Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby lotus on Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:36 pm

Savory Griddles wrote:
Psychobroker wrote:
Weezy wrote:
Frank Dux wrote:Steve can barely play 10% of his contract with the Lakers but he hasn't seemed to have any problems on the soccer field over the last few years.


To be fair, he only plays like 1 soccer game per year. By comparison he gave the Lakers like 15 TIMES that last season. :man11:


:man1: :man10:

Seriously though, this has got to be the 2nd worst contract in Lakers' history... right behind Luke's..


I gotta disagree. Nash is the worst because Luke didn't really prevent us from doing anything in free agency since we were never below the cap. And Nash makes twice as much. With no Nash we don't have to entertain the idea of giving up our 7th pick. We could be offering Stephenson and Lowry market value deals and still keep the draft pick as well as still having enough for a max slot NEXT offseason. Nash's contract is debilitating as it pertains to our rebuild.

Don't forget that luke shot 40% from 3 in the first half of the year before he got the big contract. That has to count for something. :man5:
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Postby TSpence26 on Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:09 pm

Yesterday I saw a video of Nash saying that a trade would make sense because he's a 40 year old PG who's always hurt lmao
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Weezy on Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:24 pm

TSpence26 wrote:Yesterday I saw a video of Nash saying that a trade would make sense because he's a 40 year old PG who's always hurt lmao


Yeah, and medically retiring would have made sense too. So would retiring right now. :man11:
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Postby khmrP on Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:45 am

ok, something I just thought of....I'm on realgm alot as well and posted same question there. Beasely was boughtout/stretch or something but he's only going to count like 770k+ per year for 2years and at the time he was still owed nearly 12mill+. With that said, anyone know the specifics of how Pho did it and if we can do that with Nash?
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Postby DJ-RaZ-Q#24 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:36 pm

What did we pay for the 2nd round pick ... man I'm pissed that we still have this douche eating up 9 mil. ... can't we just buy him out?
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:49 pm

Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan 8s

I'm told the Lakers keep Nash for now. They have until September to decide whether to waive him and stretch his $9.7-mill salary over 3 yrs


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Postby JLaker17 on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:50 pm

The moves we are making just does not make sense to me, I am speechless.
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Postby DJ-RaZ-Q#24 on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:53 pm

With Dr. Buss everthiny else we stand for died I guess ...
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:55 pm

They make perfect sense. Welcome to the rebuild that we're stuck with since we didn't land Melo.

Keep Nash's expiring contract. At the deadline we have 27 million dollars to move if we can add a good piece or they expire in the summer and we add a max level free agent then if we can.

No point in clearing up more cap space now.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Weezy on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:57 pm

This guy is a black cloud hanging over us. I'd say without him we could sign Lance, but our FO would probably just throw 9 mil at Ariza instead, they love their retreads!
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Helljumper on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:57 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:
Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan 8s

I'm told the Lakers keep Nash for now. They have until September to decide whether to waive him and stretch his $9.7-mill salary over 3 yrs


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


I'm happy with this ... as long as we don't expect him to play. That first rounder from the Lin trade is now a bit more valuable, and there's really no point in dumping Nash. I'd rather let him expire and be completely done with him next summer.
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Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:58 pm

He can at least stay in the locker room, there is no point in seeing him try to drag his corpse of a body up and down the court.
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Postby JLaker17 on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:58 pm

So the plan is to keep all our money available each year just in case a max level free agent does want to come to us?
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Postby 432J on Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:00 pm

god i really hate this guy
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Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:03 pm

Please send the Houston 1st to Philly + Nash. I don't even care at this point. If that 9.7 million opening can get us Stephenson, give me that right now.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby JSM on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:04 pm

Might as well let him start for the 10 games he has in him before he gets hurt again. Then he can mentor Lin from the bench.
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Postby jlkr on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:12 pm

I'm not interested in overpaying Stephenson, that's what it will take to sign him.
Rather keep the pick, it's looking better now, and let Nash expire.
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Postby tigerjeterkobe on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:17 pm

no way. If we can dump Nash with that Hou first we do it, period. For Lance?? No brainer. He will only get better, is worth 10 mil per each year, and can play PG, SG, and SF. Perfect compliment with Kobe, Randle, and Lin -- gritty, plays hard, hates losing, etc.

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Postby jlkr on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:27 pm

Guess we'll have to disagree as I don't think Lance is worth 10m/year.
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Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:55 pm

Philly is only at 37 million in cap room, they need someone like Nash to fill the cap, but keep them terrible. I want to know the reason as to why we aren't trying to pull this?
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby khmrP on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:59 pm

I see no point in dumping him with the Hou pick anymore, we have no more aspirations of being good next season anyways with these moves so far.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:02 pm

Well I do, so I'm for it, especially if we use the room to sign Stephenson.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:16 pm

Exactly Doc. No need to have 27 million in space next year for a weak FA class, and we all know that Kevin Love is going to Cleveland, or maybe Houston, and if not, who cares?? We have Randle now - invested in that.

We will have 18 million with Hill and Lin gone next year if we want, that is enough for Marc Gasol or Rondo, etc if we want to go that route.

Lance is well worth 10 mil per - consider his versatility to play several positions and great defense and rebound, and his grittiness to mesh wit Kobe and Randle. And then look at the money that guys like Hayward and Parsons are getting. I think Lance has a higher ceiling than them, and is worth more than Ariza by a lot.

I hope as soon as the Houston deal is final, we dump the pick (probably top 20 protected anyway) and Nash for Lance.

Better not do it and then sign Ariza.... :bang:

Lin, Mo Williams or Sessions for TPE?, Marshall
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Kobe, Swaggy, Wes (we need some size here)
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Kobe and Hill stay healthy, could make the playoffs (over Memphis or Dallas). Fun bench mob to watch. Good young pieces with possibly high ceilings (Lance, Randle, Kelly, Udoh). Cap room next year with some assets on decent contracts. OK by me.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby khmrP on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:18 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Well I do, so I'm for it, especially if we use the room to sign Stephenson.


even if you dump Nash, with Young and Hill contract you don't even have enough to offer him anything more significant than what he's already gotten from Indy and on top of that it sounds like our mgmt. wont even give anything more than 2 yr contracts if you're not a mega-star lvl player like Melo or James. There's no chance in hell Lance takes any stupid 2yr offers.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:21 pm

Offer Lance 3 or 4 years at 10 mil per, with player option?

With Bron back in the division, I bet that Indy ups its offer to Lance anyway.

I just hope we don't dump Nash then offer 9 million to Ariza.

We haven't renounced Bazemore yet, or finalized Randle, why? Still have a deal to make?
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