#NBArank 6: Kobe Bryant

Frank Dux wrote:#6 is pretty fair considering how inefficient he was last season.

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

Frank Dux wrote:#6 is pretty fair considering how inefficient he was last season.

LOL you make it seem like it was his fault. It's his retarded coach's stupid offensive system and also his teammates for giving him the ball at the end of the shot clock.

KB24 wrote:I didn't expect so much common sense in this thread. I must admit, I'm surprised...

even the biggest Laker fans are getting used to the idea that Kobe isn't head and shoulders above everyone else.

Even though with him on my team...I kind of never get rid of that feeling that he can still win any game by himself alone on a given night. I still expect amazing things from Kobe and I still have the confidence to trash talk and feel confident in close games etc...I still expect him to score on a pull up J whenever we desperately need a basket...


ahhhh....I could cry when I think he is probably retiring in 2 years. I have never followed someone from his baby steps into his retirement with such passion and joy....extreme ups (championships, scoring sprees, clutch shots) and extreme downs (trade demands, finals losses, denver issue)...its going to such so hard for me...I will be devestated, I truly will.

When I sometimes here people talk passionately about someone from the 70s, 80s then I think...yawn. Having gone through this now...I fully expect to have the same issue in 30 years when I tell people how AMAZING this dude was that was named after a japanese steak.

I need to mentally prepare myself and that process has begun...I hope I can get in there in time for 2014.

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

Frank Dux wrote:#6 is pretty fair considering how inefficient he was last season.

LOL you make it seem like it was his fault. It's his retarded coach's stupid offensive system and also his teammates for giving him the ball at the end of the shot clock.

How did we rank the players?
We asked 104 experts to rate each player on a 0-to-10 scale, in terms of "the current quality of each player.

Rooscooter wrote:^^define "expert"......

Rooscooter wrote:What is the purpose of the ranking?.... fan popularity? Media popularity? ..... or maybe just maybe propaganda to hype the next round of up and coming stars..... ESPN is a "Partner" of the NBA in all honesty and they are complicit in marketing the game to it's fullest because they stand to make more money the more controversy they stir up..... Be clear..... they are not "Press" in the classical sense..... to be honest there is no "Press" in the classical sense anywhere.... The have no "objectivism" at all and it's pretty transparent who the staff meetings have focused on regardless of real on the court performances..... It was Paul and the Clippers rammed down everyone's throats last year.......

If you are talking about the most valuable player on a team that has a real chance and that player could make the biggest difference I'd say he's in the top 3 of Bron, Durant and Kobe with a pretty wide gap to number 4....

Rooscooter wrote:What is the purpose of the ranking?.... fan popularity? Media popularity? ..... or maybe just maybe propaganda to hype the next round of up and coming stars..... ESPN is a "Partner" of the NBA in all honesty and they are complicit in marketing the game to it's fullest because they stand to make more money the more controversy they stir up..... Be clear..... they are not "Press" in the classical sense..... to be honest there is no "Press" in the classical sense anywhere.... The have no "objectivism" at all and it's pretty transparent who the staff meetings have focused on regardless of real on the court performances..... It was Paul and the Clippers rammed down everyone's throats last year.......

If you are talking about the most valuable player on a team that has a real chance and that player could make the biggest difference I'd say he's in the top 3 of Bron, Durant and Kobe with a pretty wide gap to number 4....

Azndude2190 wrote:I understand there is a business aspect, but I think your looking into it way too much.

Doc Brown wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:^^define "expert"......

This link shows all the people who voted....

http://espn.go.com/nba/notebook/_/id/8270141/2012-nba-player-rankings-contributors

Henry Abbott is on there, probably gave Kobe a 1.

I'd prefer the ranking be done by former players. They played against these guys, they know the game better then most of these pencil pushers, they know who's good and who is not.

Doc Brown wrote:This is their "criteria" for ranking the players....

How did we rank the players?
We asked 104 experts to rate each player on a 0-to-10 scale, in terms of "the current quality of each player.

The difference in that averaged number between 6 and 10 is .19.....

Kobe at 8.88 and Deron at 8.69

Not that big of a difference and all it really takes is for a handful of guys voting to have a chubby for the player they are grading and it skews the ranking because it's based on their preference and not "current quality of each player".

KB24 wrote:I didn't expect so much common sense in this thread. I must admit, I'm surprised...

even the biggest Laker fans are getting used to the idea that Kobe isn't head and shoulders above everyone else.

Even though with him on my team...I kind of never get rid of that feeling that he can still win any game by himself alone on a given night. I still expect amazing things from Kobe and I still have the confidence to trash talk and feel confident in close games etc...I still expect him to score on a pull up J whenever we desperately need a basket...


ahhhh....I could cry when I think he is probably retiring in 2 years. I have never followed someone from his baby steps into his retirement with such passion and joy....extreme ups (championships, scoring sprees, clutch shots) and extreme downs (trade demands, finals losses, denver issue)...its going to such so hard for me...I will be devestated, I truly will.

When I sometimes here people talk passionately about someone from the 70s, 80s then I think...yawn. Having gone through this now...I fully expect to have the same issue in 30 years when I tell people how AMAZING this dude was that was named after a japanese steak.

I need to mentally prepare myself and that process has begun...I hope I can get in there in time for 2014.