Steve Nash Discussion: Retiring; Lakers Disabled Exception

Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby Helljumper on Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:53 pm

He's not going to retire. The best we can hope is that we make a move for a younger PG that can push Nash to the bench.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby 432J on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:02 pm

his time is done

almost 40 years old and battling injuries this entire season. just retire steve
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby karacha on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:05 pm

He looks great in a suit.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby lakersyunowin on Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:27 am

pretty high on the list of laker-related disappointments for the year. put him in a home.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby The Rock on Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:57 am

Gonna be a frustrating 2013/2014 with him, we know he cant make it through the season but we cant trade him either ,looks like this trade value is quite low
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:11 am

40 years old PG in today's league ... ok
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby gill on Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:15 am

If only he brought the Phoenix staff with him... :man5:

We're stuck with him unless he calls it a career. He can be the team's Jason Kidd moving forward. Can't be the main PG but he'd look good playing alongside one or backing one up. Minutes have to be cut down.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby therealdeal on Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:02 am

Give us a legit backup PG who can step in and take control of games for 30-35 minutes. Blake is kind of that, but he's older too. I think we should trade Blake while his value is pretty high (decent player on a friendly contract) and try to get younger there.

That's all we can do. We can't trade a guy away from his kids, I just don't think we'll do that. That's a pretty nasty move from a franchise who is trying to attract free agents in a couple of years. We need to maintain a good report with the players.

He'll be here next season. Hopefully in a Kidd role.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:34 am

therealdeal wrote:Give us a legit backup PG who can step in and take control of games for 30-35 minutes. Blake is kind of that, but he's older too. I think we should trade Blake while his value is pretty high (decent player on a friendly contract) and try to get younger there.

That's all we can do. We can't trade a guy away from his kids, I just don't think we'll do that. That's a pretty nasty move from a franchise who is trying to attract free agents in a couple of years. We need to maintain a good report with the players.

He'll be here next season. Hopefully in a Kidd role.

I think Blake helps us more than Nash at this point all things considered. Nash is the 1 we really need to trade. He's not going to play in enough games going foward to help this team. Don't trade him away from his kids, send him back to Phx to be closer to them. They're so down on Shannon & Beasley that their fans are ready to take on Bargs. I still think Beas can lead our bench & Shannon would be good insurance if Kobe isn't ready for game 1. Of course we'd have to have another move lined up for a starting PG, but I think we can get that for Pau. Then shore up SF via free agency (Wright/Webster/Korver)
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby therealdeal on Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:39 am

Why does Phoenix want Nash?
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby khmrP on Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:42 am

lakersin4 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Give us a legit backup PG who can step in and take control of games for 30-35 minutes. Blake is kind of that, but he's older too. I think we should trade Blake while his value is pretty high (decent player on a friendly contract) and try to get younger there.

That's all we can do. We can't trade a guy away from his kids, I just don't think we'll do that. That's a pretty nasty move from a franchise who is trying to attract free agents in a couple of years. We need to maintain a good report with the players.

He'll be here next season. Hopefully in a Kidd role.

I think Blake helps us more than Nash at this point all things considered. Nash is the 1 we really need to trade. He's not going to play in enough games going foward to help this team. Don't trade him away from his kids, send him back to Phx to be closer to them. They're so down on Shannon & Beasley that their fans are ready to take on Bargs. I still think Beas can lead our bench & Shannon would be good insurance if Kobe isn't ready for game 1. Of course we'd have to have another move lined up for a starting PG, but I think we can get that for Pau. Then shore up SF via free agency (Wright/Webster/Korver)


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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby jlkr on Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:15 pm

Basketball Fan wrote:http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/27/steve-nas ... alejandra/

Lakers Star Steve Nash
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L.A. Lakers star Steve Nash thinks he has a good reason NOT to pay child support -- if he does, he thinks his ex-wife will spoil the kids with limos and other luxuries.

Nash is locked in a legal war with Alejandra Nash over their 3 kids. She currently lives in Arizona, where a judge handled their divorce and ruled she was not entitled to child support. She's appealing the ruling and we now know what they're arguing over.

Steve convinced the divorce judge -- Alejandra doesn't need child support because he made her a millionaire 5 times over in the divorce settlement. On top of that, she pulls in more than $30k a month.

For her part, Alejandra says Steve makes a million bucks more than her every month, and it's unfair he's not forced to use some of it for the benefit of their kids.

Steve is saying he's paying plenty -- 90% of medical, school and extracurricular activities, and 82% of the nanny's $2k a month salary. He says he's worried if he pays more, she's an excessive spender who will spoil and damage the kids with crazy luxuries.

But there's more going on here. As we previously reported ... Alejandra wants to move to L.A. but Steve is objecting. It's really weird, because the b-baller has said he chose to go to the Lakers rather than the Knicks so he could be closer to his kids.

There's one thing for sure ... if Alejandra moved to L.A., Steve would probably get socked with a big child support bill -- that's just the way it works in California.

