Steve Nash Discussion: Retiring; Lakers Disabled Exception

Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Magic Skywalker on Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:33 am

The guy shot horrible and had "just" 6 assists, but he really gave a passing clinic last night.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:12 am

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Explanation for Nash’s rare off shooting night (2 for 11): he tweaked his back in the 1st Q and had no mobility.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:20 pm

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Performance, clutch 3 and Lakers victory today from @SteveNash all the more impressive considering back spasms he overcame.


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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby yossarian33 on Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:21 pm

Congrats to Steve, one of my favourite players; on passing Magic, my all time favourite player in assists. :jam2: :bow:

Now let's see this team keep rolling into the playoffs and make some noise when it counts.

Maybe the wrong place i realize, but also loving Rudy Gay on the Raps right now. Finally something to cheer for there, even though i was a big Calderon fan.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Weezy on Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:30 pm

He's clutch as hell, every time he shoots in late game situations I feel like it's going in.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Jellincon on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:34 pm

Took over in the 3rd and generated a lot of easy looks for everyone on O. Clutch as usual down the stretch.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby karacha on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:50 pm

Aside from being clutch, Nash has a very good tolerance for pain. He's a real warrior.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby JLaker17 on Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:06 pm

So clutch
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:25 pm

I think it might be worth pulling a Popovich here and resting Nash tomorrow. He would have until Thursday off then

Not gonna happen but it might be a good move
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:48 am

Nash is 12/17 in the clutch ( 5 min left in the 4th , game score margin within 5pts) this season ... 5/7 from three pts land

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:01 am

There was a point yesterday when Steve took over the game. I want to say it was in the 3rd.

But I was watching him do his thing and I just couldn't help thinking "why the f*** are we fighting for the 8th seed?" :man10:

Were we THAT banged up?? Was our chemistry THAT awful?... Geez. We've got an amazing PG, the best C, and the best SG. What the hell?
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby karacha on Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:39 am

Yes, our chemistry was that awful, and we were banged up. Then we got a new coach and no one, except one player, knew how to play in his system.

If we played like this from the start we'd be a .650-.700+ team and probably top 2 in the West. So... yeah. It was that awful. Once MDA made some adjustments, Dwight and Kobe figured everything out, Nash said "eff it, I'm going to shoot the ball" and Clark&Jamison became major factors... we became a .700+ team. And that's without Pau Gasol.Perhaps too late, but at least we're watching some good basketball right now. Better then nothing.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:56 am

^^^ At least it makes it way easier for the FO this offseason in addressing what this team needs to put them over the top.

Nash/Kobe/D12/Clark/Hill/Jamison/Meeks......they work and are starting to work well with each other. Now the FO has to decide how to incorporate 1-2 wing players in that scenario to plug the holes we have on this team right now.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby The Rock on Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:17 am

We still have some weaknesses though, no reliable backup big, no speed out in the perimeter, no 3 point shooting SF/PF who can defend. I think we can win grindout games, thats the Lakers style but how can we control tempo when we're going 4 on 5 these days on offense. We're doing ok now with Kobe dropping 40 a night but he cant do this every game
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:11 pm

Doc Brown wrote:^^^ At least it makes it way easier for the FO this offseason in addressing what this team needs to put them over the top.

Nash/Kobe/D12/Clark/Hill/Jamison/Meeks......they work and are starting to work well with each other. Now the FO has to decide how to incorporate 1-2 wing players in that scenario to plug the holes we have on this team right now.

Yep. Now it's clearer than ever that Pau isn't necessary for our team. He's a luxury. Trade him for either a star if we can land one, or some young pieces and picks. Next season, health permitting, we'll make a better run than this season.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:39 pm

^ I wouldn't go that far. These last 3 wins were against an ECF 7th seed in Boston, a 10th seed in Portland, and an 11th seed in Dallas.

I like Pau but I am ready to move him as well, but I wouldn't say he is a luxury. He did play well in that OKC game we pulled out a few weeks back.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby gcclaker on Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:07 pm

therealdeal wrote:There was a point yesterday when Steve took over the game. I want to say it was in the 3rd.

