Nick Young Discussion:Kobe= Batman, Nick= Boy Wonder (57)

Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby unpossibl1 on Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:59 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
unpossibl1 wrote:
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unpossibl1 wrote:However, I also think his comments about not tanking so a drafted player doesn't take "his spot" is extremely short sighted and selfish. .


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Confused? I'll simplify. Better draft pick=better chance at getting a superstar (either through the draft or trade). 1 Superstar=easier to attract other superstars. Multiple superstars=contender. I would like to think Young wants to play on a contending Lakers team, therefore he should want a better draft pick, which we get by losing.

Trying to win out of fear a rookie will take his minutes when the franchise benefits only from losses = short sighted and selfish.

Don't get me wrong, I love the way Young plays but it's time to be smart about things.


I wasn't confused. Do you take this same outlook for your job? Purposely suck at it so your employer gets better upgrades for the future.


Real world jobs have nothing to do with professional sports. However, if I was in a situation where my employer had already told me they want me to be a big part of their future for years to come (which Mitch has said about Nick), and they explained that we could put ourselves in a better position to be incredibly successful and fulfill all my professional dreams and all we had to do was be slightly less efficient for a total of about 7 hours I think I would jump at that opportunity.

We have gotten a great look at all of our players. We have an idea of our strengths and weaknesses...frankly we have a fantastic group of bench players, just no one healthy who should be a starter. We need more talent, plain and simple. No reason to mess up a chance at getting talent by playing guys who can win games for us.

For the record, I hate this system. It sucks and needs to change. Teams shouldn't be rewarded for being bad. For right now though it's the nba world that we live in and we have to take any advantage we can get.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:02 am

unpossibl1 wrote:Real world jobs have nothing to do with professional sports. However, if I was in a situation where my employer had already told me they want me to be a big part of their future for years to come (which Mitch has said about Nick), and they explained that we could put ourselves in a better position to be incredibly successful and fulfill all my professional dreams and all we had to do was be slightly less efficient for a total of about 7 hours I think I would jump at that opportunity.



Nick Young's job is to play basketball, he's not going to purposely suck at it. That's just the reality of the situation.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby lukewaltonsdad on Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:40 am

Love Nick Young...been a bright spot in a dismal season. I'd love to re-sign him; that's all depending upon how much money he commands, obviously. With Young & Farmar both wanting to be here and maybe taking a little less money, that at least helps in having a decent duo coming off the bench provided their both healthy.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Chillbongo on Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:54 am

Might be easier to keep our guys now than it was before. Farmar and Henry haven't been healthy enough to demand significant raises. Young wants to stay, potentially on discount. I think Farmar/Henry/Young can be retained for a combined $6M per. Marshall and Sacre are on the books. Retain Kelly for $1M and Bazemore as well. That's 7 guys for about $10M....that's our bench.

Hopefully we keep Hill for MLE level and we still have cap for a max player. We need that guy to be a center or point guard.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Armani on Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:40 pm

Meh, assuming the bench takes up 10-12 mil, and with Kobe/Nash making 33... we'll have taken up ~45 mil already. After that you need 4 very good starters to get back into contention. Re-sign Hill and you still need 3 others... 2 of them will need to be star impact players. This won't be happening anytime in the Kobe era, at this rate.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby kenzo on Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:48 pm

There's no way Farmar/Henry/Young can be retained for a combined $6M per. Just saying :man5: Young alone is getting 4+mil easily (from other teams that is).
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:11 am

i went to 5 of the last 6 home games and the crowd really loves swaggy, as do i. i hope we can keep him. but not for too much.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby LAKEROC on Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:39 am

^ The crowd loved Eddie Jones, the crowd loved Ronny Turiaf. They will find a new person to root for. Like the song says...."Let it Go"!!!
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:03 pm

LAKEROC wrote:^ The crowd loved Eddie Jones, the crowd loved Ronny Turiaf. They will find a new person to root for. Like the song says...."Let it Go"!!!

lol... awesome.

Let the one guy who gave a damn about wearing the uniform go. I was a fan of Eddie but he was a piece that we didn't need because of those two forgotten stars we had. Ronny was a cheerleader who we loved for his energy. Most fans wanted to keep him because we had a championship caliber team or was on the cusp of having one. Nick is beyond both of them and then some. He is a starter that does not mind being the 6th man. If we can get him back for a decent price you keep him period. Let it go? lol... Like the song said "baby won't you just staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"
For what it's worth, the Lakers also clinched the Pacific Division, an achievement Bryant dismissed by saying "We don't hang divisions." No, only the big NBA championship banners are considered wall-worthy for the Lakers.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Weezy on Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:48 pm

Yeah I really don't get how most here keep saying we don't need a bench player. Uh, we don't need a bench guy that can put up 20 PPG, like they grow on trees? Young is a starting caliber player, he comes off the bench because he's asked to. I get that he has flaws, but all players do, he loves it here, and I'd love to continue to have him here. We still have no idea if Kobe is ever going to be Kobe again, and if he's not, I'd be good with rooting for an entertaining guy like Young helping carry that scoring load for a few seasons until we find our next franchise guy.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby LakersN4 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:32 pm

Swaggy made 8M the season before he came here.. If he's getting offers anywhere near that we can't keep him.. If we can keep him for around 4M a season we should probably do it.. It all comes down to if we can still afford to bring in a max player that can make a real impact/make us contenders again. Mitch has always been a beast with numbers, I'm sure he'll make the right decision on Young without sacrificing flexibility.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:57 pm

^^^He made 5.6 million.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:15 pm

Farmar / Young / Hill

Do it Mitch. Bring them back. :jam2:
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Weezy on Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:21 pm

That was a sick performance, I'm not even mad, I was highly entertained. I'm with you Doc, give me those 3 guys back on this team, they play hard and with pride, they don't have an off switch when it comes to that. Get rid of 'Antoni, keep Hill, easy choice for me.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Armani on Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:30 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Farmar / Young / Hill

Do it Mitch. Bring them back. :jam2:


This. These guys understand the winning attitude that comes with being a Laker. Great effort from Young tonight.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby karacha on Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:11 pm

Haha, Young ruined us today with that scoring performance! :man10:
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:35 pm

Well, hopefully the basketball gods understand that the Lakers care about winning above all us and even though it may hurt us in the short run that in the long run this attitude will help us succeed in the near future because we aren't messing with the "game"
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby LakerFanIam on Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:01 pm

Like I needed another reason to hate "Swaggy P"....
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:03 pm

Well dammit...... most of those went in didn't they?
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:11 am

Rooscooter wrote:Well dammit...... most of those went in didn't they?


I think he was trying to miss but accidentally made some... damn him.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:25 am

Doc Brown wrote:Farmar / Young / Hill

Do it Mitch. Bring them back. :jam2:

Hell yeah.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby abeer3 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:30 pm

sucks that the two guys I want to keep most (young, meeks) both play kobe's position.
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Center Court on Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:16 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:Farmar / Young / Hill

Do it Mitch. Bring them back. :jam2:

Hell yeah.


throw in Bazemore
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby jlkr on Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:00 pm

I like Swaggy too, but let's not go overboard about the number of players the team keeps from this roster for next season...
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Re: Nick Young Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:12 pm

jlkr wrote:I like Swaggy too, but let's not go overboard about the number of players the team keeps from this roster for next season...


3 players is going overboard?
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