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Would you re-sign Pau for ~7 million per?

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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:29 am

scissors wrote:Going back and reading the earlier pages of this thread brings back memories about how good Pau was. What the hell happened to this guy? How can someone just decline and play with no heart so fast? I just don't understand it. Knowing that he can get his 3rd championship ring with the same team should motivate him enough. If not that then the amount of money he is getting paid should motivate him. He truly has become the bottom of the barrel on this team.


Actually the answer is pretty simple ... some players are sastified with winning one or a couple times ... while the all time greats are always hungry for more ...

Most of Pau decline has to do with the mental approach of the game ... he isn't willing to make the extra effort or take the constant beating/ physical play in the paint anymore as he was in 09 and 2010 .... all of this obviously wear a player down physically ... this is when the " win at all costs " mentality does the job or not


Why do you think Pau looks like a beast in the Gold medal game ? because he wanted to win the Gold at all cost and was all in mentally .

That being said , all the minutes Pau has played these latest 5-6 years have speed up his decline too ... Summer 06,07,08, 09 , 2011 and 2012 ... VERY few NBA players would be able to maintain a high level of play after all this
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby charvin on Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:12 am

I agree. Some players, are just satisfied winning their first championship ring. Then, they lose all motivation to go for a second ring because perhaps, it doesn't seem to bring any extra motivational value.

On the other hand, you have players like Jordan and Bryant, who are absolutely determined to win at all costs and just hate losing in general. They are absolutely determined and become more motivated to win more rings as if their next championship ring was their first one.

wcsoldier81 wrote:
scissors wrote:Going back and reading the earlier pages of this thread brings back memories about how good Pau was. What the hell happened to this guy? How can someone just decline and play with no heart so fast? I just don't understand it. Knowing that he can get his 3rd championship ring with the same team should motivate him enough. If not that then the amount of money he is getting paid should motivate him. He truly has become the bottom of the barrel on this team.


Actually the answer is pretty simple ... some players are sastified with winning one or a couple times ... while the all time greats are always hungry for more ...

Most of Pau decline has to do with the mental approach of the game ... he isn't willing to make the extra effort or take the constant beating/ physical play in the paint anymore as he was in 09 and 2010 .... all of this obviously wear a player down physically ... this is when the " win at all costs " mentality does the job or not


Why do you think Pau looks like a beast in the Gold medal game ? because he wanted to win the Gold at all cost and was all in mentally .

That being said , all the minutes Pau has played these latest 5-6 years have speed up his decline too ... Summer 06,07,08, 09 , 2011 and 2012 ... VERY few NBA players would be able to maintain a high level of play after all this
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby Jellincon on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:28 am

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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby Weezy on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:49 am

Well I'm wide awake and I still don't care, I want him gone, not starting.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby D.B. Cooper on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:50 am

Stupid Tony, it better be to "showcase" this bum
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby therealdeal on Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:00 am

My dreams are shattered... I was hoping he'd have been traded by now. Whatever Mitch has in the works must be taking longer than I thought...

Maybe the trade involves Toronto and they want to see what they're getting first...

I'm grasping at straws.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby borri on Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:53 am

Sadly, I think the loss to MIA deterred any real thoughts of trading Pau. The FO probably thinks that the season is already lost in the sense of winning a chip, that trading Pau now won't be enough to take us over the hump because his value is way too low.

They'll wait til the offseason to unload him and his 20 mil expiring and get alot better offers.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby Armani on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:06 pm

borri wrote:
They'll wait til the offseason to unload him and his 20 mil expiring and get alot better offers.


That's probably it. I would prefer that anyway. Just take the better offer. We're not winning anything this year.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby Weezy on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:20 pm

Well, Pau scored a lot of points on a great shooting percentage, so that must mean he's still capable of being a star here right? Oh wait, there's that other side to the floor, where he grabbed 5 rebounds, had one block, and put up no resistance at the rim.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby ElginTheGreat on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:24 pm

Sigh. Just trade him.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:26 pm

Pau will be poppin' bottles tonight. He got his touches and his points.

Hope the bar he goes to has a revolving door, so he feels right at home.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby escobar8 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:30 pm

solid offensive game...but just awful play on other side...
he should realy come from the bench...he was outplayed again by clark...
no hustle and no heart...he scored basicly meaningless points...
if someone wants the defend him...just watch him standing alone in paint with hands down after missed deep 3 and fields easily grabing rebound over him...that play sums his whole season...
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby escobar8 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:31 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Pau will be poppin' bottles tonight. He got his touches and his points.

Hope the bar he goes to has a revolving door, so he feels right at home.


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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby karacha on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:32 pm

Don't trade Pau. He's back. Scored a lot of points. :jam2:
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:33 pm

[quote]Matt Moore@HPbasketballabout 11 minutes ago


Pau Gasol has been so horrible inside the paint today I think he needs to play shooting guard. Getting killed at both ends.


Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2IY9GnuO9

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Matt Moore@HPbasketballabout 11 minutes ago


What the hell is Pau doing? Why is he not putting a body on him? Wy is he boxing out with his fingers?




Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html ... 9a6I/quote]
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:44 pm

IMO, having him play closer to the basket on the offensive end today showed how effective he can still be when he's aggressive. As it stands when this team, he's just not what we need right now. We need more defensive minded players badly.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:03 pm

he needs to come off the bench. this game proved what he can do when dwight isnt in the paint with him.

clark needs to start with dwight and build the lead up and start the team off with solid defense. jamison and pau can come in and play bad but decent d for a bit and own the paint on O.

meeks needs to play too...its just unacceptable that duhon and morris get more minutes than him and literally do nothing...absolutely nothing. morris d is overrated and meeks can do the same imo while hitting 3's and being way more energized and aggressive. what happened to dantoni loving meeks and what he brings....sure cant be less than duhon or morris
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby TheOp on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:07 pm

OMG u guyz. hes just a scape goat!!!11 you see his amazing defense???

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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby Helljumper on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:14 pm

Even when he's at his best offensively, it's still not enough to help us find ways to consistently score and it's definitely not enough to counteract his poor defense. Pau's 25 points could have easily been re-distributed over three quality bench players (let's say D. Williams, Kirilenko, and Barea for example) but with better defense.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:27 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Pau will be poppin' bottles tonight. He got his touches and his points.

Hope the bar he goes to has a revolving door, so he feels right at home.

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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:05 pm

Don't care if Gasoft scores 100 ppg - his "spectator defense" will always guarantee the opponent scores 101.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby themasterphil on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:10 pm

50 p, 100p , 1000 p ....its the same, he will always be soft player without any hunger to win.....his time is past.....TRADE HIM NOW!!!!
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby abeer3 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:52 pm

he looked much more at home minus howard, but it doesn't translate to wins. hopefully, some team with a roster that can cover his defensive deficiencies was watching today and makes a good offer for him.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby JLaker17 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:05 pm

Should of moved him while we had the chance, waste of a season.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (p.270: Out 2 Games w/Concussion)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:26 pm

JLaker17 wrote:Should of moved him while we had the chance, waste of a season.


We did. Management was smart enough to move him when his value was high

Now it's at an all time low and no one wants him
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