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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby BadCoaching on Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:12 am

Looks done to me.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:04 am

abeer3 wrote:i've been resisting, but...fork. he didn't look super sharp for most of the preseason, and he's perpetually injured at this point. hopefully, he salvages dignity and retires rather than opting in next summer.


Time for us to "buy him out" IMO. Having him here puts pressure on MDA to play him. This isn't a team that is close to doing anything of significance this season.... I'd rather use the time to hone younger players that may be able to help us rebuild rather than change the Depends on someone hanging on for a check. Buy him out and be done with it.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Savory Griddles on Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:31 am

Rooscooter wrote:
abeer3 wrote:i've been resisting, but...fork. he didn't look super sharp for most of the preseason, and he's perpetually injured at this point. hopefully, he salvages dignity and retires rather than opting in next summer.


Time for us to "buy him out" IMO. Having him here puts pressure on MDA to play him. This isn't a team that is close to doing anything of significance this season.... I'd rather use the time to hone younger players that may be able to help us rebuild rather than change the Depends on someone hanging on for a check. Buy him out and be done with it.


While I agree, it's never gonna happen. We should buy him out and trade Pau, and I would have said that before last night's debacle. There is no saving this season, so we might as well go down hard rather than limp along.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:40 am

^^^^ Lakers are going to use the stretch provision on Nash i.e buy out a player who has a guaranteed contract ... well next season
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:52 am

Don't know what to say about Nash. Guess we got him 2 years too late. He's a great personality but he can't bring it on the hardwood anymore...... :man6:
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:56 am

I heard Ireland saying something interesting yesterday. He stated that Nash is trying to get into a place where he is healthy enough to play at a high level; not anything new, right...however, me also mentioned if Nash doesn't healthy within the next couple of months, he thinks Nash knows inside, he won't stick around. At least to me, it intimated that Nash might retire during the season, but I might be wrong. Nevertheless, I think if he's not healthy by the Trade Deadline, he is either retiring or traded...
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby XXIV on Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:40 am

I would hope he retires at the end of the this season, but if not at least we have the stretch provision to use. I understand he wants to be fully healthy and may take things slow, only thing is it just doesn't appear as if he can remain 100% healthy anymore.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:41 am

dwighthowardsdad wrote:I heard Ireland saying something interesting yesterday. He stated that Nash is trying to get into a place where he is healthy enough to play at a high level; not anything new, right...however, me also mentioned if Nash doesn't healthy within the next couple of months, he thinks Nash knows inside, he won't stick around. At least to me, it intimated that Nash might retire during the season, but I might be wrong. Nevertheless, I think if he's not healthy by the Trade Deadline, he is either retiring or traded...

A couple people said yesterday that he might retire some time during the season if he realizes his body can't do this any more.

That'd be good. I'm not sure, but I think a retired player's salary needs some time to clear the books if he's leaving for medical purposes or something... The sooner he gets on that, the better. It's time for him to hang 'em up.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:28 am

He should sit out indefinitely until he's 100%. Don't know why he's forcing himself now. Let the young guns run.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:46 am

What was the offseason for? He could sit out the next 2 years and come back and wouldn't be 100%. That back is never going to be 100% and that is just going to lead to all these other little injuries we are seeing now.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby abeer3 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:29 pm

too bad, btw. I like nash quite a bit and wish he could have held on another year or two just so lakers fans could enjoy his skill and passion for the game. he's like the anti-howard in this regard.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby khmrP on Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:49 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:He should sit out indefinitely until he's 100%. Don't know why he's forcing himself now. Let the young guns run.


100% will never happen, his back has always given him problems.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:52 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:^^^^ Lakers are going to use the stretch provision on Nash i.e buy out a player who has a guaranteed contract ... well next season

Bingo. No one has really been talking about this and even Mitch alooted to this in the offseason that they will in fact use the stretch provision which is part of the new CBA that we can do.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Lakeshow24 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:05 pm

I'm about ready to put the fork in this dude. Sad to see him going out like this, I hope he can put in one more year of decent basketball but to be this early in the season and he's hobbling around... not good. It's actually pretty demoralizing...
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Armani on Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:30 pm

He's 40, and the Laker Medical Staff aren't miracle workers. The Suns made him look a lot more durable than he really is. He should retire ASAP... maybe he can be a good shooting coach for Wesley Johnson or something. It's sad, but it needs to happen.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:14 pm

If Nash were to retire before this season, we'd actually be under the luxury tax threshold this year. :man4:
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby snackdaddy on Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:43 pm

I know its a lot to pay for a backup. But having Nash play enough to spell Farmar isn't bad for them. Give Nash 15-20 minutes and Farmar 28-33 minutes and see if works.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Sirron on Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:31 pm

snackdaddy wrote:I know its a lot to pay for a backup. But having Nash play enough to spell Farmar isn't bad for them. Give Nash 15-20 minutes and Farmar 28-33 minutes and see if works.


I think this will end up happening out of necessity eventually. Whether or not he starts may not matter, but the better player will probably finish the game.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby sister golden hair on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:48 pm

He should be sitting until he heals up, if ever.

Watching him struggle out there is depressing.
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Postby Ras Algethi on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:50 pm

Dude is straight up done. So frustrating that Farmar gets pulled for him.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby sister golden hair on Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:21 pm

khmrP wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:He should sit out indefinitely until he's 100%. Don't know why he's forcing himself now. Let the young guns run.


100% will never happen, his back has always given him problems.


Poor choice of words. I realize his back has been wonky for years, but he played at a very high level. I meant that he needs to heal enough to at least approximate some semblance of what made him so good: clever passer and ball handler; dead eye shot.

Right now he can provide none of that.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby SK8 on Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:36 pm

Just retire and save us and yourself, such a big career so far and look at this now, this is so sad, i don't know what to say, he can't even hit that open mid anymore, wow this is new....
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Weezy on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:12 pm

He's forked, and therefore we are forked when he plays, sad. It would benefit him and us if he just retired. Him for not going out this ugly and us because he sucks.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:17 pm

Reminds me of Kareem's last year..... Hang it up dude.... It's over.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:18 pm

its just sad seeing him consistently beat on defense and not being able to make a shot
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