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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Savory Griddles on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:46 am

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Pau Gasol says things would have been "different" had Phil Jackson coached the Lakers past two seasons. How? Gasol:" Where should I start?"
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Everyone is just sniping the FO right now. :man10:


Oh… Brother….. Pau is now trying to blame his complete lack of effort at times on the front office…. Will this guy ever look in the mirror? I am so done with his crap.

Phil wasn't saving last year…. Howard would be just as gone….. Nash would be just as done…..


I agree Phil wasn't saving last year, but I do not believe it's a forgone conclusion Howard bails if the FO commits to the coach he told them he wanted. It speaks as much of their commitment to him as it does to Phil. As for Nash, impossible to tell. Phil would have been running a different offense than Brown and Nash would not have been at that exact place at that exact time and wouldn't have collided with Lillard and not gotten the nerve damage. Would he have gotten hurt some other way? Probably. But it's with the injury he had that is causing all these problems, it was wrong place, wrong time.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:51 am

sister golden hair wrote:Kobe lost all leverage when he signed that contract. Even if he wanted to force his way to NY, they lack the assets (that LA would want) to allow any viable trade to go through. His contract is too big and somehow manages to hamstring both club and player.

The contract felt like a reactive panic move. Something of which this FO is making a habit. I don't blame Mitch. Mitch's M.O. through the years has been on of patience and cold calculation. I do think he's being a yes-man, and that is not serving his employer very well.

With respect to Kobe's contract, the notion that the Lakers had to show commitment to future FA stars by over-paying Kobe is an after-the-fact rationalization. Maybe that contract would be more palatable after Kobe showed he could stay healthy (and I'm a huuuge Kobe fan), but at the time it was sealed, it was simply a bonehead move. That's something that an organization like Cleveland would pull out of a desperate sense of institutional insecurity.

The Kobe contract, the MDA hire, the Rudy T. hire,. the Mike Brown hire, the pink-slipping employees during the playoffs -- one could go on. These decisions were not well thought out. They seemed impulsive and rash, more a reaction against the immediately preceding decision than anything else (how else to explain hiring a one-trick pony defensive 'specialist" coach, firing him 5 games into the season, then hiring his offensive-specialist analogue (who was a complete bust at his most recent HC gig)?

Bad decisions from the recent past are still crippling this organization. The biggest screw-ups in recent memory is the non-handling of the D12 fiasco. When has any organization done well when sticking to its guns on a journeyman coach at the risk of losing top-tier talent? Even if you doubt D12 is worth the trouble to keep, you could always trade him for assets that could be utilized in a much quicker rebuild. But somehow, the same organization who feels it needs to overpay older stars, thinks that young stars can be treated in a "take it or leave it" manner. That's institutional incoherence.

One bad decision, every now and then, can be absorbed. A series of them spells long-term disaster.

Ask Jerry Jones how that owner/director of player personnel position is working out with the Dallas Cowboys.


^^ Great post SGH. I too feel like Jim's decision making has been reactive and impulsive - especially when it's come to the coaching hires. He rushed the Mike Brown hire because he was worried that he would go to Golden State. That was reported in the LA Times.

I thought he would do some more diligence when it came to replacing Brown. It is has also been reported that he did not give Jerry Sloan a call, he didn't give Nate McMillan a call. Brown was fired on Thursday and he had D' Antoni as replacement by Sunday. We all know what happened with Phil. But let's remember please the ONLY other candidate that the Lakers talked to . . . wait for it . . . Mike FREAKING Dunleavy!! That's who Jim met with on Sunday before the hire. A 90 minute interview with Mike Dunleavy. Are you kidding?

That's not due diligence. That's ridiculous. And remember that interim coach Bernie Bickerstaff had them playing .800 ball at that time, so there was no reason to rush this in the manner they did. Yes, Jerry Buss was not doing well and that hastened things no doubt. But they could have interviewed a couple more capable candidates. D' Antoni obviously proved to be a godawful choice just as I knew he would be.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:58 am

Savory Griddles wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:
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Pau Gasol says things would have been "different" had Phil Jackson coached the Lakers past two seasons. How? Gasol:" Where should I start?"
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Everyone is just sniping the FO right now. :man10:


Oh… Brother….. Pau is now trying to blame his complete lack of effort at times on the front office…. Will this guy ever look in the mirror? I am so done with his crap.

