Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Jellincon on Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:55 pm

For starters, need to figure out the coaching issue. Please no more one track minded coaches. Get a guy who has an established system on offense and a defensive philosophy. From there you can start getting players that fit said coach's style.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby BuzzerBeater on Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:56 pm

Alcindor wrote:Resign Dwight.

Think long and hard on the coaching situation, this team needs to establish a culture again, a certain type of play and a certain type of players like we did with Phil and the tri or like Pop in San Antonio. I don't know if Jim is the visionary his dad was (ok he isn't) but hopefully he will let Mitch do the thinking.

Look at options for moving Pau, he's shown he's still a top center in this league and could probably be resigned for far less after next season, and he's a huge expiring anyways.

Resign Clark as long as he's cheap.

Get everyone healthy for next season.



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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby The Rock on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:01 pm

We gotta support Jim Buss...its not like Jerry was perfect either he didnt win a ring for 12 yrs. Hope he learns from his mistakes this year
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby ThizGuy83 on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:02 pm

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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby wolfpack87 on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:05 pm

1. FIre D'antoni, hire anyone that can figure out how to use 2 good bigs, and one of the top 10 greatest players of all time and coach a little defense. That shouldn't be difficult. Obviously Phil is probably a pipe dream at this point. Give me Nate McMillan or Jerry Sloan if we go former head coach, or Brian Shaw or Lester Conner if we go the assistant route. I'm doubting any good current NBA head coaches will leave their job to take ours. Maybe Thibs in Chicago since D-Rose is apparently mentally fragile as can be.

2. Re-sign Dwight Howard

3. Amnesty World Peace. If he opts out of his contract, then amnesty Steve Blake.

4. Current bench players: Re-sign Clark, Re-sign Morris, Re-sign Goudelock, Re-Sign Sacre.

5. Goodbye to: Duhon, Ebanks, Jamison, Meeks

6. Free agency: We need a shooter at the SF spot. Plain and simple. Kobe and Nash will create, the bigs will demand attention, we need a 3 that can hit 3s. My solution: Sign Dorrell Wright. He was in and out of the rotation in Philadelphia, he's an LA kid, I think he would LOVE to come to LA and be a starter. Could be had for the MLE. Also, a cheaper backup PG would be nice, assuming we can play Blake at the backup SG spot. The way he played late in the season for Dallas, I would be interested in seeing if we could get Mike James to sign for the league minimum.

7. Draft: Not much you can do with 1 second round pick. I would like to add some more perimeter scoring since we would have Gasol, Howard, Clark, Hill to man the paint area. I would look to draft Seth Curry, Tim Hardaway Jr. or possibly a stretch 4 like Kenny Kadji or Deshaun Thomas
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:09 pm

I've never been a fan of Dwight.... He's a physical talent who hasn't progressed much. If I were in the front office I'd take my time this summer. A max deal with Howard means we will not get a better player than him....not under this CBA. To me, Howard is not a leader on a championship team.

So... Where would that leave us?... The Ownership needs desperately a viable product as their TV contract has a sliding scale.... Howard will put butts in the seats and sell jerseys but he isn't leading this team to a new era of contention without a top 3 wing player and a team tailored to his very narrow skill set. I'd blow it all up and build and wait for the next opportunity.... But then again I'm not basing my standard of living on the team.....

WTS I think we try and trade Pau for pieces...... Nash may retire if he really has permanent nerve damage and we will probably either trade or amnesty MWP.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby The Rock on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:15 pm

^ again he may not be a leader of a championship team but hes definitely a No. 2 for a team that wants to win a title. Pau was 0-12. Got blown out left and right before coming to LA. Was in the lottery the year before. But that doesn't mean hes still not a great talent, we utlized the things he brought to the table to win a ring. He wasn't some dominant leader either but next to Kobe he made it work. We just need to pair up Dwight another superstar. The League is full of superteams or teams with multiple all stars. We gotta go that route
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby revgen on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:17 pm

Objective - We need to get younger. We need to form an identity. The latter and former are usually done through player changes and coaching changes. Here's my approach.

1) Coaching change - I'm open to it if it's a top tier coach like Phil, Pop, Sloan, Riley, or Adelman. Otherwise, forget it. 3rd coach in 3 years doesn't help build an identity unless that coach is among the elite. Bring in Nate McMillan to be what Mike Woodson was to D'Antoni in NY to help with the defense.

