Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

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Postby Doc Brown on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:13 pm

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Mike D'Antoni says he "doubts" Steve Nash plays again this season, but wouldn't rule him out
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Postby Weezy on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:22 pm

Well, he got his 10 games in. :man11: How can he not retire this offseason on his own? How can he seriously think another season of NBA ball is an option?
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:32 pm

I wish he was off of the Lakers, he's just a 9 million dollar distraction. If you can't play more than 10 games in a season that you were as close to 100% for coming in, it's time to go.

I wish they would just tell him to hit the road or stay at home. Another season of playing a max 15 games with all the distractions and bullcrap in between is not what we need going forward.
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Postby SK8 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:41 pm

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One thing's certain: Nash wants to return next season. "I want to come back for sure," he said.


What the....okey i'm done, i'm not getting in this topic EVER AGAIN, all my respect for Nash is gone, he is just being selfish to the max.
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:08 pm

Next season starting 5

PG : Steve Nash


C : Pau Gasol .

Bazemore is better than Stephenson though !
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Postby Chillbongo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:11 pm

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One thing's certain: Nash wants to return next season. "I want to come back for sure," he said.


What the....okey i'm done, i'm not getting in this topic EVER AGAIN, all my respect for Nash is gone, he is just being selfish to the max.

IMO it now looks like he green-lighted the trade from PHX to sabotage the Lakers. I know that sounds completely irrational. But let's look at the facts in this situation. I mean how could you conceivably do your team any good by continuing to insist you want to play and are able to play.

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Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:19 pm

^^^^ Nash and MDA don't seem to lose any sleep because of our franchise struggles ... don't forget the possibilty for Nash to see his kids was a big factor when it comes to his team choice .

As you said , to voluntarily sabotage the Lakers sounds irrational but I truly think he doesn't give a [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] about our struggles
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Postby khmrP on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:35 pm

just buy him out and let him sign on for cheap on a contender...he's wasting everybodys time with his delusional "i'm gona prove everyone wrong" mentality.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:08 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
Uncle Drew wrote:
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One thing's certain: Nash wants to return next season. "I want to come back for sure," he said.


What the....okey i'm done, i'm not getting in this topic EVER AGAIN, all my respect for Nash is gone, he is just being selfish to the max.

IMO it now looks like he green-lighted the trade from PHX to sabotage the Lakers. I know that sounds completely irrational. But let's look at the facts in this situation. I mean how could you conceivably do your team any good by continuing to insist you want to play and are able to play.

:mad1:


It's the Lakers FO fault for not putting in an out in the 3rd year. They are clueless when it comes to these things. Should have been non-guaranteed or a team option. Nash is just taking advantage of the free money he gets for going to the gym and shooting around for an 1 hour every day and calling it rehab.
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Postby XXIV on Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:40 pm

It surprises me that he still wants to come back. It's become very clear since he's got here that his body is falling apart and he can no longer handle the physical toll the NBA season puts on the human body.

Just imagine that $9 million we would be paying him next season could instead be used to sign Stevenson.
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Postby 432J on Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:52 pm

yeah he's clearly trying to screw the lakers over

it's so obvious. he hates this team
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Postby denimPortugal on Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:02 pm

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Postby Chillbongo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:23 pm

Yeah the Lakers FO botched this up real bad. I remember even when the deal went down I questioned the number of 1st round picks, the amount of salary, and the 3 years guaranteed.

Given that we had just got Dwight added Nash to the mix it looked like we were going to be instant contenders so all those worries went out the window. We then literally experienced the worst case scenario.
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Postby angrypuppy on Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:05 pm

I understood the deal when it went down, and I endorsed it. Nash is (or more accurately, was) a remarkable player, and yes three years was definitely one year too many... but if that's what it took to get the deal done, then so be it. We realistically had a two year window and as we now all realize, those windows of championship opportunity are fleeting. I don't blame the front office at all for the structure of the deal.

What I do blame the front office for is losing Dwight Howard for nada. That was the most inept sales pitch in the history of mankind; hell it was suicidal. Howard didn't like Kobe, definitely hated MDA and by all appearances may have liked Nash the least of all three. And yet all three were the ones who made the pitch to Howard in the sales presentation last offseason. Why am I mentioning this now? Because those first round picks for Nash would have looked like a relatively trivial cost had we re-signed Dwight or even traded him. Losing Dwight made the Nash trade worse by at least one order of magnitude.

I also blame the front office for not having the cojones to talk to Nash about retirement or medical retirement prior to that 10th game. That was stupid, but hey... it isn't my money nor my cap space. That's on the front office.

