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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:05 pm

i like young. this team could use some of that youth, bravado, reckless confidence. i think him and farmar are gonna be very important this season.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:17 pm

Sirron wrote:I'll take guys like Xavier Henry all day over P whatever he's calling himself.

I don't disagree we're luck to have some punch off the bench. But, geez, act like you've been there. :man3:


I have had similar thoughts watching him the first 2 games. Not that he's in a really obnoxious league with it, just the old wow, act like you've been there before. And indeed it is one of the things I noticed and like about the way Henry carries himself. Kobe's game has earned it. Most of these other guys doing a lot of preening on any just "decent" play, not so much. Always have loved the fist to the heart just to let you know how big the player's is ..... :disagree:
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:21 pm

Sirron wrote:Ok, Weezy, I'll give it some time. :man12:


:man10: Me too. :man10:
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:19 pm

Unfortunately Young will piss off the fan base for a lot more valid reasons. I'll go on the record as thinking his antics are just this side of stupid and childish. That's his problem.... He's more interested in showing up people than having his team win.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby revgen on Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:36 pm

I'll take Nick Young's "antics" over Darius Morris' and Jodie Meeks' lack of talent.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Lakerjones on Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:37 pm

revgen wrote:I'll take Nick Young's "antics" over Darius Morris' and Jodie Meeks' lack of talent.


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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Weezy on Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:52 pm

I'm still not sure what these "antics" being referred to are. He has some flashy moves, and sometimes he makes a funny face when he hits a good shot, he just seems a little care free and odd, that's all I've seen. That's no worse than anything we saw from MWP though, some dudes are just eccentric. It's not like he's getting in guys faces and is taunting, or dancing around the court when he hits shots, or holding up some lame hand signal like JR Smith and others do. So again, I don't see the issue here, he just looks to me like the faces he makes and way he might shake his head and stuff is kind of an involuntary part of his game, like Jordan sticking his tongue out. Watch the up close angle replays of the shots he hit tonight and you'll notice what I mean. In the end though, this is entertainment, I don't take this sort of thing that serious, and again he seems like a genuinely nice guy in interviews and on twitter/Instagram to me.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby LOSLAKERS on Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:07 am

Was there something specific he did yesterday or is this kind a general thing from his past? Not really up to speed apparently.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:12 am

Yeah not sure about his 'antics" ... He will piss us off because he's a chucker and the experience may be a disaster with MDA greenlight ... consistency isn't his stength to say the least , Young will win some games and lose some games for us ...
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Weezy on Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:20 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Yeah not sure about his 'antics" ... He will piss us off because he's a chucker and the experience may be a disaster with MDA greenlight ... consistency isn't his stength to say the least , Young will win some games and lose some games for us ...


Yes, there will definitely be nights people are yelling at the tv for him to stop chucking and tearing their hair out, but that comes with this type of player. Kinda like Nate Robinson, his role is to score, but his "antics" aren't even close to Nate's so it could be worse. Again though, can't complain much for the price we got him for.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:49 am

Sure ... we needed this type of player who is able to catch fire during games for some time ... we'll see how it goes ... maybe the Kobe , Gasol and Nash can help him out to play smarter B-Ball .

He's a 1-2 seasons gamble , he's not going to hurt us for the long term if the experience goes bad
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:11 am

yeah hate on a guy who gave a HUGE hometown discount...someone who wants to be a Laker and will play his butt off for his fave team just to fulfill a lifetime dream
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby LooN3y on Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:05 am

yeah we were much better off with meeks, ebanks, and morris.


hell who needs nick young? i rather see us pass around the ball for 24 seconds.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:27 am

My only issue with Young is that when Kobe returns, I want to see Young come off the bench only. I don't trust him at all to play SF with the starters. I can already see that would not work. He and Kobe would not co-exist well on the floor at the same time.

But we've been needing a guy like Young for a long time: a volume scorer who can get his own coming off the bench. We need that punch. In the meantime he can be our Kobe replacement until he returns. Just don't expect a high shooting percentage or the greatest shot selection in the world.

