Steve Nash Discussion: Retiring; Lakers Disabled Exception

Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Helljumper on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:32 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Well I do, so I'm for it, especially if we use the room to sign Stephenson.


Especially if we use the room to sign Stephenson? Or only if we use the room to sign Stephenson?

Come on, I know you're fed up with Nash, but a first rounder is a valuable asset that we pretty much never have. You'd really use it to get rid of Nash even if we don't use the resulting cap space on anyone worthwhile?
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:36 pm

Only if we use it on Stephenson. Of course I don't want them to do it, just to do it. I'll take Stephenson over the 1st rounder all day.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Barnstable on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:47 pm

Nash is a 1st ballot HoF player and I think the Lakers won't stretch or trade him unless it's for a franchise player. It's a respect thing.

Not saying I agree, but I do think that's the case and we aren't stretching Nash to sign Stephenson even though I'd like to.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby khmrP on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:49 pm

Barnstable wrote:Nash is a 1st ballot HoF player and I think the Lakers won't stretch or trade him unless it's for a franchise player. It's a respect thing.

Not saying I agree, but I do think that's the case and we aren't stretching Nash to sign Stephenson even though I'd like to.


then agree to a low amt buyout and sign with a contender....Nash would be doing us and himself a favor
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:29 pm

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I know it's not a legit source. But with the news we've been linked to Ariza/Deng, I think this news might be somewhat credible.

Would be awesome if we could pull it off and still nab Stephenson.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby karacha on Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:40 pm

I would fully support this. In fact, if we add Stephenson I'd be quite happy with the offseason. Rebuilding with Lin, Stephenson, Young and Randle sounds quite promising.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Punk-101 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:42 pm

How do we get rid of Nash without taking back salary? Someone help me out?

If we still could get Stephenson...that'd make this offseason a success, to me at least.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:49 pm

^^^ We could send him to Philly, who has to reach the minimum salary threshold, with some 2nd round picks in exchange for nothing.

It makes sense for both sides. Philly wants to be terrible without paying anybody and we would like to get rid of Nash for nothing in exchange.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby trodgers on Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:57 pm

Getting Nash would require S&T - but isn't Stephenson RFA? If so, what are the complications? BTW, I just read an article this morning saying we're not one of the teams that has "serious" interest in Stephenson. I'd love to get him though. Love it, love it, love it. I'd like to offer to Okafor and Nazr Mohammed or Patric Young for a big or two. And there are guys we could add for depth.

Lin/Marshall/Kane?
Stephenson/Clarkson
Kobe/N. Young
Randle/Kelly/P. Young
Hill/Okafor/Mohammed

I know people aren't thrilled about Hill at 5, but that roster would give us options at basically every position.

Shooting: Lin, Kobe, Young, Kelly, Hill
Defense: Lin, Stephenson, Kobe, Hill, Okafor
Athletes: Stephenson, Clarkson, Kobe, Randle, Hill

Good mix of vets and tantalizing talent.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby 1bartg22 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:59 pm

Doc Brown wrote:^^^ We could send him to Philly, who has to reach the minimum salary threshold, with some 2nd round picks in exchange for nothing.

It makes sense for both sides. Philly wants to be terrible without paying anybody and we would like to get rid of Nash for nothing in exchange.


Yeah but why would Philly want him in the 1st place?
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:00 pm

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Doc Brown wrote:^^^ We could send him to Philly, who has to reach the minimum salary threshold, with some 2nd round picks in exchange for nothing.

It makes sense for both sides. Philly wants to be terrible without paying anybody and we would like to get rid of Nash for nothing in exchange.


Yeah but why would Philly want him in the 1st place?


Did you not read my post? :man3:
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby karacha on Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:01 pm

I agree; Stephenson is perfect for this team. He wants to have more responsibility. He plays D, shoots the ball, and he's young too. In combination with Lin, Young and Randle, that's a recipe for success, and the team would be gritty and entertaining. Suddenly, the future looks bright.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:02 pm

trodgers wrote:Getting Nash would require S&T - but isn't Stephenson RFA?


Stephenson isn't a RFA, he's an unrestricted free agent.

I'm confused at your getting Nash would require a sign and trade part?
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby trodgers on Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:06 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
trodgers wrote:Getting Nash would require S&T - but isn't Stephenson RFA?


Stephenson isn't a RFA, he's an unrestricted free agent.

I'm confused at your getting Nash would require a sign and trade part?

Sorry; moving Nash to GET Stephenson - as I thought he was RFA. I see he's not. That makes it a bit easier.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:26 pm

Sooo just dropped into the Nash thread for first time in days. Holy crap batman….we're getting rid of Nash and bringing back Stephenson? :jam2: :jam2: :jam2: :jam2: :jam2:

:man12: Is this total pipe? Yeah all of a sudden the team is looking not so bad if we pick up a big or 2 with a pulse to fill out the roster. I want to hear we have signed Kelly…… :man2:
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby davriver290 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:56 pm

So I like the Stephenson love here. I want this kid bad. We need a bad boy, too many softies on this team. A core group of Randle, Stephenson, Lin, Clarkson is a very bright looking future and some serious attitude. We need a change, badly. I really hope the FO is trying to get Stephenson. Is there any rumbling out there about us trying to obtain Stephenson? I mean, other than Lakers fans wanting him haha.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:00 pm

^^^ Of course, Mitch lurks on CL and gets most of his good ideas here. :man1:
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:03 pm

I don't just lurk, I post a lot too. :man12:
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:12 pm

Wow….you even B**** at yourself to pull it off. :jam2:
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby lotus on Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:16 pm

trodgers wrote:Lin/Marshall/Kane?
Stephenson/Clarkson
Kobe/N. Young
Randle/Kelly/P. Young
Hill/Okafor/Mohammed

Match that with some good quality coaching and you are on to something good here.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby LakersN4 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:00 pm

There's been some talk about a Dragic for George Hill swap.. I wonder if we can give Phoenix a 2nd rounder or 2 to let us in on that & send Nash to retire in Phx.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby jlkr on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:14 pm

Prolly have to overpay Stephenson ... which I'm not in favor of.

Also not in favor of Hill for Dragic now that team is paying Lin bookoo bucks to play PG and you're also talking trading big for small there.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby therealdeal on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:16 pm

Every time you guys bump this thread I get my hopes up that he's gone. :man5:
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby LakersN4 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:21 pm

jlkr wrote:Prolly have to overpay Stephenson ... which I'm not in favor of.

Also not in favor of Hill for Dragic now that team is paying Lin bookoo bucks to play PG and you're also talking trading big for small there.

No no.. I should have clarified.. The rumor was Indiana trading George Hill for Dragic, not Jordan Hill. I just threw Nash + picks in the mix because of his ties to Phoenix & them also having cap space to absorb him.
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Re: Nash Discussion: #injuredagain. nerve irritation. #andagain

Postby Frank Dux on Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:29 pm

LakersN4 wrote:There's been some talk about a Dragic for Hill swap.. I wonder if we can give Phoenix a 2nd rounder or 2 to let us in on that & send Nash to retire in Phx.


:man10: Dragic for Hill? That would be nearly as lopsided as Kwame for Gasol.


Phoenix wouldn't do that trade even if we included Randle. Dragic alongside Chris Paul and Curry was arguably the best point guard in the NBA. He put up 20 points per game last year on 40% from 3, and 50% from the field. Those numbers put him in rare company historically speaking.
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