Phil wasn't saving last year…. Howard would be just as gone….. Nash would be just as done…..


I agree Phil wasn't saving last year, but I do not believe it's a forgone conclusion Howard bails if the FO commits to the coach he told them he wanted. It speaks as much of their commitment to him as it does to Phil. As for Nash, impossible to tell. Phil would have been running a different offense than Brown and Nash would not have been at that exact place at that exact time and wouldn't have collided with Lillard and not gotten the nerve damage. Would he have gotten hurt some other way? Probably. But it's with the injury he had that is causing all these problems, it was wrong place, wrong time.


Yeah, I don't buy that Howard would have left if Phil were here last year. Not at all.

Also the outcome of last year could have been vastly different IMO if Phil were here for this reason. There's no way in HELL that Phil would've let Kobe go full Alpha Dog takeover mode, and no way in hell he would have let him play those kind of minutes on a bum ankle. Zero chance. If Kobe had not overdone it I think he would have had a much better chance of avoiding that achilles tear. To me the blame for that goes 50/50 with Kobe/D' Antoni. But he simply would not be playing those kind of dangerously high minutes, and certainly not while injured. Kobe overdid it. And part of why he was overdoing was that he didn't have a strong coach to keep him in check. I don't see how that can eve be debated.

Could he have still torn his achilles? Sure, that can happen. But I think the chances would have been minimized greatly if Phil had been in charge.

Skipping over Phil for D' Antoni effectively put the nail in the coffin for Howard leaving here.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:52 am

Well... I think it's very interesting that most of the same people who wanted Brown gone for trying the Princton offense with Nash think that Phil and the Tri solves that.... And everything else from halitosis to Putin.....

Howard was gone once he and Kobe hit heads and stated walking around the locker room showing reporters the box scores..... If Phil had stopped that we'd be in worse shape IMO as he wasn't leading us anywhere.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby unpossibl1 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:14 am

Lakerjones wrote:
Savory Griddles wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
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Pau Gasol says things would have been "different" had Phil Jackson coached the Lakers past two seasons. How? Gasol:" Where should I start?"
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Everyone is just sniping the FO right now. :man10:


Oh… Brother….. Pau is now trying to blame his complete lack of effort at times on the front office…. Will this guy ever look in the mirror? I am so done with his crap.

Phil wasn't saving last year…. Howard would be just as gone….. Nash would be just as done…..


I agree Phil wasn't saving last year, but I do not believe it's a forgone conclusion Howard bails if the FO commits to the coach he told them he wanted. It speaks as much of their commitment to him as it does to Phil. As for Nash, impossible to tell. Phil would have been running a different offense than Brown and Nash would not have been at that exact place at that exact time and wouldn't have collided with Lillard and not gotten the nerve damage. Would he have gotten hurt some other way? Probably. But it's with the injury he had that is causing all these problems, it was wrong place, wrong time.


Yeah, I don't buy that Howard would have left if Phil were here last year. Not at all.

Also the outcome of last year could have been vastly different IMO if Phil were here for this reason. There's no way in HELL that Phil would've let Kobe go full Alpha Dog takeover mode, and no way in hell he would have let him play those kind of minutes on a bum ankle. Zero chance. If Kobe had not overdone it I think he would have had a much better chance of avoiding that achilles tear. To me the blame for that goes 50/50 with Kobe/D' Antoni. But he simply would not be playing those kind of dangerously high minutes, and certainly not while injured. Kobe overdid it. And part of why he was overdoing was that he didn't have a strong coach to keep him in check. I don't see how that can eve be debated.

Could he have still torn his achilles? Sure, that can happen. But I think the chances would have been minimized greatly if Phil had been in charge.

Skipping over Phil for D' Antoni effectively put the nail in the coffin for Howard leaving here.


Agree with everything you said. For those saying that Howard wasn't leading us anywhere, that doesn't matter. What matters is that he was an ASSET, even on a max contract he would have positive trade value. With Phil around he probably stays, so not choosing Phil to coach the team was a mistake. They compounded that mistake by not trading Howard at the deadline last year when it was clear he wasn't staying. All of his comments were non-committal, you don't do that to the Lakers. Other teams sure, but this is the LAKERS. As a result of those mistake we lost a huge asset in Dwight and got nothing in return. That cannot happen under the new CBA, assets HAVE to be converted into other assets or future pieces, they cannot be allowed to walk away without bringing any return.

