from 10-15 feet
54.0% from 16-23 feet
58.5% from 3pt

He's the only person to hit 50+% from everywhere. Nobody else came remotely close to doing that.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby XXIV on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:27 pm

That injury scared me, and you could see how worried Kobe was when Nash fell. It's great news that he's going to be fine and it's nothing more than a minor tweak.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby Tobias Funke on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:28 pm

I was actually a little worried when all I heard about Nash coming here was how much he'd create for others. Im hoping that that doesn't go to his (or Mike Brown's) head and he ends up being too passive. Like thkthebest pointed out, the guy is a lethal shooter, and I hope they take advantage of that.

That's one of the things I like about the Princeton. It may take away from his ability to create sometimes, but it should get him more scoring opportunities as well. I dont think it's possible for him to shoot too much given his ability to knock them down at a high rate, and even if it was possible, its not really his nature to commit the offense.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby therealdeal on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:46 pm

^ Well in earlier games we saw him coming off of screens and whatnot. Fading to the corner or getting that wide open curl shot at the free throw line. I loved that play. It was very Ray Allen-esque.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby Finwë on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:59 pm

I don't want to sound over-concerned, but is it possible that not having the ball in his hands nearly as much as he's used to is also affecting his shooting?
I know he's an automatic mechanical shooter, but we all know shooters need rythm, and have different ways of finding it.. What if this transition towards playing more off-ball than he's used to is negatively affecting Nash's shooting?
He missed a couple of easy ones yesterday, especially that floater that would've put us up by one with like 30 seconds to go.. It could've just been a miscalculation, but I'm kinda worried there's a little more to it than that..
I'm probably reaching, but still, what do you guys think ?
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby nthydro on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:36 pm

thkthebest wrote:Steve Nash (last season):

74.3% at rim
51.0% from 3-9 feet
50.0% from 10-15 feet
54.0% from 16-23 feet
58.5% from 3pt

He's the only person to hit 50+% from everywhere. Nobody else came remotely close to doing that.


58.5% from 3? Must be a mistake. :man3:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby nthydro on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:43 pm

Finwë wrote:I don't want to sound over-concerned, but is it possible that not having the ball in his hands nearly as much as he's used to is also affecting his shooting?
I know he's an automatic mechanical shooter, but we all know shooters need rythm, and have different ways of finding it.. What if this transition towards playing more off-ball than he's used to is negatively affecting Nash's shooting?
He missed a couple of easy ones yesterday, especially that floater that would've put us up by one with like 30 seconds to go.. It could've just been a miscalculation, but I'm kinda worried there's a little more to it than that..
I'm probably reaching, but still, what do you guys think ?


I don't think he's the type of guy who need balls in his hand.

Not sure how many shots he averaged last season but I'm guessing not many since he only scored 12pts on high percentage shooting. I don't think touches are the issues. Probably more to do with learning and executing a new offense, finding his open spots, ect.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby therealdeal on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:21 pm

Finwë wrote:I don't want to sound over-concerned, but is it possible that not having the ball in his hands nearly as much as he's used to is also affecting his shooting?
I know he's an automatic mechanical shooter, but we all know shooters need rythm, and have different ways of finding it.. What if this transition towards playing more off-ball than he's used to is negatively affecting Nash's shooting?
He missed a couple of easy ones yesterday, especially that floater that would've put us up by one with like 30 seconds to go.. It could've just been a miscalculation, but I'm kinda worried there's a little more to it than that..
I'm probably reaching, but still, what do you guys think ?

Yeah, it'll be an adjustment, but I'm not all that worried. His negative shooting last night was probably more due to his ankle than anything else.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:26 pm

It was more of the flow of the offense than anything.

If you think about it, it was their first real time together against an opponent other than their bench.

Nash has so many options, he doesn't know what to do with himself.

Lob to Dwight? Find Kobe open? Pau on top of the key? Metta in the corner? Or take it himself.

That last shot he probably had 300 passes he wanted to make, thats just his nature, but he had that shot, and just left it a little short.That's what we're going through preseason for. To see what options Nash has. Take it to the rim? No one guarding me? I got that floater now.

No worries on Nash. These guys are still figuring out how much firepower they have.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby XXIV on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:37 pm

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Nash said his ankle is fine. Guys like him & Kobe have rolled both of them so many times that it's hard to do any more damage.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby thkthebest on Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:35 pm

nthydro wrote:
thkthebest wrote:Steve Nash (last season):

74.3% at rim
51.0% from 3-9 feet
50.0% from 10-15 feet
54.0% from 16-23 feet
58.5% from 3pt

He's the only person to hit 50+% from everywhere. Nobody else came remotely close to doing that.


