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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:39 am

Weezy wrote:
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WilliamHaven wrote:well in that case, let's sign Gilbert! :kobe1:

One game and everyone freaks out :nono2:

Also, :man10: at people worried about Nick going 2/9 from three. Let's relax guys.... jeez


I was joking, I thought the :man9: and my other posts about how much stock I put in the Drew League made that clear ha ha.


I know you were, I didn't intend for it to be directed toward you or anyone particular. Just as a whole, fans tend to get a little too worked up over stats sometimes. I see it all the time, that's all I'm saying.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby Weezy on Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:50 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:
Weezy wrote:
Battle Tested20 wrote:
WilliamHaven wrote:well in that case, let's sign Gilbert! :kobe1:

One game and everyone freaks out :nono2:

Also, :man10: at people worried about Nick going 2/9 from three. Let's relax guys.... jeez


I was joking, I thought the :man9: and my other posts about how much stock I put in the Drew League made that clear ha ha.


I know you were, I didn't intend for it to be directed toward you or anyone particular. Just as a whole, fans tend to get a little too worked up over stats sometimes. I see it all the time, that's all I'm saying.


Ah, well I wasn't sure because I was the only person that mentioned his 2/9 from 3, that's why I thought specifically you were referring to me there.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:28 am

Rooscooter wrote:
Weezy wrote:Hope that's a joke, Arenas has been done a few years now.


He's playing as well as Young against the same competition.....

But once you put them against better athletes & much more skilled players in the NBA, none of those moves Arenas is using to live at the FT line work anymore & Young looks like a much better player when you take away the the ft's.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:20 am

Nick Young's stay with the Lakers may be for longer than one season.

The guard/forward's contract, signed Thursday, is a two-year, $2.3-million deal at the veteran's minimum with a player option in the second season.

Initially reported as a one-year deal, Young will earn $1,106,942 for the 2013/14 season and $1,227,985 if he decides to stay a second.

A Lakers' spokesman confirmed that Young's deal is for two years. Guard/forward Wesley Johnson, signed Monday for $916,099, has a one-season contract.

The NBA reimburses teams for players on one-year, minimum deals for any amount over $884,293 (this season's minimum rate for a player with two years' experience).

For Young at two years, the Lakers will be charged for the full $1.1 million against their cap and tax. Johnson will count as $884,293.


I don't expect him to pick up his option, but the FO must be serious about keeping him around longer than this year.

I really hope Johnson pans out and we get him as well. Johnson/Young would be two nice role players on a championship team.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby Phil XI on Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:59 am

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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby lakersin4 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:10 am

Doc Brown wrote:
Nick Young's stay with the Lakers may be for longer than one season.

The guard/forward's contract, signed Thursday, is a two-year, $2.3-million deal at the veteran's minimum with a player option in the second season.

Initially reported as a one-year deal, Young will earn $1,106,942 for the 2013/14 season and $1,227,985 if he decides to stay a second.

A Lakers' spokesman confirmed that Young's deal is for two years. Guard/forward Wesley Johnson, signed Monday for $916,099, has a one-season contract.

The NBA reimburses teams for players on one-year, minimum deals for any amount over $884,293 (this season's minimum rate for a player with two years' experience).

For Young at two years, the Lakers will be charged for the full $1.1 million against their cap and tax. Johnson will count as $884,293.


I don't expect him to pick up his option, but the FO must be serious about keeping him around longer than this year.

I really hope Johnson pans out and we get him as well. Johnson/Young would be two nice role players on a championship team.
Nice.. I like that they atleast showed him that we'd like to keep him beyond next year if he wants to stay.. I can see Young staying a Laker for a long time.. Seems to really love it here. Hopefully it translates to his game.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:32 am

He definitely took a cut to come here. If he performs this year, it wouldn't surprise me/bother me if he opts out for a slightly larger deal.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:25 am

you know we're gunning for Durant
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby Snakell Beast on Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:05 pm

Weezy wrote:I stand by what I said, Arenas is done, his game fell off the edge of a cliff like many former stars like Marbury, Hardaway, and most recently McGrady.


Marbury didn't fall off a cliff, he fell out of favor and had a bad attitude. He still had plenty of game left when he went overseas (and won a chip in a tough league btw). Hardaway was NEVER the scorer that Arenas was/is. He was a very good PG in his day but not on Arenas' level IMHO. He was also like 5 years older than Arenas is when he was "done".