Now to top it all off Pau has said a few similar things about his own free agency. If he leaves this summer we will have lost two of the leagues best bigs (even though Pau's best days are behind him) for NOTHING. No picks, no promising young players, just a little more money off our cap. But who are we going to get to sign here if there is no one to play with aside from Kobe's farewell tour and broken down Na$h?

All of this because Jim and Jerry chose D'Antoni over Phil...and if you want to go back a bit further, all of this because of basketball reasons. The Lakers are far behind in the race to adapt to the new CBA and they better start catching up quick.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Savory Griddles on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:31 am

Rooscooter wrote:Well... I think it's very interesting that most of the same people who wanted Brown gone for trying the Princton offense with Nash think that Phil and the Tri solves that.... And everything else from halitosis to Putin.....

Howard was gone once he and Kobe hit heads and stated walking around the locker room showing reporters the box scores..... If Phil had stopped that we'd be in worse shape IMO as he wasn't leading us anywhere.


Yeah, but the triangle has a proven track record with King Triangle running it (Phil). Also, several of those players were well versed in the tri and Nash is very smart and could have picked it up. Howard would have been fine as well since center is the least difficult position to learn in the tri. I also don't think Kobe goes rogue with Phil in command and Howard doesn't feel like he's being marginalized to that extent.

Once again, I'm not of the belief that D12 staying was a slam dunk with Phil as coach, but I don't think a lot of the problems that started last season would have been present. I also do not think Phil coaching last year's team makes their 7 seed a 2 seed either. I just think the team has a better feel and more stable feel. I think Howard is more inclined to stay and the entire team looks better as a whole from the outside.

All that being said, I was not advocating Phil last season because like Roo said, at some point we have to move on and start building for the future. D'Antoni was a bad choice though. I look back at the Brown hire over Rick Adelman as where the wheels started to come off. That was Jimmy overruling Mitch.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:35 am

Howard was done the day he butted heads with Kobe and started showing the box scores to the press….. Keeping him here would have been worse than letting him go because he would have pitched a fit unless he went to the exact team he wanted to with the funnest players……

It's my opinion that Phil would have accelerated his decision….. not changed it. Phil's mind games with the weak minded don't work. The second he was called out in the press by Phil (his go to tactic) he'd have given up. He said he wanted Phil because he thought it was the right thing to do because he was under pressure and wanted it shifted away as fast as possible…..
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Savory Griddles on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:40 am

Rooscooter wrote:Howard was done the day he butted heads with Kobe and started showing the box scores to the press….. Keeping him here would have been worse than letting him go because he would have pitched a fit unless he went to the exact team he wanted to with the funnest players……

It's my opinion that Phil would have accelerated his decision….. not changed it. Phil's mind games with the weak minded don't work. The second he was called out in the press by Phil (his go to tactic) he'd have given up. He said he wanted Phil because he thought it was the right thing to do because he was under pressure and wanted it shifted away as fast as possible…..


It's possible, you're right. But I the second we chose D'Antoni it was signed, sealed and delivered. I feel Phil at least gave us a shot. But like I said, I was with you. At the time, I didn't want Phil either. I wanted to move on, but if the choices were Phil and D'Antoni, I take Phil. D'Antoni is just Mike Brown in reverse.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:44 am

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Rooscooter wrote:Well... I think it's very interesting that most of the same people who wanted Brown gone for trying the Princton offense with Nash think that Phil and the Tri solves that.... And everything else from halitosis to Putin.....

Howard was gone once he and Kobe hit heads and stated walking around the locker room showing reporters the box scores..... If Phil had stopped that we'd be in worse shape IMO as he wasn't leading us anywhere.


Yeah, but the triangle has a proven track record with King Triangle running it (Phil). Also, several of those players were well versed in the tri and Nash is very smart and could have picked it up. Howard would have been fine as well since center is the least difficult position to learn in the tri. I also don't think Kobe goes rogue with Phil in command and Howard doesn't feel like he's being marginalized to that extent.