He does what he does, and I'm happy we got him for pretty cheap. But I hope that D' Antoni doesn't expect him to be more (i.e. a starting SF), 'cause that's where things go wrong.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby MadMax on Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:36 am

What specifically happened yesterday to make you post this? I didn't catch 90% of the game.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby pound4pound1 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:40 am

kid's happy to be here and it shows...i dont remember him like this on other teams...i'll give him a pass for now...i kinda like the mini swag...our team needs it til the big swag returns
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:38 am

pound4pound1 wrote:kid's happy to be here and it shows...i dont remember him like this on other teams...i'll give him a pass for now...i kinda like the mini swag...our team needs it til the big swag returns


He's done on the other teams, esp Washington. He didn't get enough run in Philly do it, but you could say he's like JR Smith lite. Not as much and as downright stupid as JR Smith, but he likes do a little "showboating" after scoring.

I don't mind it. It gets the crowd into it, we already have a lackluster crowd as it is. But damn, when's the last time you've seen a player not named Kobe on this team pull a cross up, break his man off, and step back for a jumper. That was dirty.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Toklat on Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:45 am

Normally I might be a little bit conservative in this area but I'm so tired of watching our Lakers play timid and uninspired that I love seeing this. It is great to see some young hard working athletes going at it.. none of this when mid season gets her crap or when the playoffs start. This is like popping the cork on the champagne and shaking the bottle vs sipping a glass of merlot...
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Juronimo on Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:54 am

Lakerjones wrote:My only issue with Young is that when Kobe returns, I want to see Young come off the bench only. I don't trust him at all to play SF with the starters. I can already see that would not work. He and Kobe would not co-exist well on the floor at the same time.

But we've been needing a guy like Young for a long time: a volume scorer who can get his own coming off the bench. We need that punch. In the meantime he can be our Kobe replacement until he returns. Just don't expect a high shooting percentage or the greatest shot selection in the world.

He does what he does, and I'm happy we got him for pretty cheap. But I hope that D' Antoni doesn't expect him to be more (i.e. a starting SF), 'cause that's where things go wrong.


Yeah.

I think he could be our Jamal Crawford, he can be instant offense off the bench when Kobe comes back. Kobe won't be able to play 48 minutes a game anymore, not that he should have anyway but that's a whole other topic right there. :bang: Anyway that is one area where our team will be better this year than last.

Personally I'm happy he has a little "swag" or whatever in his game. We haven't had someone like that in a while. It kind of reminds me of Nick Van Exel a little bit back in the '90's. It makes it more fun and he genuinely likes being a Laker. Dude has been smiling since he was signed. How the hell is that a bad thing.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:19 am

Juronimo wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:My only issue with Young is that when Kobe returns, I want to see Young come off the bench only. I don't trust him at all to play SF with the starters. I can already see that would not work. He and Kobe would not co-exist well on the floor at the same time.

But we've been needing a guy like Young for a long time: a volume scorer who can get his own coming off the bench. We need that punch. In the meantime he can be our Kobe replacement until he returns. Just don't expect a high shooting percentage or the greatest shot selection in the world.

He does what he does, and I'm happy we got him for pretty cheap. But I hope that D' Antoni doesn't expect him to be more (i.e. a starting SF), 'cause that's where things go wrong.


Yeah.

I think he could be our Jamal Crawford, he can be instant offense off the bench when Kobe comes back. Kobe won't be able to play 48 minutes a game anymore, not that he should have anyway but that's a whole other topic right there. :bang: Anyway that is one area where our team will be better this year than last.

Personally I'm happy he has a little "swag" or whatever in his game. We haven't had someone like that in a while. It kind of reminds me of Nick Van Exel a little bit back in the '90's. It makes it more fun and he genuinely likes being a Laker. Dude has been smiling since he was signed. How the hell is that a bad thing.