58.5% from 3? Must be a mistake. :man3:

Sorry, I meant eFG% for 3pters. :)
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Postby JSM on Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:15 am

Nash might not lead the NBA in assists this season, but I am pretty sure he'll lead in the NBA in hockey assists. With Nash and Pau engaged in the offense, the ball moves so well and so fluidly (even with some of the 1st game confusion and kinks). Dwight is either going to get the dunk or MWP the 3...oh yeah and if those two options don't work, there's Kobe.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:54 am

^ That opening play for Howard's first basket? Gorgeous.

The best part is, that play was simple pick and roll with great spacing and perfect ball movement. Teams are really going to have a hard time defending that play because if you don't leave Gasol to help on Howard, he's got a wide open free throw line jumper. Just easy as pie.
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Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:11 am

JSM wrote:Nash might not lead the NBA in assists this season, but I am pretty sure he'll lead in the NBA in hockey assists. With Nash and Pau engaged in the offense, the ball moves so well and so fluidly (even with some of the 1st game confusion and kinks). Dwight is either going to get the dunk or MWP the 3...oh yeah and if those two options don't work, there's Kobe.


Instead of settling for the jumper though, I'd much rather have Gasol take it off the dribble like he did in a later play, and go aggressive.

Pau's shot isn't as reliable as it was when he first joined us, and I really want Pau to start going to the that left baseline hook again, it's unguardable.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby lakersStan24 on Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:02 pm

XXIV wrote:That injury scared me, and you could see how worried Kobe was when Nash fell. It's great news that he's going to be fine and it's nothing more than a minor tweak.

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Postby Battle Tested20 on Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:40 pm

I actually think that Nash's assists will be quite lower this year than most people think. It doesn't mean he isn't doing his thing or being affect out on the court, but just his mere presence and "hockey assists" will really make our offense run that much smoother.
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Postby jayy_zee on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:22 am

Am I the only one who has been disappointed with what they've seen of Nash so far this preseason? He's missing alot of these same shots he was making consistently with the suns. Even some of his passes have been bad. I'm seeing shades of the 2004 season all over again...
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Postby thisbjgz on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:36 am

jayy_zee wrote:Am I the only one who has been disappointed with what they've seen of Nash so far this preseason? He's missing alot of these same shots he was making consistently with the suns. Even some of his passes have been bad. I'm seeing shades of the 2004 season all over again...


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Postby Snake Eyes on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:39 am

jayy_zee wrote:Am I the only one who has been disappointed with what they've seen of Nash so far this preseason? He's missing alot of these same shots he was making consistently with the suns. Even some of his passes have been bad. I'm seeing shades of the 2004 season all over again...


I have seen parts of games via stream but tonight was the first time I really got to sit down and watch a game. I noticed Nash did not play well, but he still had a somewhat positive stat line: 7 assists, 4 points (only took four shots) and 3 turnovers. Not a great game by any means, but I think he just needs to adjust to the Lakers offense. Nash has always been a great competitor with an incredible drive. I still have full confidence that he will put things together and be a fantastic point guard for us.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion - Welcome to LA!

Postby GoldenKnight on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:59 am

Nash hasn't been playing like Steve Nash too often in the pre-season, flashes here & there but nothing consistent yet. The 1st game we saw more control of the offense by Nash instead of running the team offense and I myself thought he looked good in that game. Recently too much swinging the ball around with the whole team and by the time Nash gets it back he doesn't have too much time to operate. Hope this isn't the Ramon Sessions effect all over again, a player excels running the floor when he has complete control to the offense....until Mike Brown says no. They need to let Nash handle the ball more, nothing can go wrong when you let him do so.

Steve will find a way to be effective though, remember...he is the one that has to figure out everyone's sweet spots & know their timing. I am not worried about Nash, this is only the pre-season..we have 82 games to get it together as long as injuries don't play a factor during the season.
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Postby dj vitus on Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:49 pm

If it makes anyone feel better, he shot 2/17 in threes the last two pre-seasons combined, and he averaged only 6 to 7 assists.
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Postby MambaFromDownUnder on Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:06 pm

Nash and Jamison will be the ones who will come out of their shell when the games start having value.
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Postby Finwë on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:00 pm

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Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:06 pm

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Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:28 pm

Where's that pic from?
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