Once again, I'm not of the belief that D12 staying was a slam dunk with Phil as coach, but I don't think a lot of the problems that started last season would have been present. I also do not think Phil coaching last year's team makes their 7 seed a 2 seed either. I just think the team has a better feel and more stable feel. I think Howard is more inclined to stay and the entire team looks better as a whole from the outside.

All that being said, I was not advocating Phil last season because like Roo said, at some point we have to move on and start building for the future. D'Antoni was a bad choice though. I look back at the Brown hire over Rick Adelman as where the wheels started to come off. That was Jimmy overruling Mitch.


Tex is 92….. or are you talking about Phil? :man1:

To be accurate…. the Triangle has never won a championship without Kobe or Michael….. and even then there were losses. Nash in the Triangle would have been a mess. I'm sure Nash's presence and the promises made to him are some of the reasons we didn't get Phil again. Over the years Phil had some not so kind words for MDA/Nash at that group. Not sure Nash wanted anything to do with it in the first person.

I don't see the Triangle making Howard a high post facilitator or Nash productive off the ball.

As for the team stability issue. I'm not sure how a 2 year contract (rumored to what was offered) does anything to give the Laker's stability. It just delays the inevitable doesn't it? Howard's going to sign a 5 year deal and not walk to Houston because of that? If we had traded Kobe or if he had retired after the injury would be a better way to have kept him IMO. I don't think he was worried about the coach one bit.

MDA is an idiot of the first degree….. he needs to go but I think the ones who focus on that area missing the fact that we are in the aftershock of the Phil/Mitch era. What we did to borrow/cheat/steal to remain relevant for 15 years had to come to an end. When it did it's left us with a pretty big hole to dig out of. The coach just doesn't matter until we get some personnel in here to actually compete again.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:44 am

Savory Griddles wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Well... I think it's very interesting that most of the same people who wanted Brown gone for trying the Princton offense with Nash think that Phil and the Tri solves that.... And everything else from halitosis to Putin.....

Howard was gone once he and Kobe hit heads and stated walking around the locker room showing reporters the box scores..... If Phil had stopped that we'd be in worse shape IMO as he wasn't leading us anywhere.


Yeah, but the triangle has a proven track record with King Triangle running it (Phil). Also, several of those players were well versed in the tri and Nash is very smart and could have picked it up. Howard would have been fine as well since center is the least difficult position to learn in the tri. I also don't think Kobe goes rogue with Phil in command and Howard doesn't feel like he's being marginalized to that extent.

Once again, I'm not of the belief that D12 staying was a slam dunk with Phil as coach, but I don't think a lot of the problems that started last season would have been present. I also do not think Phil coaching last year's team makes their 7 seed a 2 seed either. I just think the team has a better feel and more stable feel. I think Howard is more inclined to stay and the entire team looks better as a whole from the outside.

All that being said, I was not advocating Phil last season because like Roo said, at some point we have to move on and start building for the future. D'Antoni was a bad choice though. I look back at the Brown hire over Rick Adelman as where the wheels started to come off. That was Jimmy overruling Mitch.


Tex is 92….. or are you talking about Phil? :man1:

To be accurate…. the Triangle has never won a championship without Kobe or Michael….. and even then there were losses. Nash in the Triangle would have been a mess. I'm sure Nash's presence and the promises made to him are some of the reasons we didn't get Phil again. Over the years Phil had some not so kind words for MDA/Nash and that group. Not sure Nash wanted anything to do with it in the first person.

I don't see the Triangle making Howard a high post facilitator or Nash productive off the ball.

As for the team stability issue. I'm not sure how a 2 year contract (rumored to what was offered) does anything to give the Laker's stability. It just delays the inevitable doesn't it? Howard's going to sign a 5 year deal and not walk to Houston because of that? If we had traded Kobe or if he had retired after the injury would be a better way to have kept him IMO. I don't think he was worried about the coach one bit.

MDA is an idiot of the first degree….. he needs to go but I think the ones who focus on that area missing the fact that we are in the aftershock of the Phil/Mitch era. What we did to borrow/cheat/steal to remain relevant for 15 years had to come to an end. When it did it's left us with a pretty big hole to dig out of. The coach just doesn't matter until we get some personnel in here to actually compete again.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby LakersN4 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:17 am

Rooscooter wrote:
Savory Griddles wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Well... I think it's very interesting that most of the same people who wanted Brown gone for trying the Princton offense with Nash think that Phil and the Tri solves that.... And everything else from halitosis to Putin.....

