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Would you re-sign Pau for ~7 million per?

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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby nolQQkpass on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:06 pm

always disappear in big games.. got somany excuses for his production.. cant wait toamesty him..or trade him for scola straight up
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:07 pm

Rusty should be his new Nickname....
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby noobiew on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:13 pm

Earl Clark was given us energy, defense, offense, rebounds, youth, spacing and hustle that the starting lineup lacking, and more importantly he is a better fit and played well with our starters. I am all for Pau coming off the bench !

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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby The Rock on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:18 pm

He's declining fast. Hes shooting a Career low 69% from the free throw line, hes shot 60% from the free throw line in January. Enough said

Just bring him off the bench
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:21 pm

Statue of Liberty at the free throw line extended. Couldn't be any easier to guard on offense, just put your hand up and he's out of the play.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:22 pm

To be honest I feel so bad seeing him like this. I really enjoyed seeing him in the back to back run.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby SpencerHarrison on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:23 pm

We should never see Pau and Dwight on the floor at the same time.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Vasashi17 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:04 pm

Dude needs to shut it down. Just way too much going on down there and he's trying to favor certain sides to ease the pain and that will just lead to further injuries.

Its a shame that its coming to an end and in such dramatic fashion...but if used properly, he's still an elite big guy (see Olympics).

Even though he's an expiring, its going to be tough moving that much money especially during these stricter CBA times...but LA has to get younger and his contract is the best way of doing it.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Ariza3 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:11 pm

dont think he'll get better. this is what he is now. and having him start next to dwight only makes the defense worse, the offense worse, and makes dwight more crammed in the paint.

its too easy to defend pau...you dont even have to on midrange bc he prob wont even shoot it. every trip down its 5v4 in favor of the other team.

earl starting wasnt always great but its was showing a lot of chemistry and the team was improving fast as dwight was getting healthier. at least clark could defend 3's and 4's so him and metta could switch on screens and thus the defense was better. he can rebound and actually made good decisions with the ball for the most part with either making the right pass or shooting the shot he should in rhythm of the offense. not to mention he ran the floor well, finished well, and could actually attack and dunk in the lane via nash/kobe assists. when him and jamison were on the floor together is was a lot of length and shooting/energy.

pau literally is doing nothing in the starting lineup. the comeback tonight was without him. i like pau but hes gone next season anyways so just play him off the bench. i think hed be more dangerous as backup center. clark/jamison/metta at the 4 next to dwight is waaay better than pau.

pau wont be pau ever again for the lakers. only for spain will he ever show the same heart. sucks but its true...that was this summer and he never played one game this season with the same heart and energy
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:19 pm

His return in the starting 5 is probably going to cost us a playoffs spot

we had developed a "decent" chemistry while he was out which is now out of the window .

You're just done when EACH of your 3 backups have outhustled/outplayed you during the season .
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Tobias Funke on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:25 pm

Just bring him off the bench with his No. 1 duty being Dwight's backup and then give him minutes at PF depending on how he's playing compared to Clark/MWP/Jamison.

The decision to throw him out there as a starter was a head scratcher.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:26 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:His return in the starting 5 is probably going to cost us a playoffs spot

we had developed a "decent" chemistry while he was out which is now out of the window .

You're just done when EACH of your 3 backups have outhustled/outplayed you during the season .


This is what boggles my mind. We had developed a winning formula & momentum going into the PO's. Then all of a sudden Pau is ready to comeback and MDA inserts him back into the starting lineup. I did not understand that. He would have best been used coming off the bench and easing him back into playing condition. I know Earl wasn't producing at the rate he was back in January; nevertheless, I thought MDA's move here was a head scratcher to say the least.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Center Court on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:26 pm

As been said tme and time again, Pau has zero place on this team as structured.

At C without Dwight, he'd be playing better. But next to Dwight, he's just a horrid fit. I hope he goes back tot he bench and is soley used as backup C and spot mins at the 4.

Once we know Dwight going to resign, we need to trade him for some quality depth. A adequate starting 4 (ability to stretch) and a back up SF or PG.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:32 pm

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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Finwë on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:41 pm

MDA was still reluctant to start him when he was playing better; now he's coming off an injury, he's out of shape and out of sync with the rest of the team, which was winning btw, and NOW he starts him?
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:48 pm

Center Court wrote:As been said tme and time again, Pau has zero place on this team as structured.

At C without Dwight, he'd be playing better. But next to Dwight, he's just a horrid fit. I hope he goes back tot he bench and is soley used as backup C and spot mins at the 4.

Once we know Dwight going to resign, we need to trade him for some quality depth. A adequate starting 4 (ability to stretch) and a back up SF or PG.


As I said before he returned , he should only play the 13 min D12 isn't on the floor ... he can't play the 4 , simple as that ... we lost a good amount of games by continually trying to fit him in the system
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby GoldenKnight on Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:50 am

We need to keep starting earl clark, we need his youth, hustle, defense, shooting, & we need Pau off the bench cause all he does is just stand out there. He really is terrible injury or not he needs to be benched ASAP
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby borri on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:05 am

Tobias Funke wrote:Just bring him off the bench with his No. 1 duty being Dwight's backup and then give him minutes at PF depending on how he's playing compared to Clark/MWP/Jamison.

The decision to throw him out there as a starter was a head scratcher.


It wasn't a head scratcher for me. This is Antoni.

You can't shoot, you can't play.

See....J.Hill ride the pine after Antoni took over for Bernie. Pretty soon Earl will be phased out. Who cares about defense?
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby Weezy on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:53 am

He looks kinda lost out there again IMO. Before he got injured he had found a role, now he's trying to fit back into a team that was doing really well without him, where pretty much everyone had found their roles. Clark leaves the starting lineup, out of shape, out of rhythm, lost Pau takes his place and it's messy right now. I'm not sure if Pau should be staring or not, but we sure seemed to look better when he was not, I'm not sure there's time to play back into shape and make an impact on the team, he looks really, really far away from what we need him to be at the moment.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby The Rock on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:19 am

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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby abeer3 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:40 am

pau's loss of quickness means he really needs to be a full-time center. the lakers need a full-time pf. hopefully, they can fix this via trade in the offseason. for now, he needs to be playing 15mpg at backup center.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby John3:16 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:45 am

His shooting is off, but his defense is in regular form, which is not a good thing for us. Layup line out there when he's playing without Howard.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby gcclaker on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:52 am

abeer3 wrote:pau's loss of quickness means he really needs to be a full-time center. the lakers need a full-time pf. hopefully, they can fix this via trade in the offseason. for now, he needs to be playing 15mpg at backup center.

Age...attrition from too many games...slow recuperation...it is all coming to a head for Gasol. Part of life as an athlete. The 15 minute limit sounds just about right but I don't think his ego can handle what he will view as a demotion.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby pound4pound1 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:16 am

even a gassed Clark is a better fit than Gasol


it's time for Pau to embrace the bench..we can't cater to his demands if we're gonna continue to lose games
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Re: Pau Discussion: Rusty

Postby abeer3 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:07 am

well, the other thing to consider is his trade value. putting him in positions to succeed is important on more than one front. if the lakers plan to dump him this summer, a guy who can score in the post and serve as a second option offensively in general is going to sell much better than...whatever it is we're seeing now.

imo, using him only at center and for fewer minutes, while making him upset, is the lakers' best chance of salvaging his value for the long and short term.
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