Steve Nash Discussion: Retiring; Lakers Disabled Exception

Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Armani on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:06 pm

themasterphil wrote:Nash please retire...please


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What, so we get blown out against the Cavs? :man10:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby themasterphil on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:10 pm

there is one worst thing then his defense...its his contract, two more years....they can give him a new one when this one finished.....haha
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:15 pm

themasterphil wrote:there is one worst thing then his defense...its his contract, two more years....they can give him a new one when this one finished.....haha

Posts like this are the reason I don't come here after losses.

I should have known better. You should be ashamed.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby themasterphil on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:17 pm

therealdeal wrote:
themasterphil wrote:there is one worst thing then his defense...its his contract, two more years....they can give him a new one when this one finished.....haha

Posts like this are the reason I don't come here after losses.

I should have known better. You should be ashamed.

why?? I just tell the truth, his contract is worst then his defense. Its hard to accept but thats the truth.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby GoldenKnight on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:28 pm

therealdeal wrote:
themasterphil wrote:there is one worst thing then his defense...its his contract, two more years....they can give him a new one when this one finished.....haha

Posts like this are the reason I don't come here after losses.

I should have known better. You should be ashamed.


It was only a matter of time before Nash starts getting the blame...ridiculous, the man is 38 & he is playing to the best of his abilities.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Armani on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:28 pm

therealdeal wrote:
themasterphil wrote:there is one worst thing then his defense...its his contract, two more years....they can give him a new one when this one finished.....haha

Posts like this are the reason I don't come here after losses.

I should have known better. You should be ashamed.


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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:35 pm

Nash is hurting the team by not looking to shoot more. He doesn't even get a chance to get into any rythm because he almost never takes a shot in consecutive possessions.

But it's obvious he gets overwhlmed sometimes by the taller, younger and faster guards in this league on both ends at times.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:35 pm

themasterphil wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
themasterphil wrote:there is one worst thing then his defense...its his contract, two more years....they can give him a new one when this one finished.....haha

Posts like this are the reason I don't come here after losses.

I should have known better. You should be ashamed.

why?? I just tell the truth, his contract is worst then his defense. Its hard to accept but thats the truth.

The only thing worse than his defense is your posts.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby themasterphil on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:39 pm

therealdeal wrote:
themasterphil wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
themasterphil wrote:there is one worst thing then his defense...its his contract, two more years....they can give him a new one when this one finished.....haha

Posts like this are the reason I don't come here after losses.

I should have known better. You should be ashamed.

why?? I just tell the truth, his contract is worst then his defense. Its hard to accept but thats the truth.

The only thing worse than his defense is your posts.


ohhh you really touch me with this.....now I am sad..... :man6:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby The Rock on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:44 pm

Why isnt he shooting more come on WTF. He really just shoots most of hte time if hes wide open
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Armani on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:46 pm

The Rock wrote:Why isnt he shooting more come on WTF. He really just shoots most of hte time if hes wide open


Not in his nature. He rather take the sure thing shot to go in... I saw it many times in PHX last year, too. He took like, 5 shots and that scrub Phoenix team would light up the scoreboard. He's the type of guy that can make a large impact on a game without taking a single shot.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:50 pm

Armani wrote:
The Rock wrote:Why isnt he shooting more come on WTF. He really just shoots most of hte time if hes wide open


Not in his nature. He rather take the sure thing shot to go in... I saw it many times in PHX last year, too. He took like, 5 shots and that scrub Phoenix team would light up the scoreboard. He's the type of guy that can make a large impact on a game without taking a single shot.


At the same time, if the team lacks offense and you have the ability to score, you need to pick up the slack. That's what CP3 does. Give the team what it needs based on how the game is going. I understand Nash can't break down a defense like Pal at 38 but he's got to pick it up offensively given the scrubs on this team or he's hurting the team.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby GoldenKnight on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:54 pm

Nash is a passer, he shoots the ball with excellent efficiency but does not shoot it often. He is who he is & who he always has been.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:59 pm

OKC was collasping on Nash and Kobe ...

I'm in the " Nash should shoot more" camp ... but with D12 out and a bunch of scrubs on the floor , Nash is getting way more attention from the opponent D ...

He's a good step slower and it looks like he couldn't create his shot at the rare moments he wanted to though
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:42 am

might have found something with jamison in the okc game. looked like whatever they were doing was working as jamison cut to the hoop. if we keep doing that with them both but have nash attack more then the d wont know what to do.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby The Rock on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:59 am

This is just inexcusable

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/290131461347090433


Steve Nash is attempting fewer field goals per 36 minutes this season than Larry Sanders.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:17 am

^^Nash is the ultimate facilitator..... playing with the most "stacked" team he's ever played on.... seems logical that his shots per game would be lower here than in PHX.

Usually his shot attempts come as a result of the offensive chaos he creates and he gets a mismatch of some sort that he can exploit.... that isn't happening here nearly as much as in PHX.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:19 am

Asking Nash to shoot more is like asking Kobe to shoot less. It's kind of pointless to want them to change that drastically at this point in their careers.

I only want Nash shooting more when it's clear we aren't getting offense from anyone else on the floor or in crunch time.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:16 pm

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/stor ... exist-post

EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- Steve Nash doesn't have an X's and O's answer for the optimum way for injured Los Angeles Lakers stars Pau Gasol and Dwight Howard to play together, but he does believe they can both figure it out by putting in the effort.

