Steve Nash Discussion: Retiring; Lakers Disabled Exception

Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby DarthRekal on Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:35 pm

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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Lakerjones on Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:41 pm

Dare we say, he had shades of the real Nash at times tonight. Not most of the time, but some of the time.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby The Original 81 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:44 pm

Yeah he defintely looked better tonight, had a few shots rim in abd out, hopefully he starts to look like this more often.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:56 pm

Lakerjones wrote:Dare we say, he had shades of the real Nash at times tonight. Not most of the time, but some of the time.

I saw it too,there were times he was playing with a hop in his step. It looked good. Hit a few of those jumpers that rolled out and he has a strong game. A couple of uncharacteristic TO's but it'll get better
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:59 pm

This is the ceiling for him though. And if that's the case, we need a lot more minutes for Farmar. Farmar is the only guy on our team who is proficient passing the ball AND attacking the basket.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:15 am

Speaking of Farmar solid game IMO. 11 points 7 assists, 5 rebounds. Not a perfect game shooting or taking care of the ball but you can't really ask for more on the road. He needs more minutes.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby LakersN4 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:24 am

Lin isn't exactly fast & Beverly just isn't that good.. I think we just saw a crafty vet take advantage of 1 of the rare easy games at the PG position. Farmar & Blake also looked good.. Houston's defense isn't great unless you're attacking the rim.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby borri on Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:04 am

LOL, Nash got away with a bear hug on Lin to free up Blake. They replayed on TNT a couple times and i was laughing my arse off.

Nash you wiley old vet. He was sooooooo discreet about it too. No way a ref would have seen it unless they were specifically looking for it.

Stu always says, Nash sets the best screens in the NBA. Now i know why. :bow:
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Ras Algethi on Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:28 am

borri wrote:LOL, Nash got away with a bear hug on Lin to free up Blake. They replayed on TNT a couple times and i was laughing my arse off.

Nash you wiley old vet. He was sooooooo discreet about it too. No way a ref would have seen it unless they were specifically looking for it.

Stu always says, Nash sets the best screens in the NBA. Now i know why. :bow:


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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Ariza3 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:09 am

hopefully he gets healthier and finds his shot. but his IQ will never go away and he'll find ways to help the team win like the HOF player he is.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:01 am

Nash is a solid screener ... the screen on Lin was very John Stockton-esque
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:16 am

That was a great illegal screen on Nash.... with all the whistles last night that was the one infraction that was ignored all night. Parsons and Pau were doing walking screens all night. Good to see the consistency in officiating at the end.... :jam2:
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby charvin on Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:17 am

Rooscooter wrote:That was a great illegal screen on Nash.... with all the whistles last night that was the one infraction that was ignored all night. Parsons and Pau were doing walking screens all night. Good to see the consistency in officiating at the end.... :jam2:


That officiating was terrible throughout. It slowed the game down so much, but yes, thankfully they didn't call squat on that at the end.

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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:51 am

Credit where due: Nash had a solid first half and did a great job running the point last night.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:04 am

Steve Nash has seen it all during his 18-year NBA career, but nothing as daunting as what he is facing now.

He's facing the inevitable, the way they all do. He's facing the end.

At 39, Nash is coming off an injury-ravaged season that saw him miss 32 games with physical ailments ranging from his hip/hamstring to chronic back pain to a fractured leg that cost him 24 of those games – an injury that continues to cause lingering pain due to nerve damage.

It's a daily struggle for Nash, a two-time MVP and eight-time All-Star, just to get his body ready to play as the Lakers try to avoid a lost season with Dwight Howard in Houston and Kobe Bryant trying to return from a ruptured Achilles' tendon. There are hours of rehab and physical therapy, rest and ice, as well as the mental challenges that come with all of the above. Ask Nash how he's feeling these days, and he'll shrug and say, “Same old. With the emphasis on old.”

He faces the struggle with the same determination that has made him one of the most overmatched physical specimens ever to reach NBA greatness – a first-ballot Hall of Famer and one of the best point guards ever to play. But even the ever-optimistic Nash can see the horizon – the finish line.

He has this season and next left on his contract with the Lakers, and despite the pain, Nash fully intends to see it through. In a series of conversations this week during the Lakers' trip to Texas – first in a small-group setting after LA's loss in Dallas on Tuesday night and then in a sitdown with CBSSports.com on Thursday in Houston -- Nash opened up about rebuilding at this stage of his career, the physical challenges he's facing and a word he's not ready to think about yet: retirement.