2) Bench - Dump Meeks and Duhon. Hire young backups at a cheap price. Glock will be fine if we can't get anything better. We need to pick up a young SF too to replace Ebanks. CDR looked good in last year's training camp. He's been MIA since Dallas waived him.

3) Pau - He has to go. He's not worth the salary he's being paid and he doesn't fit D'Antoni's system. Preferably it happens in a trade. Kobe won't like it, but it's gotta happen.

4) Nash - He's old, but I think he just had a fluke season with injuries, just like everybody else. Keep him.

5) Kobe - Amnesty isn't going to happen. And shouldn't happen.

6) MWP - I'm open to amnestying him if we can pick up a promising young SF for cheap or through a trade.

7) Blake - Is this past season going to be the 1 good season he ever plays for us? Should we trade him while his value is high? He's making a modest 4 million/yr, so I say give him another year.

8) Jamison - He's old too, but productive when he's in the right mix. He took a Vet Min discount last season. I don't see him signing up for that again. But with our payroll the way it is, I don't think we can afford what he wants unless he takes that discount for a 2nd term.

9) Dwight - Unless the Atlanta GM has a bigger magic wand than Mitch, he's staying here.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby odom1year on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:21 pm

1. Hire a new coach. To me, it's Brian Shaw.
2. Re-sign D12. Develop a team surrounding him.
3. Re-sign Pau with MIL - 8 millions contract.
4. Release MWP, Nash and Antwan.
5. Sign a defensive mind PG.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Weezy on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:24 pm

odom1year wrote:1. Hire a new coach. To me, it's Brian Shaw.
2. Re-sign D12. Develop a team surrounding him.
3. Re-sign Pau with MIL - 8 millions contract.
4. Release MWP, Nash and Antwan.
5. Sign a defensive mind PG.


Oh boy, where to start. You can't re-sign Pau, he's under contract for another year, 19 or 20 million. You can't release players, this isn't the NFL, MWP can be amnestied, Nash is under contract for 2 more seasons, Jamison is a free agent. You seriously know that little about this team?
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Chillbongo on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:25 pm

^ No amnesty Kobe? :man4:
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:42 pm

Unrestricted Free Agents we could have a chance at signing or figuring something out to get them.
I think most of these guys would fit well surrounding Dwight. obviously there's more but I thought these stood out when looking.

Josh Smith
Tony Allen
Nate Robinson
Daniel Gibson
Richard Jefferson
Lamar Odom
JJ Redick
Randy Foye
CJ Watson
David West
Martell Webster
Al Jefferson
Trevor Ariza
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby 432J on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:45 pm

Ariza3 wrote:Unrestricted Free Agents we could have a chance at signing or figuring soothing out to get them:

Josh Smith
Tony Allen
Nate Robinson
Daniel Gibson
Richard Jefferson
Lamar Odom
JJ Redick
Randy Foye
CJ Watson
David West
Martell Webster
Al Jefferson
Trevor Ariza

out of all those players, i'd try to sign allen and redick

allen is a great one on one defender and redick can hit the 3 which this team severely lacks
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Frank Dux on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:56 pm

First things first:

1. Resign Dwight and Clark
2. Amnesty Metta
3. Trade Pau for Bargani's contract, Terrence Ross, and Kyle Lowry
4. Hope that Nash retires(I love you Nash, but we need to get younger)
5. Hope you enjoy chinese food Devin "DUI" Ebanks
6. Peace out Morris, and Meeks.
7. Goudelock, Sacre, and Jamison are welcome at the end of the bench for the minimum
8. Note to FO: Roll the freaking dice by signing some "risky players". We saw so many punk-ish role players making huge impacts on contenders while the Lakers stood pat, and ran our starters into the ground. Barnes returning, and Delonte West could've been huge additions this season.
9. Keep D'antoni unless there's a sizable upgrade available.

The theme for this offseason is: Younger, Faster, Healthier.