^^^ That's funny, you totally read my mind Juronimo. I was thinking "Jamal Crawford" while I was typing that post about Young becoming our instant offense guy off the bench. Agree with you all the way. And yeah, the swagger doesn't bother me . . . as long as he actually backs it up with good play.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby therealdeal on Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:26 am

Lakerjones wrote:
Juronimo wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:My only issue with Young is that when Kobe returns, I want to see Young come off the bench only. I don't trust him at all to play SF with the starters. I can already see that would not work. He and Kobe would not co-exist well on the floor at the same time.

But we've been needing a guy like Young for a long time: a volume scorer who can get his own coming off the bench. We need that punch. In the meantime he can be our Kobe replacement until he returns. Just don't expect a high shooting percentage or the greatest shot selection in the world.

He does what he does, and I'm happy we got him for pretty cheap. But I hope that D' Antoni doesn't expect him to be more (i.e. a starting SF), 'cause that's where things go wrong.


Yeah.

I think he could be our Jamal Crawford, he can be instant offense off the bench when Kobe comes back. Kobe won't be able to play 48 minutes a game anymore, not that he should have anyway but that's a whole other topic right there. :bang: Anyway that is one area where our team will be better this year than last.

Personally I'm happy he has a little "swag" or whatever in his game. We haven't had someone like that in a while. It kind of reminds me of Nick Van Exel a little bit back in the '90's. It makes it more fun and he genuinely likes being a Laker. Dude has been smiling since he was signed. How the hell is that a bad thing.


^^^ That's funny, you totally read my mind Juronimo. I was thinking "Jamal Crawford" while I was typing that post about Young becoming our instant offense guy off the bench. Agree with you all the way. And yeah, the swagger doesn't bother me . . . as long as he actually backs it up with good play.

So far he's been exactly as advertised. A little bit of a black hole, but a good teammate and a dynamic play maker. Nothing to hate here.

When Kobe comes back, he steps into a more reserved role, but you have to understand that he's not going to be reined in exactly. More of a point and shoot type of weapon than anything else.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:05 pm

I know everyone is in full on "half full" mode right now but Jamal Crawford=Nick Young... :man3:

One is a near all star, consistent and plays the game with both his talent and his mind.... the other is very talented but not that cerebral.... The Market set the value of both of these guys and Young was available for a reason. If he was anywhere near Crawford's value he'd be pulling in 5 Million per on a 4 year deal right now for a contender.

I like Young's ability... not sold on his capacity to play within a system however.

As for his attitude. He's had issues with coaches and teammates in the past. He's been run for getting into it with fans and has gotten his share of taunting T's. Call is "swag" if you want.... it's not really part of what the Laker's have been about over the years. If he can control it and play his role he will be a tremendous help.... if not the he will still most likely be better than the guys he's replaced.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Punk-101 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:19 pm

He's J.R. Crawford. Is that better, Roos?
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:35 pm

Rooscooter wrote:I know everyone is in full on "half full" mode right now but Jamal Crawford=Nick Young... :man3:

One is a near all star, consistent and plays the game with both his talent and his mind.... the other is very talented but not that cerebral.... The Market set the value of both of these guys and Young was available for a reason. If he was anywhere near Crawford's value he'd be pulling in 5 Million per on a 4 year deal right now for a contender.

I like Young's ability... not sold on his capacity to play within a system however.

As for his attitude. He's had issues with coaches and teammates in the past. He's been run for getting into it with fans and has gotten his share of taunting T's. Call is "swag" if you want.... it's not really part of what the Laker's have been about over the years. If he can control it and play his role he will be a tremendous help.... if not the he will still most likely be better than the guys he's replaced.



^^ Fair enough Roos. You're absolutely right, Nick Young is not as good as Jamal Crawford. For my point I just meant that he should play that kind of role for us - scorer off the bench from the wing spot.

At any rate, I think he's the kind of player in that regard that we've been looking to get for some time. But yes, the realism is he is not at the level of Crawford, agreed.
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Re: If Nick Young wasn't on the Lakers....

Postby TIME on Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:14 pm

Merging with Nick Young Discussion.
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