Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

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Postby Battle Tested20 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:10 pm

Doc Brown wrote:It would be funny if he got 11 assists tonight, shuts it down and expects to break the record next year....

Fast forward to next year and we don't play him one minute and when he complains, we tell him that he's just around for the money and we are playing for victories.

So cruel.

great plot twist
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Savory Griddles on Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:26 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:It would be funny if he got 11 assists tonight, shuts it down and expects to break the record next year....

Fast forward to next year and we don't play him one minute and when he complains, we tell him that he's just around for the money and we are playing for victories.

So cruel.

great plot twist


Nah. We're going to open against the Golden State Warriors who will sign Alexi Lalas to a 10-Day contract. Mark Jackson will start him at pg with the explicit instructions to scissor slide tackle Nash before the opening tip reaches it's apex, thereby keeping Jackson in 3rd place. The slide tackle will undoubtedly be fatal for Nash.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Battle Tested20 on Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:29 pm

^ :man10:
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:15 pm

Mike Trudell ‏@LakersReporter 2m
Nash being honest about where he's at. RT @KevinDing: Nash on Lakers next season: "They can't rely on me, frankly."
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:39 pm

Lakers should reply " you can't rely on us to wire 9.8 millions on your bank account"
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby TheOp on Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:00 pm

Whoever had that conspiracy that Nash came here to sabotage the Lakers. You were right.

I really hope this guy does not see a minute of the court next season. I hope hes not even in the arena.

And for the love of God CL needs to remove that Nash banner.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:17 pm

ike Trudell ✔ @LakersReporter
Nash has said repeatedly that he's going to try his best to get healthy before next season, but he just doesn't know how it will go.
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2nd tweet - You only proved that you can play 2 games and get injured before halftime.

Next season is going to be so frustrating to watch. Nash just in and out of the lineup, delusional comments, don't even want to think about it anymore.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby karacha on Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:29 pm

Yes, he can play at a high level. Providing he plays once a week, 10 minutes per game. Then yeah, he's still boss. Even at 40. Otherwise, forget it.

I mean, in that case (playing once a week) he's just disrupting the chemistry, and Marshall can give you much more then Nash at this point. He's younger, their passing is about equal, Marshall is bigger and stronger and never gets injured.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:34 pm

^^^If it comes down to it, if Farmar and Marshall are back next season. That's who should get all the minutes. Another reason why MDA needs to go.

We need a coach that will come in and not fall victim to playing names over better players.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:39 pm

The only value I see in Nash moving forward is teaching our rookie a few things about the League. That's really it. He's not going to play much. He's not going to do a lot for the team. He's openly holding us up to the flames and he doesn't care.

The Lakers are the most stand-up organization in the League. If Nash retired, the Lakers would find ways to get him the money. It's not a question that they'd give him his contract amount. Nash just wants the spotlight.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Vasashi17 on Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:16 pm

He WAS a hell of a pro and an athlete. I will never discredit him for that or even knock him on how candid he was about wanting to get paid...I mean afterall, we're the ones that offered that albatross of a contract.

One thing I can't get over is, had Nash not been signed, would MDA even be a coaching candidate for us after we axed Brown?

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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby LakersN4 on Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:42 pm

Vasashi17 wrote:He WAS a hell of a pro and an athlete. I will never discredit him for that or even knock him on how candid he was about wanting to get paid...I mean afterall, we're the ones that offered that albatross of a contract.

One thing I can't get over is, had Nash not been signed, would MDA even be a coaching candidate for us after we axed Brown?

:freak2:

If it wasn't Nash I think it would have been another PG.. Maybe just bringing Sessions back matching the Bobcats offer or a bigger name.. But it seemed like after the CP3 + Dwight plan fell apart they were determined to get another PG to pair with Dwight.. D'antoni's rep for increasing PG production isn't exclusive to Nash so I think he would have been on their list regardless, maybe not ranked quite as high without the Nash connection.. But we'll never know.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:53 am

Nash said he expects to be healthy in about three to four weeks. He said he had fun when he played this season and wants to continue to play, though he's also fine with a lesser role mentoring young guards. He expects next season to be his last. "They can't rely on me, frankly," Nash said. "Hopefully, I come back and play 82 games next year and the sky is the limit. But they can't rely on me if they don't know what I'm going to bring, so they got to evaluate those guys for next season." Yahoo! Sports - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.U2Yqm0QF.dpuf