Also, T-Mac isn't "done" either. If you want to say he is a shell of his former self, I agree. But dude was droppin' 31 a game and 62 in a game, so he has a lot to compare himself to at this point. He is DEFINITELY not that guy anymore, but to say he is "done" (as in no longer NBA player capable) is plain ignorant. I have seen him play this season. If you look at his minutes, shots, usage etc you'll find that those are what have "fallen off a cliff". He is far less athletic than he used to be, but if Andre Miller can still play in the league, then someone with T-Macs sweet stroke from the outside can still provide value for someone in limited minutes. As far as these players not getting the minutes, or shots or role they need to thrive...that is debatable.

The argument can be made that those reduced or eliminated roles/minutes/shots are because of the assumption (reasonable or otherwise) of diminished returns or some kind of liability presented by playing that particular athlete, but that is pure speculation a choice that is more habitual (in a copycat league) than it is overtly imperative based on inability. As far as Arenas' stint with Memphis goes, he stated that he was not really fully recovered from injury yet, that his role was NOT to score but to facilitate and play defense (not my choice for him, even injured as he was) and that he was mostly rehabbing his image by trying to prove he could handle being a small time role player.

Arenas has the ability to score. He is 31 and hasn't played a lot of basketball in a few years. He looks like he is in GREAT shape. If he was given, say, the green light to shoot coming off the bench for 15-20 mpg, I have NO DOUBT he could be a 10-12 ppg (on 42-45% shooting from 2 and around 36-40% 3s) Nate Robinson type of spark plug coming into games. Just because he either A. Isn't getting a chance because of the move toward athleticism and youth currently taking over the league or B. doesn't want to accept a diminished role on a potentially bad team or fill a spot on the end of a roster and get dumped again without having played, doesn't mean he is "done" or that his game has "fallen off a cliff".

You are assuming WAY too much. He said last year that he wasn't fully rehabbed yet, and that he didn't want to come back unless he felt it was the right kind of situation for him. Just because that situation might not come up for him, that does not mean he isn't capable of capitalizing on it if it did or recognizing it if it was offered. I believe that the Lakers training camp invite would be that opportunity, and I believe I would rather have Arenas on the team as a potential 10-15 mpg gunner/shot creator than a D-League invite, or someone like Goudelock or CD-R etc. I think he has more left to offer than anyone like that. Especially since, in Antoni's system, we won't be recruiting defensive specialists.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby KB24 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:39 pm

He sounds dumb in the interview. Its kind of annoying to listen to him.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:52 pm

He talks really slow, but I hear he has a very relaxed tone to him. Very reserved and soft spoken.

I think it's because he doesn't want to come off as anything more. Not sure if you read up on the story about his brothers. It'd make you want to root for the kid more.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby trodgers on Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:59 pm

KB24 wrote:He sounds dumb in the interview. Its kind of annoying to listen to him.

Hey, be nice! This dude took peanuts to come here as a young scorer. We need that, and we have to build him up. :man1:
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby OX1947 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:19 pm

trodgers wrote:
KB24 wrote:He sounds dumb in the interview. Its kind of annoying to listen to him.

Hey, be nice! This dude took peanuts to come here as a young scorer. We need that, and we have to build him up. :man1:


Doesnt change the fact that he sounds dumb.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby trodgers on Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:27 pm

OX1947 wrote:
trodgers wrote:
KB24 wrote:He sounds dumb in the interview. Its kind of annoying to listen to him.

Hey, be nice! This dude took peanuts to come here as a young scorer. We need that, and we have to build him up. :man1:


Doesnt change the fact that he sounds dumb.

We've all looked past that with you though.
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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby wallangong on Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:33 pm

trodgers wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
trodgers wrote:
KB24 wrote:He sounds dumb in the interview. Its kind of annoying to listen to him.

Hey, be nice! This dude took peanuts to come here as a young scorer. We need that, and we have to build him up. :man1:


Doesnt change the fact that he sounds dumb.

We've all looked past that with you though.

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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:55 pm

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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:00 pm

Get the aloe out.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby charvin on Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:24 pm

:man10:
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:37 pm

oh damn

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Re: Lakers sign Nick Young (p. 4)

Postby LakerFanIam on Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:43 pm

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:you know we're gunning for Durant



Exactly... F. LeBron & Melo.... Build a solid foundation for KD in 2016...

Kobe wants to play 3 more years...?

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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Finwë on Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:24 pm

Durant is THE player I'd want to get
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:54 pm

It's strictly hush hush... but everyone with half a brain will lead to that conclusion.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby live and die in LA on Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:09 pm

Why would Arenas even want to come back to the league? Where would the motivation be. He made 20.8 million last year just messing around playing in China and dropping 30 in the drew league. :man10:
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby JSM on Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:54 am

He certainly has an interesting fashion sense. Here is what he wore to the ESPYs

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/ph ... 1374159253
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:58 am

JSM wrote:He certainly has an interesting fashion sense. Here is what he wore to the ESPYs

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/ph ... 1374159253

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