Howard was gone once he and Kobe hit heads and stated walking around the locker room showing reporters the box scores..... If Phil had stopped that we'd be in worse shape IMO as he wasn't leading us anywhere.


Yeah, but the triangle has a proven track record with King Triangle running it (Phil). Also, several of those players were well versed in the tri and Nash is very smart and could have picked it up. Howard would have been fine as well since center is the least difficult position to learn in the tri. I also don't think Kobe goes rogue with Phil in command and Howard doesn't feel like he's being marginalized to that extent.

Once again, I'm not of the belief that D12 staying was a slam dunk with Phil as coach, but I don't think a lot of the problems that started last season would have been present. I also do not think Phil coaching last year's team makes their 7 seed a 2 seed either. I just think the team has a better feel and more stable feel. I think Howard is more inclined to stay and the entire team looks better as a whole from the outside.

All that being said, I was not advocating Phil last season because like Roo said, at some point we have to move on and start building for the future. D'Antoni was a bad choice though. I look back at the Brown hire over Rick Adelman as where the wheels started to come off. That was Jimmy overruling Mitch.


Tex is 92….. or are you talking about Phil? :man1:

To be accurate…. the Triangle has never won a championship without Kobe or Michael….. and even then there were losses. Nash in the Triangle would have been a mess. I'm sure Nash's presence and the promises made to him are some of the reasons we didn't get Phil again. Over the years Phil had some not so kind words for MDA/Nash and that group. Not sure Nash wanted anything to do with it in the first person.

I don't see the Triangle making Howard a high post facilitator or Nash productive off the ball.

As for the team stability issue. I'm not sure how a 2 year contract (rumored to what was offered) does anything to give the Laker's stability. It just delays the inevitable doesn't it? Howard's going to sign a 5 year deal and not walk to Houston because of that? If we had traded Kobe or if he had retired after the injury would be a better way to have kept him IMO. I don't think he was worried about the coach one bit.

MDA is an idiot of the first degree….. he needs to go but I think the ones who focus on that area missing the fact that we are in the aftershock of the Phil/Mitch era. What we did to borrow/cheat/steal to remain relevant for 15 years had to come to an end. When it did it's left us with a pretty big hole to dig out of. The coach just doesn't matter until we get some personnel in here to actually compete again.

Have to disagree with some of these points Roo.. I'm not sure Phil could have done anything for this seasons roster, but he would have helped greatly in recruiting Melo or Monroe, & then Love in '15, & he would have also done a much better job with last seasons roster.

Down the stretch when we went something like 28-12 to make the playoffs, we did it after Kobe called the players only meeting & scrapped D'antoni's system & played to their strengths.. From that point on Kobe was handling the ball, Nash was spotting up for 3's (the 1 thing he's really good at still), Pau was facilitating in the high post, Dwight was in the low post.. Sounds alot like how those players would be used in the triangle doesn't it? & we were winning games.

The difference of course being that the guy Dwight would have respected enough to modify his game to help the team wasn't the 1 calling the shots, his teammate that he couldn't wait to get away from was.. If Phil was there I think we have Dwight buying in 100% believing Phil will make him as great as he can possibly be, & we all know how important players buying in to the system can be, especially for a mental midget like Dwight.

Would we have won a championship with that team? I think that's impossible to say.. But I definitely don't think Kobe would have had the same injury.. Kobe's minutes would have been managed better because we wouldn't have had such a bad record that he needed to play 40+ minutes every game for us to make the playoffs.

Nash would have probably still gotten hurt because he gets hurt getting out of bed, but that wouldn't have mattered nearly as much because PG's are nothing more than spot up shooters that play defense in the triangle.

Would Dwight have left after a season improving his game under the ultimate coach of great players & manager of egos? Highly unlikely.. In the grand scheme Dwight leaving might work out for the best because I don't think you win a title with him as your best player unless you draft him & spend his entire career finding the right mix of role players like Orlando did. He still would have been a great trade asset..

But the Kobe injury is the worst thing to happen to this franchise in a long time.. If he doesn't return to form next season, not having a coach that had the guts to manage Kobe's minutes properly might have turned our usual quick reload into 3 painful seasons of Kobe not being Kobe followed by who knows how many seasons of just flat out not having a franchise player to even build around.
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Postby angrypuppy on Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:18 am

Nice post, LakersN4.