But I was watching him do his thing and I just couldn't help thinking "why the f*** are we fighting for the 8th seed?" :man10:

Were we THAT banged up?? Was our chemistry THAT awful?... Geez. We've got an amazing PG, the best C, and the best SG. What the hell?

Players missing chunks of time led to disjointed practices. Not having time to adjust to each other means to team chemistry on the floor. Right now, everything is on the fly.

Re: Nash... It really helps when he looks for his shot in open space rather than deferring. His timely outside shooting was instrumental in keeping pace yesterday. In the end though, he was smart enough to give it to 24 and let him go to work.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:46 pm

Chillbongo wrote:^ I wouldn't go that far. These last 3 wins were against an ECF 7th seed in Boston, a 10th seed in Portland, and an 11th seed in Dallas.

I like Pau but I am ready to move him as well, but I wouldn't say he is a luxury. He did play well in that OKC game we pulled out a few weeks back.

He's a very special luxury. :man10:

Look, if he could net us Danny Granger or Luol Deng or someone in that mold, you don't think that'd be more important than what he gives us off the bench?

That's what I mean by luxury.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:48 pm

gcclaker wrote:Players missing chunks of time led to disjointed practices. Not having time to adjust to each other means to team chemistry on the floor. Right now, everything is on the fly.

Re: Nash... It really helps when he looks for his shot in open space rather than deferring. His timely outside shooting was instrumental in keeping pace yesterday. In the end though, he was smart enough to give it to 24 and let him go to work.

I actually don't like that plan on most nights. I don't like the Kobe-iso from the 3 point line. I'd much rather see an action that gets Kobe at the block so he's not so far away. Then I'd like to see the guys moving more. Have Howard set a screen for Clark or something. Don't just stand there and look at Kobe do his thing. We get caught with our pants down more often than not that way.

I know people missed time and whatnot... I guess I'm just disappointed that it took this long for them to get comfortable on the floor. Steve Nash now compared to Steve Nash in November is a completely different guy.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:57 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:^ I wouldn't go that far. These last 3 wins were against an ECF 7th seed in Boston, a 10th seed in Portland, and an 11th seed in Dallas.

I like Pau but I am ready to move him as well, but I wouldn't say he is a luxury. He did play well in that OKC game we pulled out a few weeks back.

He's a very special luxury. :man10:

Look, if he could net us Danny Granger or Luol Deng or someone in that mold, you don't think that'd be more important than what he gives us off the bench?

That's what I mean by luxury.


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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:02 pm

Right?

Imagine a lineup of:
Nash/Blake/min.
Bryant/Meeks/min.
Deng/Artest
Clark/Jamison/min.
Howard/Hill/Sacre

Isn't that nicer? Doesn't that seem to click better?
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:08 pm

Hell yeah with the way Clark & Jamo have been playing. They fit great with Dwight and although Pau has great vision, he does make it more of a struggle for Dwight (though in my mind, they CAN co-exist).

Deng is extremely efficient from the field, is young, AND can guard Durant & LeBron.

At that point , we're better off moving MWP IMO. He's momentum player. And although his D has been fantastic and he has given us timely offensive boosts (albeit rare & ineffective for the most part)I think his game would drop off a bit. Just a thought, not like we haven't seen him do it before.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:19 pm

The problem is no one wants Metta World Peace the player. :man10:

Metta World Peace the player is a great one-on-one defender, but is slow, unathletic, an offensive liability from just about anywhere on the floor, an unwilling passer, and a poor decision maker.

Just about everybody wants this version of Gasol. No, he's not what he was, but he's still a skilled 7 footer who is versatile and a good passer. Not a shot blocker and not a good help defender, but not a bad post defender and still a good rebounder.

The value is in Pau, not Metta. Even though Metta as an 8 million expiring is still a nice contract.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby karacha on Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:06 pm

Yes, Deng would be a great fit. Suddenly, with Deng/Clark/Dwight, you have a monstrous front court: Tall, long, athletic, all good defenders.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby TIME on Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:20 pm

Why are we discussing MWP and Deng in the Steve Nash thread? :man3:
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