Steve Nash Discussion: Retiring; Lakers Disabled Exception

Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby GoldenKnight on Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:57 am

15 & 12 at least Nashty!
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Finwë on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:09 am

I would like to see Nash really try to score tomorrow night. We're missing our THREE top bigs, I wanna see if he can score, say, 30. We're probably gonna lose anyway, at least let's see if old Stevie still got it like he did in these days:

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby MC on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:52 am

Chillbongo wrote:So what do we do, trade Nash?

Our team defense isn't covering his weaknesses. Trade for better team defenders to cover it up?

What's the solution? We know the problems... :bang:


Stop turning over the ball and designed long jumpers for a team that is not a stand still jump shooting team....

that would go a long way in reducing the transition points this team gives up......... not sure you can be old, average in half court D and turnover the ball at the pace the Lakers do either by piss poor shot selection design resulting in long rebounds or direct turnovers........

One of the advantages of a vet team is suppose to be in the taking care of the ball possession by possession and limiting turnovers......... this vet team bucks that trend in a big, big way......... under Brown's season this year it was expected due to learning a very new offense..... now it's a lot of the issue is the offense we went too.

This team needs to reduce these things for it's talent to overcompensate for the older slower thing..... not pump it up with MDA steroids........ nightmare.

Remember when you were a kid and the teachers, or may your parents, had you playing with object puzzles where you have to fit the ball in the circle..... square object in the square area........... well MDA would still be trying to figure that out jamming the ball in the square and the box in the circle....... most would than wonder if the kid is spatially challenged........ but in MDA somehow they have compared it to some sort of genius...... I guess he's rain man genius than because I have yet to figure that one out.....
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby LakerBoyz24 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:10 am

MC wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:So what do we do, trade Nash?

Our team defense isn't covering his weaknesses. Trade for better team defenders to cover it up?

What's the solution? We know the problems... :bang:


Stop turning over the ball and designed long jumpers for a team that is not a stand still jump shooting team....

that would go a long way in reducing the transition points this team gives up......... not sure you can be old, average in half court D and turnover the ball at the pace the Lakers do either by piss poor shot selection design resulting in long rebounds or direct turnovers........

One of the advantages of a vet team is suppose to be in the taking care of the ball possession by possession and limiting turnovers......... this vet team bucks that trend in a big, big way......... under Brown's season this year it was expected due to learning a very new offense..... now it's a lot of the issue is the offense we went too.

This team needs to reduce these things for it's talent to overcompensate for the older slower thing..... not pump it up with MDA steroids........ nightmare.

Remember when you were a kid and the teachers, or may your parents, had you playing with object puzzles where you have to fit the ball in the circle..... square object in the square area........... well MDA would still be trying to figure that out jamming the ball in the square and the box in the circle....... most would than wonder if the kid is spatially challenged........ but in MDA somehow they have compared it to some sort of genius...... I guess he's rain man genius than because I have yet to figure that one out.....


It's the roster's fault more than MDA's fault at this point tbh. The roster is clearly full of flaws and doesn't work. They build a top heavy team filled with big name stars that looks good on paper without thinking about how it well it might work out in real life. MDA is just the man who is forced to make the roster work, basically forced to try jamming the square into the circle part of the puzzle and make it somehow fit well enough to at least make a good enough puzzle, because there is no other choice.

The roster is hard to make major changes to at this point, and we're well out of options. There's no other choice for MDA or the organization. There is no coach who would want to take this nightmare of a coaching job with this roster atm, mostly because of the high expectations of this roster and the high failure chance of it; I'm sure MDA would reconsider if he knew exactly what he was getting into.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby MC on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:13 am

lakerboyz - they assembled a roster to be run one way than did a 180 degree U-turn after getting older and finding pieces to fit and try and succeed a certain way.....

the problem is FO pi-polar moves....... that is way deeper than MDA or not MDA

The koo-koo has gone left the clock......
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby LakerBoyz24 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:31 am

MC wrote:lakerboyz - they assembled a roster to be run one way than did a 180 degree U-turn after getting older and finding pieces to fit and try and succeed a certain way.....

the problem is FO pi-polar moves....... that is way deeper than MDA or not MDA

The koo-koo has gone left the clock......