Q: Is it enjoyable at this stage to look forward to this type of process?

A: Yeah, if I can get the body to improve a little bit more, I can really enjoy it. I really want to play. I really want to be healthy enough to be effective. I'm just on that verge of trying to get over the hump physically. If I can do that, I'll really enjoy it

Q: With the team, what about just having patience?

A: We have no choice. I think the biggest thing for us is we knew that coming in with so many new faces … no Kobe or Dwight, that's just such a big difference from last year. We know that this is going to be a team that's going to continue to improve, hopefully, and find an identity, but it's going to take a lot of time. That's not something that just happens overnight.

Q: How difficult is it to be patient with the physical challenges you're going through right now?

A: It can be difficult some days, but you get a good night's sleep and you come back at it tomorrow. You've got to try to be as resilient as possible and hope all the work pays off.

Q: How do you measure progress with that?

A: It's a feel. Obviously, just being able to do to the things that I'm accustomed to doing and doing them with comfort and ease and repetition -- it's gotten better throughout camp, but it's still not there.

Q: You've been able to address the health issues and the age factor with humor. But at some point does it become a legitimate, serious discussion you have to have with yourself about how much longer you can do this?

A: Yeah, and I've got 18 months. So we'll see. Hopefully, I can get through 18 months and contribute and produce.

Q: You're talking about this season and next season?

A: Yeah, think about it, right? That's about 18 months. So I've got to find a way to get through that and prove to myself every day that I can contribute.

Q: Do you envision any set of circumstances that would cause you to say, ‘You know what? Next season is not going to happen? I'm not going to be able to be the player I want to be?'

A: I don't think so. I'm already not the player I want to be and just [have] a different body. My body's different. I'm still trying to adjust and adapt and get my body to accept a certain amount of the pounding and forces and be able to adjust my game and still be productive. I still feel like I've got a lot of life left without basketball so I'm going to try to enjoy it and make the most of these last 18-20 months, whatever it is.

Q: Can you give people some insight into exactly what it is you're going through just to get yourself ready to play – as far as therapy and treatments?

A: It's OK. I've accepted it and enjoy it and embrace it as a process. It's been educational and it definitely takes a lot of will power, but I don't mind making the sacrifice. The energy and effort and commitment is something that I enjoy. But going through the pain some days? Going through the pain combined with not being able to do what you want to do out there? That's the inevitable equation that everyone faces at the end of their career – or a lot of people face at the end of their career. That's something you have to deal with, but right now I still enjoy being a part of the team and trying to fight to give my team something.

Q: So in your mind, retirement is not a word that you …

A: No. I'm not there yet. No.


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Interesting Q&A with Nash; From Ken Berger
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby therealdeal on Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:13 pm

Damn. Sounds like he has no intention of retiring right now...

Maybe it's a blessing in disguise? Maybe then we free up money in 2015? I don't know...
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Chillbongo on Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:40 am

Nah. He's a competitor. He can't call it quits because he needs to stay strong for his teammates and he's a class act who doesn't believe in quitting or half-assing.

I'm willing to guarantee this is his last year in the NBA. As much as I want him off our books, I respect him giving his 100% out there. I respect that he still has passion for the team and wants the Lakers to succeed. I appreciate that he is willing to mentor our youngins.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:15 pm

Mike Trudell wrote:Steve Nash has back pain and will not return tonight. He'll see a doctor tomorrow to explore further.


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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Chillbongo on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:40 pm

Done.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby dj vitus on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:45 pm

Chillbongo wrote:Done.

Well done.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Finwë on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:50 pm

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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:51 pm

Time for the ceremonial trade to Phoenix for the retirement ceremony.
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:58 pm

KEVIN DING ‏@KevinDing 43s

Steve Nash very concerned about nerve problem in his back. Reluctant even to say much because it's an "emotional" time.


This is so telling.....dude, just retire. It will help your quality of life in the rest of your life and it will help the Lakers
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:00 pm

Mike Trudell ‏@LakersReporter 33s

Nash very upset about health issues. Feels like he hasn’t been able to help his team, the worst feeling for an all-time “Team first” guy.


I do appreciate this coming from Nash, he knows he's been a bust for us
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Re: Nash Discussion: Is he forked? (167)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:02 pm

That nerve problem isn't going to go away overnight, 1 week from now, 1 month from now, 1 year from now.

The guy is just doing more harm than good right now.
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