If Alejandra had been smarter, she'd have waited until he moved to California then filed for divorce. Woulda got the child support then. Have to remember Alejandra is a model making her own big bucks, though not Nash-style big bucks. $30k/month is plenty to live on, that's $360k a year. But of course Alejandra sees that $9m salary Steve is taking and says some of that is mine! If Steve was smart, he'd retire now. Then all her income projections go out the window.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby therealdeal on Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:45 pm

D'Antoni can say he'll work hard, we all know that. But a 40 year old can only do so much to "come back healthy".

That just means he won't hurt himself more. There's not much he can do to just be a healthy basketball player. Not at this stage in his career.

And there's almost nothing that be done about a chronically bad back. That's not going away...
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby Tobias Funke on Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:11 pm

I think he can give you about 25mpg.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby therealdeal on Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:16 pm

Tobias Funke wrote:I think he can give you about 25mpg.

But can he do it for 82 games? Probably not...

Someone like Augustin would be great in that role to help spell him minutes.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby Tobias Funke on Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:34 pm

I think he can give us 25mpg, but I wouldn't call someone who disagreed with me crazy to think thats still too much.

The fact that we're sitting here discussing whether or not our PG that's makes $9M or whatever can give us even a half a game's worth of minutes shows just how gloomy the situation is right now.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby therealdeal on Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:46 pm

Yes, but it's also not as bad as we all feel. Right now we just witnessed the worst season in Laker history (maybe NBA history) and we're all feeling understandably down.

I think once things start moving we'll feel a lot better.

Heck I just read Ebanks' exit interview and I feel better already.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby Tobias Funke on Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:21 pm

Gloomy as in our PG, and I do think it is with Nash specifically. If he was our backup PG or was making less money then thats another thing, but he just cant stay healthy. Unlike alot of people Im fine with what he brings to the table when he is healthy, but at his salary its just not often enough. Age isn't usually as big a deal for me, but it definitely is when injuries and ailments are a regular issue.

Overall, a few savvy moves from Mitch and we'll be a much improved team once Kobe returns (I dont think it's possible to duplicate the amount of injuries we had again).
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby therealdeal on Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:51 pm

I see.

I guess yeah we're in a pickle with the Nash situation. What would you say is the best move then? I happen to think Blake probably has some nice value on the market right now. I'd like to use that to bring in someone young. I don't know who, but I think that's something that would help quite a bit.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:02 pm

I liked Steve Nash's exit interview. I thought he was right with certain points. Steve's health at this point is a question mark at best, though. He's had back injuries every year & you couple that with the nerve issues he's been having this season, it doesn't bode well by any stretch of the imagination. Going forward, I think you have to lessen his MPG & give him as much rest as you possibly could, IMO. You just hope that keeps him healthy for most of the season and maximizes his ability on the court to play at a high level.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:06 pm

I'm glad in his exit interview that he said that he isn't going to take time off this off-season. Get right back and continue the rehab and he said he will be back 100% for next training camp.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby Tobias Funke on Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:02 pm

We dont have a move really like you said, other than the huge unknown of trading. Sounds bad to say but we're kinda stuck with Nash, while Id actually prefer to keep Blake instead.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby therealdeal on Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:56 pm

Tobias Funke wrote:We dont have a move really like you said, other than the huge unknown of trading. Sounds bad to say but we're kinda stuck with Nash, while Id actually prefer to keep Blake instead.

Agreed. I'm getting a little thin of people with their Nash trade scenarios. It ain't happening for a lot of reasons. Nash is who we have to pick between the two.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby SpencerHarrison on Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:46 am

therealdeal wrote:
Tobias Funke wrote:We dont have a move really like you said, other than the huge unknown of trading. Sounds bad to say but we're kinda stuck with Nash, while Id actually prefer to keep Blake instead.

Agreed. I'm getting a little thin of people with their Nash trade scenarios. It ain't happening for a lot of reasons. Nash is who we have to pick between the two.


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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

Postby lakersin4 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:12 am

khmrP wrote:
lakersin4 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Give us a legit backup PG who can step in and take control of games for 30-35 minutes. Blake is kind of that, but he's older too. I think we should trade Blake while his value is pretty high (decent player on a friendly contract) and try to get younger there.

That's all we can do. We can't trade a guy away from his kids, I just don't think we'll do that. That's a pretty nasty move from a franchise who is trying to attract free agents in a couple of years. We need to maintain a good report with the players.

He'll be here next season. Hopefully in a Kidd role.

I think Blake helps us more than Nash at this point all things considered. Nash is the 1 we really need to trade. He's not going to play in enough games going foward to help this team. Don't trade him away from his kids, send him back to Phx to be closer to them. They're so down on Shannon & Beasley that their fans are ready to take on Bargs. I still think Beas can lead our bench & Shannon would be good insurance if Kobe isn't ready for game 1. Of course we'd have to have another move lined up for a starting PG, but I think we can get that for Pau. Then shore up SF via free agency (Wright/Webster/Korver)


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Nope.. He's on the books for next year 3.5M..
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