Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

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Postby Lakerjones on Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:17 pm

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Weezy wrote:Please Nash, you gave it a shot and all it took was one hard hit for this, do the right thing.


Agree. No one can say he didn't try. Sometimes Father Time gets a decision. Sometimes it's a knockout.

Still undefeated.


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Postby kray28 on Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:44 pm

Hope that was it for Nash.
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Postby khmrP on Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:23 pm

SHOCKING :man4: ....that he even lasted this long
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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:41 am

NOw that he's played enough games to not be retired this season due to injuries, he's injured again for the rest of the season.

Sure glad I'm not cutting the checks for all these injured guys.
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Postby Weezy on Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:43 am

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:NOw that he's played enough games to not be retired this season due to injuries, he's injured again for the rest of the season.

Sure glad I'm not cutting the checks for all these injured guys.


He can still medically retire, if you play 10 you can't, he's at 9 right now.
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:21 am

These so called reporters keep giving wrong information ...

If he plays under 10 games , his salary wouldn't count towards the cap THIS SEASON
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Postby Weezy on Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:24 am

I think that's how most people here have been looking at it, if he retires before 10 games then his salary doesn't count against the cap next season.
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:25 am

^^^^ this season , not next season

Credit to Larry Coon CBA FAQ

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is excluded from team salary. This is when a player suffers a career-ending injury or illness. The team must waive the player, and can apply for this salary exclusion beginning:

If the player played 10 or more games1 in the current season, on the one-year anniversary of the player's last game.
If the player played fewer than 10 games1 in the current season, 60 days after his last game, or the one-year anniversary of his last game in the previous season, whichever is later
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Postby DJ-RaZ-Q#24 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:27 am

Kind of confusing. So if that's it for him, he won't count against the cap for 2014-15, right? What if he plays more than 10 games but retires after this season - any possibilities how we can get him off our cap for 14-15?
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Postby BadCoaching on Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:18 am

Great player but he's looking more than a little pathetic holding on this long.

Wants that loot I guess.
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Postby Rooscooter on Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:27 am

^^9 Million is a huge incentive to hang on…. Hell if someone was offering my 1/5 that I'd do everything possible to ride it out.
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Postby Doc Brown on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:03 am

Rooscooter wrote:^^9 Million is a huge incentive to hang on…. Hell if someone was offering my 1/5 that I'd do everything possible to ride it out.


He gets that money whether he's playing, retires or is forced into medical retirement. The only way he's not getting that money is if he pulls a J.Kidd.
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Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:11 am

I'm not sure he gets it all Doc.

I think the insurance would cover some of it but I'm not sure he gets the entire 9 million if he retires. I think he'll get most of it though.
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Postby Rooscooter on Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:21 am

Doc Brown wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:^^9 Million is a huge incentive to hang on…. Hell if someone was offering my 1/5 that I'd do everything possible to ride it out.


He gets that money whether he's playing, retires or is forced into medical retirement. The only way he's not getting that money is if he pulls a J.Kidd.


Maybe….. but medical retirement is a pretty hard hurdle to jump from what I understand. As long as he can play in games he's not qualified for that exception.

Insurance pays the Lakers for a portion of his salary depending on the policy…. it doesn't help us avoid any tax related penalties or open more cap space. The only thing that does that is a Medical Retirement that I know of.
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Postby LakersN4 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:42 am

Rooscooter wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:^^9 Million is a huge incentive to hang on…. Hell if someone was offering my 1/5 that I'd do everything possible to ride it out.


He gets that money whether he's playing, retires or is forced into medical retirement. The only way he's not getting that money is if he pulls a J.Kidd.


Maybe….. but medical retirement is a pretty hard hurdle to jump from what I understand. As long as he can play in games he's not qualified for that exception.

Insurance pays the Lakers for a portion of his salary depending on the policy…. it doesn't help us avoid any tax related penalties or open more cap space. The only thing that does that is a Medical Retirement that I know of.

If he takes medical retirement before playing his 10th game his salary will not count against the cap next season.
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Postby CaCHooKa Man on Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:35 pm

Mike Trudell wrote:Steve Nash is "probable" for tomorrow, expected to start. Nash participated in the non-physical portions of practice, then got treatment.


https://twitter.com/LakersReporter/status/432974478037897216
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Postby Savory Griddles on Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:38 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:
Mike Trudell wrote:Steve Nash is "probable" for tomorrow, expected to start. Nash participated in the non-physical portions of practice, then got treatment.


https://twitter.com/LakersReporter/status/432974478037897216

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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:41 pm

What's the over/under in how many games it will take him to be hurt again?
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Postby CaCHooKa Man on Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:48 pm

lukewaltonsdad wrote:What's the over/under in how many games it will take him to be hurt again?


2nd quarter on tuesday
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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:52 pm

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Postby pound4pound1 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:10 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:
lukewaltonsdad wrote:What's the over/under in how many games it will take him to be hurt again?


2nd quarter on tuesday



LOL...a strong hi-five on his way to the bench might trigger another injury
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Postby 432J on Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:58 pm

the guy just wants his money

he screwed the lakers over in the playoffs 7-8 years ago and now he's screwing them over again. i guess it'll just take a real serious injury to get him to finally retire
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Postby lotus on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:24 pm

lukewaltonsdad wrote:
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Haaa! Come on Steve, you are playing with my emotions. Make me hate you.
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Postby LTLakerFan on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:17 pm

432J wrote:the guy just wants his money

he screwed the lakers over in the playoffs 7-8 years ago and now he's screwing them over again. i guess it'll just take a real serious injury to get him to finally retire


That take is ludicrous. Right, Steve Nash is trying to screw the Lakers because he is an ex Sun. :what: Think about it honestly. Do you really believe that over the truth that the guy is doing everything he can to play again at least for this year for one last season even if he retires in the summer. And not go out with crappy, niggling injuries that keep him from playing because of discomfort.
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Postby Helljumper on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:14 pm

I'm gonna give Nash the benefit of the doubt. Everyone thought he was stupid for coming back at all, but he proved everyone wrong and has looked good in the games he's played so far. (Not good as in he's an elite player or anything, but he's at least competent, and to me that's a good enough reason for him to continue playing since it's clear he loves the game so much). Until I see otherwise, I'm going to assume that what happened in the last game was minor and he left the game for precautionary reasons. If he comes back and is significantly hampered in the next game or shows that he can't sustain playing in NBA games for much longer then I'll change my tune, but as of now, that's not the case. I get the frustration with the whole 10 game medical retirement rule, but the Nash hate on here is really unfair.
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