"I don't know what the best way is to make them play together, but I know one thing is that they both got to just play hard and believe and not worry about -- 'Hey, how can we make this work,' " Nash said. "We just got to fight and scrap and on defense, use their length and athleticism and on offense, we all got to just be unselfish and sacrifice and make plays for each other regardless of where we are on the floor."

Gasol has missed the past three games after sustaining a concussion against the Denver Nuggets when JaVale McGee inadvertently elbowed his nose.

Gasol will not play against the Cleveland Cavaliers after a Sunday morning evaluation. He will be re-evaluated Monday.

Howard also has missed the past three games with a torn labrum in his right shoulder. He participated in on-court conditioning exercises Saturday and will be re-evaluated Sunday. The Lakers are officially listing Howard as out, but coach Mike D'Antoni said he will be a game-time decision.

While Gasol has been out, the Lakers (15-21) have floundered, losing three straight games to extend their losing streak to six -- the worst skid for the franchise since it lost seven in a row in March 2007.

Nash also said it will be part of his responsibility as a point guard to get Gasol going when the big men do get back in the lineup. Gasol is averaging career lows in both points per game (12.1) and shooting percentage (41.6 percent) this season.

"I'm going to try to get Pau involved," Nash said. "Obviously, I think he's a terrific player. I think when we played together recently, there was a lot of opportunities where (the defense) would jump out on my pick-and-rolls, I'd get it back to him quickly. He can be the playmaker in 4-on-3, 3-on-2 situations where he really thrives. The fact of the matter, it's tough to get inside to him when Dwight and him are on the floor together. To Pau's credit, he can stretch the floor more than Dwight and he's more of a playmaker, so sometimes he's going to find himself on the perimeter."

In Nash's opinion, it's Gasol's mental game, not his positioning on the court, that matters most. "I think Pau is a tremendous basketball player," Nash said. "I need to see him get his health and his confidence back. Even when he has been inside this year he hasn't looked very confident. For me, I really want to see him really feel better physically, mentally, confident and enjoy the game because I don't know if he's been himself this year. If we can get him back to himself, it doesn't matter where he plays. He'll be great."

Lakers executive vice president of player personnel Jim Buss told ESPNLA 710 radio in Los Angeles on Thursday that when Gasol returns, he wants the former four-time All-Star to receive more touches on the block.

"I love Pau Gasol," Buss said. "The thing is, if you shoot the basketball from six feet, your percentages are going to be in the high 50s. If you shoot from 18 feet, you're lucky to get 40 percent. To base his year off of his shooting percentages is just not the right way to analyze how he's playing.

"I believe if we can get him down low, he can coexist with Dwight Howard if they play enough games to where they can play off each other. I believe eventually he will move down there and D'Antoni will move him down there and his percentage will go back right to where it was."

D'Antoni said he has spoken to Buss and general manager Mitch Kupchak about fixing things for Gasol before the Lakers lost to the Oklahoma City Thunder 116-101 on Friday.

"We talked about it and I think it's pretty evident we'd like to get him more touches down there," D'Antoni said. "... There are going to be a lot of changes (when Gasol and Howard return). We have to try to do everything and if that works, yeah, we'll do it in a heartbeat."
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Finwë on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:11 pm

Nash is spot on in that article.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:13 pm

"I think Pau is a tremendous basketball player," Nash said. "I need to see him get his health and his confidence back. Even when he has been inside this year he hasn't looked very confident. For me, I really want to see him really feel better physically, mentally, confident and enjoy the game because I don't know if he's been himself this year. If we can get him back to himself, it doesn't matter where he plays. He'll be great."

i think we've all felt this way at some point in time, hopefully he can help make it happen.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Lakeshow24 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:49 am

Lots of talking... let's get it together and start balling the way we should be balling. We have the potential. We certainly missed him and Dwight against OKC.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:56 am

The Rock wrote:This is just inexcusable

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/290131461347090433


Steve Nash is attempting fewer field goals per 36 minutes this season than Larry Sanders.

How many times does it have to be said?

Nash is not a score first point guard. He's a pass first one.

His job is to facilitate the offense. In Phoenix he averaged just 12 ppg and now he's playing with Kobe Bryant and averaging about 11. Don't know why you people expect him to change after all these years when he's consistently been pass first.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:05 am

Rooscooter wrote:^^Nash is the ultimate facilitator..... playing with the most "stacked" team he's ever played on.... seems logical that his shots per game would be lower here than in PHX.

Usually his shot attempts come as a result of the offensive chaos he creates and he gets a mismatch of some sort that he can exploit.... that isn't happening here nearly as much as in PHX.

Yeah this.

Steve isn't going to look for his shot very often on this team. It's a LOT less than I thought it would be, but it's still not that bad. I'd like to see him closer to 10 shots a game though. Just to keep teams honest and let's face it he's our best shooter so we need those high percentage shots.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: 10k assist club

Postby karacha on Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:25 pm

I would like Steve to consciously take ~2 more shots a game if possible. In addition to creating his own shots, which he is awesome at -- he could maybe spot up for a long jumper or two. Dwight set him up really well last night and Steve knocked down a jumper without hesitation. He's truly an amazing shooter. Against Cleveland, he took one mid-range jumper.... and the ball bounced off the rim. I was so surprised to see that... how in the world did that not go in?! This is Nash we're talking about! However, while I was thinking that, the ball came down and it went through the hoop. :man10:
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