Phil is an outstanding salesman in that he gets players to buy into his vision on and off the court. He also has an incredible track record which would have somewhat compensated for the lack of a talented young star on the roster. If you pair the Lakers image, location with Phil's salesmanship and credentials, you keep Dwight. If you pair the Lakers image with Jimmy's naive and inept presentation that featured the three people Dwight had problems with, you make a compelling case for Dwight to leave.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:10 am

Pau is done for a while ... Phil or not ... the only way he could have gone back near his 08-10 self was by losing some weight ... as Duncan did ... overall he just lost his edge and is fine with the two titles he won ...

Dwight was gone as soon as Kobe made it clear it was his team until he retires ... anyways almost everybody was fine with the fact Coward left on this board ... unless it serves the purpose of bashing MDA/FO and praising Phil ... double standard here .
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Postby Doc Brown on Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:38 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Dwight was gone as soon as Kobe made it clear it was his team until he retires ... anyways almost everybody was fine with the fact Coward left on this board ... unless it serves the purpose of bashing MDA/FO and praising Phil ... double standard here .


Truth. And to add to that, Dwight wanted Kobe to be amnestied or put a muzzle on himself during his "STAY meeting" with the Lakers.
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He was nauseous and dizzy during the game, got IV fluids, hmmm, they better screen that head of his just to be safe.
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:35 pm

^ damn I didn't think it was that bad and when I say bad I mean just having to go to the hospital for precautionary reasons says its not just the common flu or high temperature.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby bystander on Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:46 am

I heard, and I thought this time was funny, that the dizziness and nauseous might be because he's pregnant.

No but, now really, what else has to happens to the Lakers players this year ? Pau got 3 litres of fluid in the Staples before taking him to the hospital. It was food poisoning by the way, in case anyone wonders.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Savory Griddles on Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:59 am

bystander wrote:I heard, and I thought this time was funny, that the dizziness and nauseous might be because he's pregnant.

No but, now really, what else has to happens to the Lakers players this year ? Pau got 3 litres of fluid in the Staples before taking him to the hospital. It was food poisoning by the way, in case anyone wonders.


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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:39 pm

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Pau Gasol has been released from the hospital. Will see an ear, nose and throat doc tomorrow after suffering vertigo symptoms.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

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Pau Gasol has been released from the hospital. Will see an ear, nose and throat doc tomorrow after suffering vertigo symptoms.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Basketball Fan on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:37 pm

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... o-vertigo/

Pau Gasol to miss at least two more games due to Vertigo

Pau Gasol never came out of the locker room for the second half of the Lakers win Sunday over the Magic, then took three IV bags of fluid and spent the night in the hospital.

The official diagnosis was vertigo, and it kept Gasol out of the Lakers beat down of the Knicks on Tuesday night.

It’s going to keep him out longer, as well.


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Kevin Ding of Bleacher Report said this on the PBT Podcast back before Christmas and I’ve heard it from other sources since — there is pretty much no chance Gasol is back with the Lakers next season. Despite what Kobe Bryant may want. Both sides are ready to move on and unless the Lakers make a coaching change (very possible) and the new coach lobbies Gasol hard to stay (less likely) and the Lakers offer a better, longer contract than any other team (not likely at all) Gasol will move on.

And likely play much better for another team in another system, one that plays to his strengths.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Punk-101 on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:41 pm

I really hope the Lakers show Pau the same loyalty they showed Kobe by giving him a better and longer contract than all other teams. I'm willing to give him ONE more chance. A system that better fits him will bring back the old Pau. /sarcasm :man12:
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby therealdeal on Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:06 am

His stock is plummeting! Let's bring him back for a ton of money over two years!
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:40 am

Is his tummy all better?
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Re: Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Postby Lakerjones on Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:51 am

Rooscooter wrote:Is his tummy all better?


In all seriousness, vertigo will knock you the hell out. Most likely it's viral. If it is it's his inner ear and it is brutal in terms of knocking you on your butt. You puke because the world around you is spinning and you're incredibly nauseous. It sucks. If viral it will take thirty days to run its course. He may come back and try to play before that if it subsides.
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