I agree. I'm just saying it's not the coach's fault at this point, but mostly the FO's fault in constructing the roster(and hiring the coach for the roster).
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby MC on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:41 am

LakerBoyz24 wrote:
MC wrote:lakerboyz - they assembled a roster to be run one way than did a 180 degree U-turn after getting older and finding pieces to fit and try and succeed a certain way.....

the problem is FO pi-polar moves....... that is way deeper than MDA or not MDA

The koo-koo has gone left the clock......


I agree. I'm just saying it's not the coach's fault at this point, but mostly the FO's fault in constructing the roster(and hiring the coach for the roster).


oh ya..... but once a coach is here it is his responsibility to try and use the roster towards it's design... that is not going on..... and I think he's getting a free pass considering how the move transpired and what we were fed.

and he's getting a free pass on what it is to be a coach in the first place.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:30 am

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Nash, you should've gone to the Knicks bro. :man10:


dam you're such a fickle fan...should've kept it local and stayed a Mavs Fan bro!
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby 432J on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:00 am

khmrP wrote:
Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Nash, you should've gone to the Knicks bro. :man10:


dam you're such a fickle fan...should've kept it local and stayed a Mavs Fan bro!

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:05 am

LakerBoyz24 wrote:
MC wrote:lakerboyz - they assembled a roster to be run one way than did a 180 degree U-turn after getting older and finding pieces to fit and try and succeed a certain way.....

the problem is FO pi-polar moves....... that is way deeper than MDA or not MDA

The koo-koo has gone left the clock......


I agree. I'm just saying it's not the coach's fault at this point, but mostly the FO's fault in constructing the roster(and hiring the coach for the roster).


This. It's not MDA's "fault" but he was clearly the wrong choice for this team. Even more so, his offensive strategy is KILLING this team.... long jumpers, uptempo, lack of cohesion to get easy buckets...all this plays into our terrible defense, which is below average to begin with.

But we can win games if we fix our D and get better on offense....something I'm not so sure MDA can "figure out".
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:08 pm

khmrP wrote:
Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Nash, you should've gone to the Knicks bro. :man10:


dam you're such a fickle fan...should've kept it local and stayed a Mavs Fan bro!

I ain't even from Dallas bro. :man10:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:11 pm

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:
khmrP wrote:
Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Nash, you should've gone to the Knicks bro. :man10:


dam you're such a fickle fan...should've kept it local and stayed a Mavs Fan bro!

I ain't even from Dallas bro. :man10:


then keep it in Texas!
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Kit on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:36 pm

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:
khmrP wrote:
Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Nash, you should've gone to the Knicks bro. :man10:


dam you're such a fickle fan...should've kept it local and stayed a Mavs Fan bro!

I ain't even from Dallas bro. :man10:



Shame on you, bandwagoner...
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:28 pm

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Scnottaken on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:36 pm

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Juronimo on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:44 pm

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:53 pm

Spoilers for a reason :man10:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:04 pm

Congrats to Nash on 10,000 assists. He is ballin so far tonight, he should always have this much control of the offense out there.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:26 pm

he needs to be this aggressive every single game
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:28 pm

Congrats, just pathetically bad this team is when Nash is not out there, now I can see Phil rationale when he choose Howard over Cp3 inregards to building a team and not wanting 1 guy to control everything like Pg's do.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Ariza3 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:39 pm

3 point shot off few games now but shot really well inside. needs to play like this for the entire game. went away from it in the 3rd and 4th quarters. kobe iso a lot which ended really badly.

i expected this loss but was teased at first when it looked like they had a chance. but with a dleague player starting at center who has NO athleticism to carry him and fouls more on and-1's then shots made its sad. clark started well with energy but couldnt sustain it. jamison was still a 0 from what he should be.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby Armani on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:45 pm

One of the bright spots on the team. Wish he were a few years younger.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:03 pm

He looked completely depressed during the postgame interview.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby GoldenKnight on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:05 pm

Nash did his best, age doesn't even matter he did his job we just had a bunch of scrubs on the floor tonight. Not that it is any better when we have our starters but anyway...
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: downright Nashty

Postby GoldenKnight on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:06 pm

I feel for Nash, Payton at least got to see the finals wearing purple & gold, Nash might not even get to see the playoffs this season.
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