It's like Kobe's contract: It is up to the front office to defend the Lakers interests, and it is up to the players to pursue their own interests. Kobe wants to be paid an astronomical figure ASAP, and Nash wants to believe he can play this year and next. It is up to the front office to communicate and negotiate according the the team's best interests, and within that capacity they have failed.
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Postby XXIV on Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:26 pm

Chillbongo wrote:Yeah the Lakers FO botched this up real bad. I remember even when the deal went down I questioned the number of 1st round picks, the amount of salary, and the 3 years guaranteed.

Given that we had just got Dwight added Nash to the mix it looked like we were going to be instant contenders so all those worries went out the window. We then literally experienced the worst case scenario.


Yeah the 3 years was what worried me the most but I figured we would win at least one title within that span of time, so I didn't focus too much on it.
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Postby Rooscooter on Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:58 pm

Nash needs to hang it up.... Plain and simple.
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Postby TheOp on Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:39 pm

You guys are kidding yourselves with this conspiracy theory bs. Nash didnt come here to screw us over. Realistically the team sucking bad this year only helps us in the long run. We werent going anywhere with our roster.

Once we get that number 1 pick you guys will be singing a different tune.
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Postby Doc Brown on Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:07 pm

TheOp wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves with this conspiracy theory bs. Nash didnt come here to screw us over. Realistically the team sucking bad this year only helps us in the long run. We werent going anywhere with our roster.

Once we get that number 1 pick you guys will be singing a different tune.


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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby charvin on Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:19 pm

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TheOp wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves with this conspiracy theory bs. Nash didnt come here to screw us over. Realistically the team sucking bad this year only helps us in the long run. We werent going anywhere with our roster.

Once we get that number 1 pick you guys will be singing a different tune.


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Better ask him for real lottery numbers, he's got a crystal ball and it says here that the Lakers will get the #1 pick :man10:
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Postby therealdeal on Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:38 am

I don't think Nash intended to screw us from the outset or anything...

But it's clear he doesn't care about the future of the team. It's clear that he's been extremely selfish. And it's clear that he's completely and utterly delusional about his future as an NBA player.
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Postby Rooscooter on Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:59 am

His condition is chronic..... It will not get better without low success rate surgery and even then the fix wouldn't stand up to the rigors of the league.

He's either hanging out hoping for a miracle or just cashing checks. Based on his feisty past I'd believe the former, but at some point I'll believe the latter.
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Postby charvin on Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:13 pm

Rooscooter wrote:His condition is chronic..... It will not get better without low success rate surgery and even then the fix wouldn't stand up to the rigors of the league.

He's either hanging out hoping for a miracle or just cashing checks. Based on his feisty past I'd believe the former, but at some point I'll believe the latter.


Well, if it's the nerves that are the problem, wouldn't any treatment be of no help at this point?
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Postby karacha on Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:48 pm

Nothing will help; he's 40 years old, will be 41 next year. Even if he did not have any medical issues, he is still too old to withstand the rigors of the game. That's reality and there's no shame in it.
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Postby Vasashi17 on Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:00 pm

There was a gust of certainty Monday, a rarity in one of the most uneasy seasons in Lakers history.

Steve Nash clearly wants to return next season.

"I want to come back for sure," he said Monday.

It's a longshot he'll even be back this season from recurring back soreness, but he's already looking to the future, where he's scheduled to earn $9.7 million in 2014-15 as the final part of a three-year, $28-million contract.

The Lakers have until Sept. 1 to determine whether they want to waive Nash via the "stretch provision," in which his salary is spread out over the next three years. Or they can bring him back for one more season and try to play him while paying him.

There's also a small chance Nash obtains a medical retirement from the NBA during the off-season, in which case the Lakers still have to pay him but his salary does not count toward the cap.

Nash has recurring nerve damage in his back that sidelined him almost three months earlier this season. The nerve irritation starts in the back and presents itself in his hamstrings, making it feel as if they're strained or pulled.

Nash, who turned 40 on Feb. 7, was enlightened when he had 19 points and five assists against Philadelphia on his birthday.

But he's averaging only 7.6 points and 4.7 assists in 10 games.

"When you look at an 18-year career, and like, one game against Philly?" he said. "But it meant so much to me just to say, 'OK, I showed I can do it still. Can I sustain it?' And I haven't been able to prove that yet.

"On one hand, it was extremely rewarding because it was [after] 10 months of pounding my head against the wall…. But then on the other hand, it was frustrating because it was right there and you take a knee on that old fracture and nerve root… it shows how tenuous it all is."

Nash reinjured his back in the Lakers' next game after Philadelphia. He played one more game after that but left at halftime and hasn't returned since then.

He did some light shooting the last few days but ruled out practicing with the team this week.

If he returned this season, he didn't mind being a backup, he said. Kendall Marshall and Jordan Farmar have split time at point guard in recent games.

"I'm totally up for whatever they want to do," Nash said.

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Postby therealdeal on Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:04 pm

:man10: :man10: :man10:

"I'm totally up for whatever they want to do," Nash said.


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