Oh, and don't jump down my throat regarding the Andrea trade proposal!
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:58 pm

Hopefully what's next is a whole lotta pressure from TWC for Jim Buss to step aside and let grownups whose IQs are greater than their shoe sizes start calling the shots.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby trodgers on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:59 pm

1. Waive everyone not named Kobe.
2. Sign the 12 best players not named Kobe, for Vet Min.
3. Waive LeBron (after signing in step 2).
4. Rename the Kobes.
5. Hire Kobe as Coach
6. Watch Kobe all season.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby SK8 on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:00 pm

Get Kyrie Irving with Kobe, put Hill in starting 5, and get that bench loaded, hire REAL coach, and it's that simple....
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby odom1year on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:13 pm

trodgers wrote:1. Waive everyone not named Kobe.
2. Sign the 12 best players not named Kobe, for Vet Min.
3. Waive LeBron (after signing in step 2).
4. Rename the Kobes.
5. Hire Kobe as Coach
6. Watch Kobe all season.


Kobe will be very tired.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:25 pm

The Rock wrote:^ again he may not be a leader of a championship team but hes definitely a No. 2 for a team that wants to win a title. Pau was 0-12. Got blown out left and right before coming to LA. Was in the lottery the year before. But that doesn't mean hes still not a great talent, we utlized the things he brought to the table to win a ring. He wasn't some dominant leader either but next to Kobe he made it work. We just need to pair up Dwight another superstar. The League is full of superteams or teams with multiple all stars. We gotta go that route


He's probably the best front court player in a league where having the best wing players is more important. Under the previous CBA I'd keep him in a heartbeat because getting that top 3 wing player is very possible. In the reality of today's CBA it's remote IMHO. Howard will lock up 35% of the cap or so.... That means another top tier player will take another similar contract so that means you have fill in the other slots for next to nothing. It also means you have to go waaaaaay below the cap to even make that work at some point. It also means that this mythical top tier wing player is willing to walk away from a lot more money to join the lakers. Finally, it may be possible to start over quickly if we had been building from within like we were in the 90's.... Having Divac, Jones, Van Exel, Campbell to trade is a lot different than Ebanks, Morris and Sacre.

The new CBA was designed to thwart the super teams..... And I think it will unless there is something I'm missing completely here.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby dmaul on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:34 pm

I've got conflicting feelings regarding Howard. I would like him to resign but if he left I wouldn't be heartbroken either. I don't feel like he's the second coming of anything. No doubt he's a unique player but he's not a special once in a generation type of player like the Lakers have had with Kobe, Shaq, Magic, etc. Now if the Lakers had LeBron or Durant and they ditched us in free agency that would feel completely different.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Azndude2190 on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:34 pm

1.) Re-sign Dwight Howard
2.) Trade Pau Gasol for draft picks and/or a shooter
3.) Get rid of all the dead weight. I would keep: Kobe, Nash, Dwight, Hill, Clark, Jamison and Blake.

One thing is for certain: in the long run we need to get younger and free up cap space. We need DRAFT PICKS.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby 432J on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:39 pm

no way dwight leaves LA and ruins his legacy forever

i think he's quite aware of the damage his legacy would take and the amount of constant criticism he'd receive if he walked. wilt-came to LA and won a ring, kareem-came to LA and won a ring, shaq-came to LA and won a ring, dwight-came to LA and left after one season

he's supposed to be the next in line with all those other great lakers centers. no way he bails after just one failed season
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:42 pm

432J wrote:no way dwight leaves LA and ruins his legacy forever

i think he's quite aware of the damage his legacy would take and the amount of constant criticism he'd receive if he walked. wilt-came to LA and won a ring, kareem-came to LA and won a ring, shaq-came to LA and won a ring, dwight-came to LA and left after one season

he's supposed to be the next in line with all those other great lakers centers. no way he bails after just one failed season


All time greats..... And then Howard.... Not the same level of player unfortunately.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby khmrP on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:46 pm

Uncle Drew wrote:Get Kyrie Irving with Kobe, put Hill in starting 5, and get that bench loaded, hire REAL coach, and it's that simple....


how or why would this even be remotely possible? The love for pau is already ridiculous but this, wow talk bout video game fantasies.
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Re: Official: What is next for the Lakers?

Postby DarthRekal on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:53 pm

honestly.. let's say dwight doesnt re-sign.. what can we do with all that money?? and say we trade pau to get younger too???
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