LakersN4 wrote:There's just as little of a chance that the T'wolves decide what we have to offer is the best they can get for Monroe as there is of us signing him without giving anything up.. So you're saying sign a player to a max deal on the off chance that maybe he'll be the best offer Min gets for Love? I don't follow the logic there..
No you don't.
I'm saying in a year we SIGN Love by trading Monroe away to a team that wants a 25 year old Center putting up elite numbers. That way we clear money to sign him as a free agent outright. With Monroe off the books for cheaper contract returns, we'd have enough money to sign Love.
LakersN4 wrote:Also remember that Monroe is looked at as a good building block by many teams because he's still on his rookie contract.. Sure what team wouldn't take a young big putting up 15/9 on his rookie deal? As soon as we offer him that max contract, he either steps up & becomes a 20-10 big or gets labeled as overpaid & has negative value on the trade market..
Here's some other names getting paid near max money as big men:
Al Horford (12 Million): 18.6 points/ 8.4 rebounds/ 2.4 assists/ 1.5 blocks
Brook Lopez (14.6 Million): 20.6 points/ 6.0 rebounds/ 0.9 assists/ 1.8 blocks
Joakim Noah (11.1 Million): 12.6 points/11.3 rebounds/ 5.4 assists/ 1.5 blocks
Javale McGee (10.75 Million): 7 points/ 3.4 rebounds/ 1.4 blocks
Josh Smith (13.5 Million): 16.4 points/ 6.8 rebounds/ 3.3 assists/ 1.4 blocks
Roy Hibbert (14.2 Million): 10.8 points/ 6.6 rebounds/ 1.1 assists/ 2.2 blocks
DeAndre Jordan (10.9 Million): 10.4 points/ 13.6 rebounds/ 0.9 assists/ 2.5 blocks
Marc Gasol (14.86 Million): 14.6 points/7.2 rebounds/ 3.6 assists/ 1.3 bocks
Nikola Pekovic (12.1 Million): 17.4 points/ 8.7 rebounds/ 0.9 assists/ 0.4 blocks
Serge Ibaka (12.35 Million): 15.1 points/ 8.8 rebounds/ 1.0 assists/ 2.7 blocks
There's a few more. Some that have jumped up into the 20/10-ish category like David Lee and Al Jefferson. Then there's others like Derrick Favors and Nene and Kris Humphries who haven't. But the point is that Monroe puts up comparable numbers to those guys and would be easily movable like Nene and Humphries were.
LakersN4 wrote:The Bucks could have had teams lining up to trade for him on his rookie deal.. Now that he got an extension & had a bad season, they couldn't get value from anyone for him on the trade market & the new contract he got isn't even the max..
Actually they could still move him if they really wanted to. A young shot blocker? I mean the return wouldn't be great, but we wouldn't be looking for a great return in MY scenario anyway. We'd be looking for probably a pick and some cap relief to clear space to sign Love. That's assuming Love demands the max from us.
LakersN4 wrote:They would have to add a pick or another valuable piece just to get someone to take on his contract..
I disagree. They'd have to just adjust their expectations on the return until he gets back to form. But he's got some pretty major character issues going on right now. Monroe does not.
LakersN4 wrote:That's the same boat we'd be in with Monroe except he'd have a 13.7M max contract to live up to instead of the 4/44 Sanders got. Do you honestly think anyone is giving up value for a 15/9 big with subpar D on a max contract? We would be stuck with him for the life of the contract unless he improved dramatically.
Boston traded for Kris Humphries. Washington traded for Nene. Phoenix traded for Okafor. Brook Lopez is constantly on the block.
Of course someone would take him. Again, just because you don't like him doesn't mean he's bad. Trodgers just showed you he puts up elite numbers at the age of 23. Do YOU seriously think that most teams WOULDN'T want him?