Well he said it himself. Keep him on the sidelines.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby 432J on Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:42 pm

82 games next year?

i'd be shocked if he plays 82 minutes next year. it's sad seeing him fall this far after all those years of watching him dominate in phoenix, and it's clear he's still got the smarts and high basketball IQ that he's had for so long but his body is completely done. at this point he's just a waste of roster space and lots of money
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Postby Rooscooter on Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:01 pm

Wow.... in two sentences he says his team (who's paying him 9 Million) can't count on him and then hopes to play 82 games.... :disagree:

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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Vasashi17 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:09 pm

Jackson, in particular, found fault with giving Nash a three-year, $28-million contract and trading two first-round draft picks to acquire him in 2012 from Phoenix. Nash, 40, appeared in only 15 games this season because of chronic back pain.

"They took a flier on Nash that looked like it was going to be a really good thing," Jackson said. "Unfortunately, they didn't check with someone who had done therapy with the guy for the last 10 years, Alex McKechnie."

McKechnie was a physical therapist with the Lakers whose contract was not renewed in 2011. He now works for the Toronto Raptors and has conducted individual workouts with Nash and other NBA players in past off-seasons.

"They had cut ties with Alex, obviously, but still, Alex would have been a resource," Jackson said. "Steve has been hampered ever since that time and they kind of built the team around the way Steve plays."


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Postby Battle Tested20 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:25 pm

interesting.....

The writing was clearly on the wall then :bang:
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Postby Rooscooter on Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:43 pm

So.... Mitch pulls the trigger on a huge gamble while knowing that there is a trainer who's worked with Nash and didn't call him?
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Armani on Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:12 am

Rooscooter wrote:So.... Mitch pulls the trigger on a huge gamble while knowing that there is a trainer who's worked with Nash and didn't call him?


Yeah, this is bizarre. Had they invested in the proper medical training, healthy Nash would've been worth the money he's making.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:14 am

Two words for the day.....

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Postby revgen on Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:38 am

Rooscooter wrote:So.... Mitch pulls the trigger on a huge gamble while knowing that there is a trainer who's worked with Nash and didn't call him?


At the time that Nash was signed, there were reports that Jim Buss pushed for the deal more than Mitch did.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby lukewaltonsdad on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:08 am

In hindsight, the Nash deal was horrible; no team option on the 3rd year, giving up 4 picks that hampered our flexibility/assets to help us with a rebuild, and now dealing with a physically washed-up Nash taking up 9 million dollars and a roster spot.

Nevertheless, when the deal first transpired, I was excited about the possibility of having him; back issues have always been a problem with Nash even in Phoenix...the last season we traded for him he played a total of 62 games at about 31 minutes a game. Not to say he wasn't already physically declining, but the mere fact that his leg was broken the first game of the season ruined any chance of seeing Steve remotely close to what he was in Phoenix. It's a hard lesson to learn, but given the circumstances at the time, the decline in health to Jerry Buss, Kobe's career coming near to an end, we swung for it and missed badly.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby kenzo on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:15 am

Nash, Howard, Pau and Kobe looked good for the last title push. The FO knew they had a short window with Dr Buss ilness and Kobe's age.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby XXIV on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:18 am

kenzo wrote:Nash, Howard, Pau and Kobe looked good for the last title push. The FO knew they had a short window with Dr Buss ilness and Kobe's age.


It sure did, but we were banking on them being healthy which was a mistake. We had no depth to help offset the number of injuries we suffered.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby trodgers on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:37 am

Vasashi17 wrote:He WAS a hell of a pro and an athlete. I will never discredit him for that or even knock him on how candid he was about wanting to get paid...I mean afterall, we're the ones that offered that albatross of a contract.

One thing I can't get over is, had Nash not been signed, would MDA even be a coaching candidate for us after we axed Brown?

:freak2:

This is too frustrating to think about.

Rooscooter wrote:So.... Mitch pulls the trigger on a huge gamble while knowing that there is a trainer who's worked with Nash and didn't call him?

It's almost like PJ, a guy who was with the organization for eleven years, might know things and ways to help the franchise that a guy with no relationship to the franchise (I mean MDA here) didn't know. Who'da thunk?
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